Pd-list October 2019

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Re: [PD] Jackpilot/Soundflower
by Peter Nyboer 14 Oct '19

14 Oct '19

I haven’t tried this, but I had never heard of it until recently and seems worth a look. https://github.com/ExistentialAudio/BlackHole > On Oct 13, 2019, at 6:12 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-owner(a)lists.iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Jackpilot/Soundflower (Dan Wilcox) > 2. Re: Jackpilot/Soundflower (Darren Kelly) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 15:05:41 +0200 > From: Dan Wilcox <danomatika(a)gmail.com> > To: mauricemoncozet <mauricemoncozet(a)free.fr> > Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com>, Pd-List > <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] Jackpilot/Soundflower > Message-ID: <D6CB0C1B-AF20-47CB-A44D-5E5125A25BDD(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > There is also Loopback: https://www.rogueamoeba.com/loopback/ <https://www.rogueamoeba.com/loopback/>. I have used Audio Hijack from the same developers and it works well. > > In any case, if you can use JACK it will still be a better solution. > >> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: >> >> From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> >> To: Kjetil Matheussen <k.s.matheussen(a)notam02.no <mailto:k.s.matheussen@notam02.no>> >> Cc: mauricemoncozet <mauricemoncozet(a)free.fr <mailto:mauricemoncozet@free.fr>>, Pd-list >> <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> >> Subject: Re: [PD] Jackpilot/Soundflower >> Message-ID: >> <CAEAsFmhTGbz5MYxiRUjqo_nqttDJYKO=PO5pNb0zzLwdztVrvw(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAEAsFmhTGbz5MYxiRUjqo_nqttDJYKO=PO5pNb0zzLwdztVrvw@mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> sound syphon might work, I use it (the free version) for simple >> things/connections >> >> ok, now I check their site https://staticz.com/soundsiphon/ <https://staticz.com/soundsiphon/> >> >> and I dont see a free version anymore... :/ but I see they support catalina >> >> maybe I have an earlier version (sound syphon 2) where they still had this >> free version > > -------- > Dan Wilcox > @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> > danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> > robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > > > >

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soundfiler output
by Simon Iten 14 Oct '19

14 Oct '19

hi there, if i save an array via soundfiler and select wav as a container, is there a way to specify the format. i would like to save as 16bit integers instead of float. the helpfile only mentions reading those files...

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Re: [PD] Jackpilot/Soundflower
by Dan Wilcox 14 Oct '19

14 Oct '19

There is also Loopback: https://www.rogueamoeba.com/loopback/ <https://www.rogueamoeba.com/loopback/>. I have used Audio Hijack from the same developers and it works well. In any case, if you can use JACK it will still be a better solution. > On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> > To: Kjetil Matheussen <k.s.matheussen(a)notam02.no <mailto:k.s.matheussen@notam02.no>> > Cc: mauricemoncozet <mauricemoncozet(a)free.fr <mailto:mauricemoncozet@free.fr>>, Pd-list > <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Jackpilot/Soundflower > Message-ID: > <CAEAsFmhTGbz5MYxiRUjqo_nqttDJYKO=PO5pNb0zzLwdztVrvw(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAEAsFmhTGbz5MYxiRUjqo_nqttDJYKO=PO5pNb0zzLwdztVrvw@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > sound syphon might work, I use it (the free version) for simple > things/connections > > ok, now I check their site https://staticz.com/soundsiphon/ <https://staticz.com/soundsiphon/> > > and I dont see a free version anymore... :/ but I see they support catalina > > maybe I have an earlier version (sound syphon 2) where they still had this > free version -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Jackpilot/Soundflower
by mauricemoncozet 13 Oct '19

13 Oct '19

Hello, With Mac OS 10.15 Catalina Jackpilot (32 bit) will not work anymore. As a musician I use it a lot to connect Pd to Mainstage or others. Do you know if Soundflower that seems to be working with Mojave (OS 10.14) will continue with 10.15? Thank you for your answers. MM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://mauricemoncozet.free.fr

