Pd-list June 2021

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[PD-announce] ELSE 1.0-0beta41 with Live Electronics Tutorial has been updated and is out.
by Alexandre Torres Porres 09 Jun '21

09 Jun '21

Hi there, the highlight in this update is that I'm finally releasing my preset management system for Pd as part of the ELSE library, it's called [presets]. It is an abstraction based on [savestate], [text] and [else/retrieve]. It communicates to receive symbols to get information from what's connected to them and also send the information. It has morphing and interpolation features and can also work with abstractions. I still have other ideas in my head, maybe even as a different/second object. Let's see, anyway, just note this object is still experimental, beware, things might change... I also wanna test it more thoroughly as it might have some bugs. Please tell me what you think of it and if you have some ideas on what else it could do, or maybe do something it does differently. But I'm really proud of what I designed here. It feels powerful and easy to use. I'm releasing many updates frequently, you may want to check the last releases too for the changelog. See https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/ for all releases, https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v1.0-beta41 for the current release. You can get the latest release directly from 'deken' cheers _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Patch2Svg exports controlled in a pd patch
by boscomac 09 Jun '21

09 Jun '21

Hi List, I recently discovered this Patch2Svg add-on. It works perfectly (mac os mojave, Pd 0.50-2). Working with data structures, I generate many serial drawings that I export to Svg. Basically, I export my Pd-data sub-patch which contains the graphical display only. I would like to know if there is a way to control and serialize this export operation directly in the Pd patch? Something like [write $1.svg( message, as it can be done with an array, audio recording, txt file, etc. Thank you in advance. Boscomac

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Re: [PD] UDP server with Pd
by Dan Wilcox 08 Jun '21

08 Jun '21

With the Pd net object overhaul, pd is using sendto with UDP as suggested by Christof as well, I believe. I agree that it would be nice to change the "connect" metaphor with UDP and [netsend -u]. Maybe one approach is to add another message such as your "to" which only works for UDP while retaining current "connect" functionality to not break patches. > On Jun 7, 2021, at 11:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 23:00:21 +0200 > From: Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > To: Martin Peach <chakekatzil(a)gmail.com <mailto:chakekatzil@gmail.com>>, Pd-List > <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] UDP server with Pd > Message-ID: <df5de976-556c-2a67-01f5-0c95d3adc92f(a)christofressi.com <mailto:df5de976-556c-2a67-01f5-0c95d3adc92f@christofressi.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Great to hear! > > On 07.06.2021 22:57, Martin Peach wrote: >> So I changed it to use sendto and it works a lot better. It receives >> from multiple clients while sending to any one. >> I added a [to ( message to set the destination, and removed the >> [connect( and [disconnect{ methods. >> Thanks Christof for the critique!. >> >> Martin -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?
by Dan Wilcox 08 Jun '21

08 Jun '21

There is no earplug~ 0.3.0 package on deken for macOS yet. You can blame me as I have so far been too lazy to carve out time to learn to package and distribute for deken. So far I just ask if other people can do it... :) > On Jun 8, 2021, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 10:56:20 +0200 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at <mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at>> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] Binaural w32? > Message-ID: <1eb87617-397d-644c-59e7-adbf6b0b8593(a)iem.at <mailto:1eb87617-397d-644c-59e7-adbf6b0b8593@iem.at>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > On 6/7/21 20:03, Jo?o Pais wrote: >> if the only difference is the darwin file, would it be possible to send >> it here? (someone I know wanted to try it, but he can't learn how to >> install/try out externals) > > wow. i thought it is much easier for people to install things via deken > than to manually download and extract (here comes the tricky part:) to > the proper directory. > obviously this is not always the case. > > btw, the latest and greatest deken-plugin (available via deken) allows > you to download deken-packages or get the URL to download it via some > other tools, which should make it simple to manually distribute the > zip-file if deken doesn't work for you for whatever reasons. (obviously > this only works if there *is* a deken-package) > > gmdsr > IOhannes -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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For those who like inspiring technical musicking talks
by bbob 08 Jun '21

08 Jun '21

Pierre, You mention that the PD version of FCM is "in progress", but there is a download on the site. Is that a beta version, or what is it's status? Looking forward to giving it a spin! b ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Pierre Alexandre Tremblay <tremblap(a)gmail.com> To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at Cc: Bcc: Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 19:36:24 +0100 Subject: [PD] For those who like inspiring technical musicking talks Dear all The Fluid Corpus Manipulation (www.flucoma.org) project is the radar of some of you, because it keeps cropping up once in a while. To make a long story short, we have various machine listening and learning tools to help tackle programmatically sound bank mining in Max and SuperCollider (and Pd in progress) on MacOS, Windows and Linux with all the code open source... As part of the project design, we commissioned works to get first users feedback on interface decisions and directions and many other things. You can see who was on the first cohort here ( https://www.flucoma.org/commissions/)) Now, in early July we have 8 more pieces coming. We asked all composers to tell us how they (ab)used the tools. You can follow the saga [here]( https://discourse.flucoma.org/t/video-presentation-by-the-artists-second-se…) and I'll post one per week, which leads us to the gigs. This week, Hans Tutschku explains his approach to polyphonic piano processing, informed by 30 years of practice. I hope you enjoy! p

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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?
by Dan Wilcox 08 Jun '21

