Pd-list September 2018

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select based on first "element"
by Atte 12 Sep '18

12 Sep '18

Hi I'm getting back into PD after a long time. Sorry if the following is either obvious, obviously impossible, unclear, or the wrong way to go about things. I have an abstraction that I'd like to send different data through the same inlet, say param1=0, param2=3. Taking the abstraction part out of the equation, I guess I need to parse a list based on the first element. Here's what I have, which doesn't work: |param1 0( |param2 3( |_______________| | | select param1 param2 | | | | |print p1| |print p2| How would I go about that? I'm in vanilla... Cheers -- Atte http://atte.dk http://a773.dk

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released- small things on Windows 10
by rolfm＠dds.nl 12 Sep '18

12 Sep '18

a few remarks on Windows 10 only with the 64-bits version: in the window of menu-open one cannot use the address bar in the top see attached picture. with 32&64 bits versions: when opening a patch the window has scroll bars. when i move the window the scroll bars disappear. the appearances of the 32 & 64 bits versions are different: the 32-bits version gives bigger windows (~ 18%) and the font looks blown-up. rolf

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[PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0test2 released
by Miller Puckette 12 Sep '18

12 Sep '18

To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.49-0test2 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data This fixes a bug in the Macintosh version that crashed Pd, and several more minor problems. cheers Miller _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] audio reconnect was PD 0.49-0test1 released
by Dan Wilcox 11 Sep '18

11 Sep '18

I'm not seeing any of this behavior on macOS. Pd doesn't hang when I unplug my USB audio interface, but it doesn't reconnect or print an error. Trying to reselect it in the audio dialog leads to a hang where the GUI is somewhat responsive but the core is obviously stuck. > On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:13 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 21:12:51 +0200 > From: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi(a)gmx.at <mailto:christof.ressi@gmx.at>> > To: "Lucas Cordiviola" <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com <mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>> > Cc: "pd-lista puredata" <pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released > Message-ID: > <trinity-d0c3e113-e859-4665-bde1-8ea6b1baf64b-1536693171656@3c-app-gmx-bs57> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > thanks for testing! seems like it works fine on Windows. BTW, one big fix I made is that if the audio device gets disconnected (for whatever reason), Pd will not hang but instead try to reconnect and if that fails, close the device gracefully and post an error. if you feel like, you can try it out: > > a) just unplug the USB cable and quickly (within about a second) plug it back in: Pd should automatically reconnect. > b) if you leave it unplugged for a bit longer, Pd will print an error. now plug the cable back in and toggle DSP off/on: the device should be connected again. > > Christof -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] 0.49-0test1 multiple lib loading? was PD 0.49-0test1 released
by Dan Wilcox 11 Sep '18

11 Sep '18

Do you have more than 1 copy of zexy in your paths? The main change is that -path and -lib now also search user and the pd "standard paths." See https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/205 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/205> > On Sep 11, 2018, at 4:34 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw(a)hotmail.com <mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com>> > To: "pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>" <pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released > Message-ID: > <VI1PR0102MB3584477FD371E107B8E523FDFC040(a)VI1PR0102MB3584.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com <mailto:VI1PR0102MB3584477FD371E107B8E523FDFC040@VI1PR0102MB3584.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions. > > Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it. > > > 1. I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed? -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
by Henri Augusto Bisognini 11 Sep '18

11 Sep '18

You mean if this issue is happening? https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443 No it doesn't :) Or are you facing other kind of problem? Using Asio can be somewhat tricky sometimes. Henri. ________________________________ De: Christof Ressi <christof.ressi(a)gmx.at> Enviado: terça-feira, 11 de setembro de 2018 14:06 Para: msndohenri(a)hotmail.com Assunto: Fw: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released Hi Henri, since you are on Windows, the same question goes to you (see below). Thanks! Christof > Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:57 Uhr > Von: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi(a)gmx.at> > An: "Lucas Cordiviola" <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com> > Cc: "pd-lista puredata" <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released > > Hi Lucas, > > since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX. > > Christof > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr > Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" <porres(a)gmail.com> > An: "pd-lista puredata" <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released > > I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443 > > anyone else? > > Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu: > > hello, one question i always forget to ask: > > Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48? > > it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j > > (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed) > > > > Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can read about all the new commands here > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374[https://github.com/pure-dat… > > And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after) > > > > > > > Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw@hotmail.com[mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com]> escreveu: > > I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions. > > Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it. > > > I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I get "; \\; $ $ \\, \\,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at[mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at]> on behalf of Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu[mailto:msp@ucsd.edu]> > Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23 > To: pd-announce@iem.at[mailto:pd-announce@iem.at] > Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released > > > The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm[http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm] > or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-da… > > cheers > Miller > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-announce mailing list > Pd-announce@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-announce@lists.iem.at] > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list[https://lists.puredata.info/li… > Pd-list@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list[https://lists.puredata.info/li… > Pd-list@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list[https://lists.puredata.info/li… Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list[https://lists.puredata.info/li… > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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Re: [PD] hsl binding was PD 0.49-0test1 released
by Dan Wilcox 11 Sep '18

