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[PD-announce] 2nd Conference on AI Music Creativity (MuMe + CSMC)
by Artemi - Maria Gioti 17 Dec '20

17 Dec '20

2nd Conference on AI Music Creativity (MuMe + CSMC) 18.-22. July 2021 The second joint Conference on AI Music Creativity brings together two overlapping research forums: The Computer Simulation of Music Creativity Conference (est. 2016) and The International Workshop on Musical Metacreation (est. 2012). The objective of the conference is to bring together scholars and artists interested in the emulation and extension of musical creativity through computational means and to provide them with an interdisciplinary platform in which to present and discuss their work in scientific and artistic contexts. The 2021 Joint Conference on AI Music Creativity will be hosted by the Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics (IEM) of the University of Music and Performing Arts of Graz and held online. The five-day program will feature paper presentations, concerts, panel discussions, workshops, tutorials, sound installations and two keynotes. Further details can be found below and on the conference website: https://aimc2021.iem.at/ # Conference theme The theme of AIMC 2021 is: Performing [with] machines. The dual meaning of this title hints towards an understanding of the machine as a performing agent in a human-machine partnership. By putting the emphasis on creative human-machine partnerships in performative contexts, this theme aims to encourage artistic and scientific contributions that deal with the different ways in which musicianship, authorship and performership are challenged, extended and redefined in the era of AI. # Call for Papers We invite submissions of full papers, work-in-progress papers and demos on topics related to AI Music Creativity. For the first time, our call for papers includes a “piece and paper” category, for papers linked with a music submission. # Call for Music We invite artistic submissions that deal with topics related to AI music creativity, involving machines, machine learning and dealing with topics related to agency. We especially encourage and promote submissions that address AI from diverse technical and non-technical as well as critical angles with regard to questions of gender, performance, ecology and aesthetics. # Call for Workshops and Tutorials We welcome the submission of workshop and tutorial proposals related to the conference topics. Selected workshops will be held online and take place on the first day of the conference (July 18th). # Important dates Submission deadline: 1. April 2021 Acceptance notification deadline: 1. May 2021 Camera-ready deadline: 1. June 2021 Conference: 18.-22. July 2021 # Organizing committee Conference chairs: Artemi-Maria Gioti and Gerhard Eckel Music chair: Luc Döbereiner Paper chair: Artemi-Maria Gioti Virtual conference chair: IOhannes zmölnig Diversity consultant: Anna Xambó Web management: Alisa Kobzar If you have questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at: aimc2021(a)iem.at. _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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removedollar
by Csaba Láng 17 Dec '20

17 Dec '20

Dear list, if there is [adddollar( is there [removedollar( too? I want to pack an unknown amount of numbers to a list, between 1-10. it can be once 5, later 3 etc. Is it possible with pd? Best, Popesz

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Re: [PD] Pd 0.51-4-test1 with macOS scrollbar fix
by Dan Wilcox 17 Dec '20