08 Jun '21

Nothing too major. We haven't made a changelog yet but the changes in the current main branch form the last 0.2.1 tag (2013) are: * update to build via pd-lib-builder * loading the dataset txt file is now optional (needs double-checking) * fixed hang when dataset file is not loadable * post header only once on load and include version * avoid crashes by making sure that the "dsp" method cannot be called from the patch Some future optimizations in the pipeline are: https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/pulls <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/pulls> I will try to add a changelog and new stable 0.2.2 tag tonight. You could then bug a Windows dev to make a build for deken... When we review the other optimizations, they would go into a 0.3.0 version. > On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:56 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 13:33:11 +0100 > From: Jo?o Pais <jmmmpais(a)gmail.com <mailto:jmmmpais@gmail.com>> > Cc: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Binaural w32? > Message-ID: <3ffaeb84-291c-7e2e-981e-a1ca531f6dfe(a)gmail.com <mailto:3ffaeb84-291c-7e2e-981e-a1ca531f6dfe@gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > that is nice - although I can't really build anything in windows on my > own. what are the improvements compared to the 2009 version? > > >> I updated the earplug~ external to build using pd-lin-builder, so it >> should be easy to build on Windows: >> >> https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main> >> <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main>> >> >> It's not the best but we use it for a project at work. It can use some >> additional optimizations and the dataset is for 44.1k so you are in >> luck. For our project, we are likely to introduce resampling for other >> sample rates so it's more accurate beyond 44.1k... -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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osx - PD network allowance issues
by oliver 07 Jun '21

07 Jun '21

hi, dear mac users recently i installed PD-0.51-4 on an old macbook (10.9.x) and even though everything works fine, i always get an alert at startup, asking me if i want to allow network connections for this application. i set "allow" everytime plus i also set the firewall exceptions for the PD package (the one in the applications folder) in the security preferences but OSX doesn't seem to care ;-) - i still get this alert on every PD startup ... does somebody here on this list have some experiences in this matter ? thanks for any help oliver

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Binaural w32?
by João Pais 06 Jun '21

06 Jun '21

Hi list, what is the current state of the art in binaural externals? I see in the archives that there are several around, each with advantages/disadvantages. I would need it to: - windows 32b - record the output of an already existing patch with x-y coordinates/trajectories into binaural audio - sample rate fixed at 44.1KHz - there are around 500 samples with an individual player, so each will need its own enconder. They don't play necessarily all together, though. Best, Joao

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Re: [PD] Can't compile pyext for Python3, Python.h no such file or directory (was: Re: [PD-announce] Deep Learning Models in Pure Data with pyext for Python 3)
by Koray Tahiroğlu 05 Jun '21

05 Jun '21

Hi, Could you open this issue on Github, that could be easier for us to follow and try to solve related issues. I will look at this on Monday. Best, Koray ------------------------------------- M.Koray Tahiroğlu Department of Media, Aalto University School of Arts, Design and Architecture http://sopi.aalto.fi/ http://dmi.aalto.fi/ https://sopi.aalto.fi/koraytahiroglu/ tel. +358 50 4088441 > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:54:22 +0300 > From: Alexandros <adrcki(a)gmail.com> > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> > Subject: [PD] Can't compile pyext for Python3, Python.h no such file > or directory (was: Re: [PD-announce] Deep Learning Models in Pure Data > with pyext for Python 3) > Message-ID: <453c3902-16b4-472e-807c-2d3fec6aaf9c(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I initially replied to Koray's mail under [PD-announce], thought this > fits the main mailing list better. > > I'm trying to build everything as instructed here > https://github.com/SopiMlab/DeepLearningWithAudio/blob/master/utilities/pye… > > > Everything is ok until I try to setup pyext. If I type `python build.py` > I get this: > > install: cannot stat 'pd-linux/debug-multi/py.pd_linux': No such file or > directory > > If I go to pyext-setup/py and type `make CPPFLAGS="-I ../flext/source"` > I get this: > > source/pyprefix.h:22:10: fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory > > The thing is I have both Python3.8 and Python3.9 header files installed > in my system in `/usr/include/python3.8/Python.h` and > `/usr/include/python3.9/Python.h` respectively. I'm trying to build the > whole deep learning project with Python3.8. How can I solve this issue? > > I'm on UbuntuStudio 21.04. > > Thanks >

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[PD-announce] Deep Learning Models in Pure Data with pyext for Python 3
by Koray Tahiroğlu 04 Jun '21

04 Jun '21

Dear all, As part of the Deep learning with Audio course, we integrated AI-Duet, DDSP, NSynth, GANSynth, SampleRNN models and GANSpaceSynth hybrid architecture in Pure Data. Here it is the link to the course materials with Pd templates and further setup instructions; https://github.com/SopiMlab/DeepLearningWithAudio We have also developed the pyext external to support Python 3, currently we have instructions for building and installing the SOPI fork of pyext for macOS and linux only. Windows has been problematic when we tried to build pyext, contributions are welcome with building for windows instructions! Here it is the link to the SOPI fork of pyext. https://github.com/SopiMlab/py Best, Koray ------------------------------------- M.Koray Tahiroğlu Department of Media, Aalto University School of Arts, Design and Architecture http://sopi.aalto.fi/ http://dmi.aalto.fi/ https://sopi.aalto.fi/koraytahiroglu/ _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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