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Vanilla method for symbol -> float
by João Pais 12 Oct '19

12 Oct '19

Hi list, I was trying something without succes, and couldn't find any documentation for it as well. I wanted to split the symbol 2/4 to separate the numbers on both sides of the / . No problem using [list fromsymbol] and [list tosymbol] in doing that. But, afterwards I can't find a way of turning the symbol back to a float, except using an external. Is there any special hack somewhere for this? Best, JOao

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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] networking updates
by Christof Ressi 12 Oct '19

12 Oct '19

Hi Roman, thanks a lot for testing! > I think 'ASCII' should be re-labeled as 'FUDI', since that it is the protocol the non-binary mode actually uses. Agreed! Fixed it in the documentation. Christof > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Oktober 2019 um 23:53 Uhr > Von: "Roman Haefeli" <reduzent(a)gmail.com> > An: pd-dev(a)lists.iem.at > Betreff: Re: [PD-dev] networking updates > > Hey Dan > > On Sun, 2019-08-11 at 03:49 +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > > Christoph and I have more or less finished some work that updates > > Pd's networking and also fixes some bugs and a couple pain points: > > Cool. Thank you both! > > I did test a few things with patches I just made up (on Ubuntu 18.04), > since my network-based patches usually use iemnet. Although, I can't > help you out with real-world data, here are some findings: > > > * IPv6 support > > I wasn't able to test yet. I was worried about the future with Pd and > networking, but don't have to be now, thanks to you ;-) > > > * multicast > > Works for me, between different computers in the same LAN and also > between different software (nc -> Pd, Pd <-> Pd). > > > * netsend: optional from hostname & port outlet > > That's really useful and absolutely necessary when dealing with > multiple incoming connections. Only now it is possible to write server- > like patches with Pd-vanilla. > > > * netsend: connectionless UDP, no more connection refused (fire & > > forget without having to manually reconnect) > > Although the old behavior was "correct" in some sense (it was > nitpickingly correct to terminate a link to an endpoint detected not to > be existent), I think the new behavior is much more useful. It works > well for me, I can shut down the receiving host, restart the software > or even replace the software by another listening on the same port, the > packets still arrive. > > > * netreceive: settable timeout which defaults to 10 seconds (no more > > super-long frozen Pd) > > Definitely an improvement, too. The OS defaults are way too long. The > default is good, having it settable even better. > > > * improved error printing with netsend and netrceive Find Last Error > > support > > * various small bug fixes (no more polling errors after socket is > > closed) > > Nice. > > > One current limitation is that Tcl 8.5 does not have IPv6 support, so > > the core communication with the GUI remains IPv4. > > I wouldn't know why the internal connection should switch to IPv6. My > gut feeling is that such things will stay on IPv4 for quite long. > > > One little thing bugs me in the help file of [netsend] and I just > noticed that it was there since at least 0.47: The different modes are > labeled 'ASCII' vs. 'binary'. I think 'ASCII' is misleading in that > there are semantics in the message format. Spaces have meaning, > messages are always terminated by semi-colon. You can't use the 'ASCII' > mode for generating arbitrary messages. 'ASCII' suggests you could use > it to write valid HTTP requests which you can't. I think 'ASCII' should > be re-labeled as 'FUDI', since that it is the protocol the non-binary > mode actually uses. > > I think these are _very_ valuable improvements for Pd's net objects. I > can't think of a reason not to include them. Of course, it would be > interesting to get some feedback also from people who actually have > patches that heavily use those objects. > > Roman > _______________________________________________ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev(a)lists.iem.at > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >

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Re: [PD] Vanilla method for symbol -> float
by Henri Augusto Bisognini 12 Oct '19