17 Dec '20

That's a decent list, I guess we need a few more things before 0.51-4 is ready. Phil: Pd doesn't explicitly support Dark Mode, so I will add the Info.plist key to disable it for now. What you are seeing is a "mixed Dark Mode" where Tk is picking up background color changes but not font color changes as they are explicit set to white/black etc. We can revisit and enable Dark mode support in another release as it will require more work. Yes, system dialog should stay on top of other Pd windows. I wasn't aware they were somehow on a system level. For normal Cocoa applications, that's a window level key you can set, so Tk must have changed something with how it's handling window types. fede: I think there is a fix for the Font dialog on Github already. The iemguis "bug" is really my fault: when I overhauled the dialogs years ago, I made them "active" for macOS, ie. make changes and see the result immediately. The downside, is that I didn't record the original values when the dialog is first opened, so cancel cannot actually reset the previous values. Miller: The scrollbars fix is a patch to Tk, so you'd have to rebuild Wish.app to see the changes. Let us do some test builds first, then you can pull in any new patches which are ready and rebuild Wish.app, then replace it within mac/stuff. I don't think there is much point to rebuild the mac/stuff tarball too many times and fill the git history. > On Dec 16, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 18:26:22 -0800 > From: Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> > To: ffdd cchh <camarafede(a)gmail.com <mailto:camarafede@gmail.com>> > Cc: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.51-4-test1 with macOS scrollbar fix > Message-ID: <20201216022622.GP772643(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:20201216022622.GP772643@ucsd.edu>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks for all that - it looks like I didn't manage to get > Dan's fix compiled in for some reason... I'll go back and check. > > That stretch thing is stupid from the get-go - I should just > disable it perhaps. > > M > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 08:25:30PM -0500, ffdd cchh wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I found a couple issues for the mac app. I'm testing on Mojave 10.14.5 >> >> On Miller's site, this version does not display scrollbars: >> Software/pd-0.51-4test2.mac.tar.gz >> With Dan's version, scrollbars appear correctly (and better than they used >> to appear, so great job with that!). >> >> I made screen recordings of the issues below, using >> Dan's Pd-0.51-4-test1-scrollbars.zip. Please, let me know if you need those >> (I can copy a drive link or similar): >> 1) Pd crashes when you focus on the pd console, go to Edit > Font, and >> stretch x and y by a value, say 120. After clicking OK, it's a crash. >> 2) iemguis: when you update properties on the property dialog and hit >> return, >> -- if you hit "cancel", changes are already made (I think this might be >> already mentioned somewhere) >> -- The "OK" button font turns white, and it's hard to read. [This font >> color is also present on the Help > Find Externals "Show All" button.] >> >> Other than that, pd's looking good. >> >> Best, >> >> fede -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Pd 0.51-4-test1 with macOS scrollbar fix
by jayrope 16 Dec '20

16 Dec '20

Hi list, report from 10.9.5 Regarding scrollbars - Dan's 4-test1-scrollbars works better than before. All back to normal, as it should be, this was not the case in 0.50-2 (had gotten used to the quirks) - Millers 4test2 shows grey space, when scrolling is needed, but no bars inside that grey space. However, while guessing where the bars should be i can click next to them and get the expected behaviour. I just can't see the bars themselves. As there is no system wide dark mode on 10.9.5 i cannot check for that. Best, jrp On 12/16/20 15:37, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > Re: Pd 0.51-4-test1 with macOS scrollbar fix -- jayrope +++ jayrope.com aircushionfinish.com kliklak.net

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decreasing order from 10 numbers
by Csaba Láng 16 Dec '20

16 Dec '20

Dear list, I need to make a decreasing order from 10 different numbers. Namely, I have 10 people doing something finishing in different times, and I would like to display their ranking in a decreasing order. Is it possible to create such an order in Pd? Any clues are welcome. Best, Popesz

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else/dir: different behaviour between Debian and Ubuntu
by Roman Haefeli 16 Dec '20

16 Dec '20

Hey all I had a long IRC session yesterday trying to fix a problem with netpd on another user's computer. Finally, we were able to narrow down the issue to the behaviour of [else/dir] on Debian Buster being different from Ubuntu 20.04. On Ubuntu (and on Windows) feeding [dir] the path './' returns the content of the current directory of the patch. On Debian Buster, it returns the content of '/' instead. When feeding the path '.', on both Debian Buster and Ubuntu 20.04 the content of the current directory is listed (as expected). My specific problem might be worked-around by removing the trailing slash from any paths fed to [else/dir]. But I'm curious to understand how it is possible that the same compiled binary exhibits different results depending on Linux flavor. Check attached patch that demonstrates the problem on Debian Buster. Roman

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[PD-announce] Ten PhD/postdoc positions at University of Oslo
by Alexander Refsum Jensenius 16 Dec '20

16 Dec '20

Dear all, We are happy to announce several doctoral and postdoctoral fellowships at RITMO Centre for Interdisciplinary Studies in Rhythm, Time, and Motion at the University of Oslo: * <https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/197564/doctoral-research-fel…>Doctoral Research Fellowship in Music, Rhythm and Pleasure <https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/197527/doctoral-research-fel…> * Doctoral Research Fellowship(s) in Psychology-Inspired Computing for Robot Assistants <https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/197564/doctoral-research-fel…> * Post-Doctoral Research Fellowship in Rhythm and Musical Form <https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/196629/post-doctoral-researc…> * Post-Doctoral Research Fellowship in Rhythm and Musical Time <https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/196635/post-doctoral-researc…> * Post-Doctoral Research Fellowship in Rhythms in the body <https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/196623/post-doctoral-researc…> * Postdoctoral Research Fellowship in Cognitive Neuroscience <https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/197535/postdoctoral-research…> * Post-Doctoral Research Fellowship in Entrainment and Adaptation in Musical Multi-robot Systems <https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/197549/post-doctoral-researc…> * Researcher position in Psychology-Inspired Computing for Robot Assistants <https://www.jobbnorge.no/en/available-jobs/job/197522/researcher-position-i…> There is also one more doctoral fellowship at the Department of Musicology that may be of relevance to this list: * Doctoral Research Fellowship in Music Technology <https://www.jobbnorge.no/ledige-stillinger/stilling/195074/doctoral-researc…> The positions have slightly different application deadlines (from 31 January to 15 March), so check specification for each position. Please forward to relevant candidates and do not hesitate to get in touch if you have any questions. Apologies for cross-posting. Best, -- Alexander Refsum Jensenius Professor, Department of Musicology, University of Oslo https://people.uio.no/alexanje Deputy Director, RITMO Centre for Interdisciplinary Studies in Rhythm, Time, and Motion https://www.uio.no/ritmo/english/ Director, fourMs Lab https://fourms.uio.no Chair, NIME Steering Committee https://www.nime.org New master's programme: "Music, Communication & Technology" http://www.uio.no/mct-master _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Pd 0.51-4-test1 with macOS scrollbar fix
by Dan Wilcox 16 Dec '20

16 Dec '20

Howdy all, Miller recently announced a 0.51-4-test1 build which includes some fixes for the UI on macOS. I'd like to include a further build which adds a fix for scrollbars not (re)drawing: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/0.52/Pd-0.51-4-test1-scrollbars.zip <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/0.52/Pd-0.51-4-test1-scrollbars.zip> macOS users: Please check over the UI for any additional "weirdness" since Pd 0.50 as there may be other small teething issues with TK 8.6.10. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Pd 0.51-4-test1 with macOS scrollbar fix
by Philip Stone 16 Dec '20

16 Dec '20

Hey Dan, Thanks for this! It looks like TK 8.6.10 is paying attention to the system “Dark” appearance setting, when set. This leads to ‘interesting’ results with patches (white borders, mostly), and it’s a real problem with dialogs such as Audio Settings, which end up being white text on a light gray background. I’ve also noticed that system dialogs (Audio Settings, MIDI Settings) stay on top even when other applications are in focus. I’m not sure if this is new behavior, though. Best, Phil Stone Davis, CA _______________________________________________________ Howdy all, Miller recently announced a 0.51-4-test1 build which includes some fixes for the UI on macOS. I'd like to include a further build which adds a fix for scrollbars not (re)drawing: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/0.52/Pd-0.51-4-test1-scrollbars.zip <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/0.52/Pd-0.51-4-test1-scrollbars.zip> macOS users: Please check over the UI for any additional "weirdness" since Pd 0.50 as there may be other small teething issues with TK 8.6.10. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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[PD-announce] Pd 0.41-5 test1 released
by Miller Puckette via Pd-announce 15 Dec '20

15 Dec '20

nnounce: Pd 0.51-4 test 1 is out on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html (git repo here: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data) Fixes a lockup on writesf~ to nonexistent directory on windows, and a problem with the help menu on MacOS. Also (and more important), makes several changes to support libpd better. cheers Miller _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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