12 Oct '19

> I wanted to split the symbol 2/4 to separate the numbers on both sides > of the / . No problem using [list fromsymbol] and [list tosymbol] in > doing that. But, afterwards I can't find a way of turning the symbol > back to a float, except using an external. Is there any special hack > somewhere for this? For your fractions example you can do it with easyflow<https://github.com/HenriAugusto/easyflow>. Screenshot: [cid:43d28b41-702d-43d8-92f7-f1bcb2c08949] Cheers, Henri. ________________________________ De: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces(a)lists.iem.at> em nome de João Pais <jmmmpais(a)gmail.com> Enviado: sábado, 12 de outubro de 2019 04:01 Para: PD-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> Assunto: [PD] Vanilla method for symbol -> float Hi list, I was trying something without succes, and couldn't find any documentation for it as well. I wanted to split the symbol 2/4 to separate the numbers on both sides of the / . No problem using [list fromsymbol] and [list tosymbol] in doing that. But, afterwards I can't find a way of turning the symbol back to a float, except using an external. Is there any special hack somewhere for this? Best, JOao _______________________________________________ Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: [PD] Jackpilot/Soundflower
by Dan Wilcox 11 Oct '19

11 Oct '19

I also recommend using homebrew to install qjackctl. It's *far* better than JackPilot which is probably one reason why JackPilot has not been updated in some time. As others have pointed out, jack itself works fine on a 64 bit system. > On Oct 11, 2019, at 4:11 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:37:21 +0200 > From: Kjetil Matheussen <k.s.matheussen(a)gmail.com <mailto:k.s.matheussen@gmail.com>> > To: mauricemoncozet <mauricemoncozet(a)free.fr <mailto:mauricemoncozet@free.fr>> > Cc: Pd-list <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Jackpilot/Soundflower > Message-ID: > <CAC6niELSXX7GNDpEXS9-_87wy2MTWssWgV_k8xdHx_hexjcfMA(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAC6niELSXX7GNDpEXS9-_87wy2MTWssWgV_k8xdHx_hexjcfMA@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:43 AM mauricemoncozet > <mauricemoncozet(a)free.fr <mailto:mauricemoncozet@free.fr>> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> With Mac OS 10.15 Catalina Jackpilot (32 bit) will not work anymore. As a musician I use it a lot to connect Pd to Mainstage or others. >> Do you know if Soundflower that seems to be working with Mojave (OS 10.14) will continue with 10.15? >> Thank you for your answers. > > Jack is supposed to still work under 10.15, it's just the Jackpilot > program (32 bit) that won't work anymore. You can still run jack > manually from the command line. You might also try qjackctl instead of > jackpilot too. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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[GEM] advices about midi latency ?
by pierre＠314r.net 11 Oct '19

11 Oct '19

Hello all, somes questions here about midi process optimization : the midi setup : a korg electribe send midi message (noteon and controlchanges) to an usb soundcard (umc204hd) connect by USB to puredata/gem to finally draw things on screen (3d objects, videos textures, shaders etc) (nvidia hardware and drivers) all I want is to optimize midi latency and be able to draw things as fast as possible (considering this hardware) ie reduce the time between the midi event and the generated graphics what I've done : reduce pd audio buffer to 3 use a 'delay line controler' to delay audio (something like 60ms is needed) and so retreive an 'good' A/V sync I know that : - double buffering add latency (and solve flickering) - somes videoprojectors add latency due to an internal video buffer - the more I can draw frames/second the more I can draw small events on screen (nyquist) - tcltk could also be a problem because I have big patches - when I measure midi lag by looping a midi message to and from the usb soundcard I get around 2ms, which is very good ! (tested with pd and also with alsa-midi-latency-test) any experience or advice on theses questions ? what are yours best setup/experiences to acheive really fast sync ? thanks you all Pierre

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Comma separators, as in pool.
by Samuel Burt 10 Oct '19

10 Oct '19

I'm updating code in Windows 10 64-bit and there are no 64-bit pool binaries. I'm in the process of writing my own pool objects using [list]s and [text]s, however I'm having a problem. Pool formatted data files use this format: , "index-name" , value , "index-name" , value , "index-name" , value I've tried a lot of things, but I'm stuck with \, messages in my file. Is there a way to pass [text] a list that also includes isolated commas? It's very fairly important that this project maintains backwards capability. Otherwise I would write entirely new routines for saving data. Sam

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