11 Sep '18

I attempted to make the key bindings the same across all platforms. SHIFT+CTL+H works fine on Windows and Linux, but SHIFT+CMD+H invokes the macOS window manager's CMD+H bindings which *hides* the window. That's pretty annoying and there wasn't a way to avoid it, other than to avoid bindings to CMD+H* altogether. In my thinking, having the same mental binding when switching between platforms was more of a positive over the slight loss of H = "hsl". > On Sep 11, 2018, at 6:39 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:53:42 -0300 > From: José de Abreu <abreubacelar(a)gmail.com <mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com>> > To: "pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>" <pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released > Message-ID: > <CAPy0Dupwt=pEXwu=cKiEzrV=4ESo8uabAH-6xJXKDobyEwhzAQ(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAPy0Dupwt=pEXwu=cKiEzrV=4ESo8uabAH-6xJXKDobyEwhzAQ@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > hello, one question i always forget to ask: > > Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48? > > it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j > > (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
by Dan Wilcox 11 Sep '18

11 Sep '18

Liam has a good point. Maybe this info can be added to the manual? > On Sep 11, 2018, at 5:14 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: José de Abreu <abreubacelar(a)gmail.com <mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com>> > To: Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw(a)hotmail.com <mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com>> > Cc: "pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>" <pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released > Message-ID: > <CAPy0DupWZmAA4LVVzyMegn5suqPR2BWAk+vV-LMw_zXnT5QgTg(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAPy0DupWZmAA4LVVzyMegn5suqPR2BWAk+vV-LMw_zXnT5QgTg@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Liam, you can read about all the new commands here > > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374> -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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[PD-announce] Reminder: Call for Participation - ALMAT Workshop @ Impuls, Academy 2019
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 11 Sep '18

11 Sep '18

ALMAT - "Algorithms That Matter" Workshop at the impuls 11th International Ensemble and Composers Academy for Contemporary Music 2019 Special workshop for computer music practitioners, sound artists and composers Call for Participation Deadline: October 1st, 2018 with Robin Minard, David Pirrò, Hanns Holger Rutz http://www.impuls.cc/academy-2019/special-programs.html#c5169 [please distribute] Algorithms that Matter (ALMAT) focuses on the experimentation with algorithms and their embedding in sound works. Rather than conceiving algorithms as established building blocks or the a priori formalisation of a compositional idea, we look at them as performing entities whose consequences are irreducible to models. Algorithms “matter” in the sense that matter and meaning cannot be distinguished, neither can artists and their computational tools. Algorithms actively produce spaces and temporalities which become entangled with their physical embeddings. The 2019 edition of the workshop focuses on the development of a site-specific sound installation. The installation will explore the interactions of algorithmic and physical spaces and their dynamic and mutable properties. Participants will work on the premise that spaces and our perception of them change depending on presence, absence, the movement of visitors, the time of the day, the rhythm of the surroundings as well as the sonic and algorithmic interventions we bring into them. This workshop seeks to attract computer music practitioners, sound artists and composers by offering a platform for exchange and reflection about their personal approaches towards algorithmic experimentation. The participants are invited to develop their various approaches within an atmosphere of collaboration, where special emphasis will be given to the translation of environmental data (such as sensor input from the surroundings and visitors) through computer music systems developed and assembled by the participants and tutors. One question we want to pursue is how behaviours can be composed that transition from "technical and artificial" to "organic and alive", particularly through the articulation of spatiality. The workshop starts with an internal presentation of the participants for the other participants and tutors. An initial sound situation using a large number of small reconfigurable speakers forms the starting point for in-situ work. This structure will then be available for decomposition and rearrangement by the participants. The space will become a public exhibition halfway through the workshop, making it possible to observe and adapt to the interactions with the audience, a central question in the making of sound installations. The workshop will be held with technical infrastructure provided by the Institute for Electronic Music and Acoustics (IEM), including an 48-channel sound system and a selection of sensors. The workshop ALMAT was developed by David Pirrò and Hanns Holger Rutz (both IEM Graz) and will be held together with the special support by Robin Minard. How to apply: 1.) First, you must register and be accepted as a participant of the impuls Academy 2019. 2.) Along with your application, you must submit a statement concerning your specific interest in participating in the ALMAT Workshop or send this by e-mail to office(at)impuls(dot)cc. 3.) In addition, please send a description of your personal work in relation to the workshop's theme stating your previous experiences and describing employed computational approaches, their aesthetic _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] Slider/Knob
by oliver 10 Sep '18

10 Sep '18

Clemens wrote: > Hi Oliver, hi, clemens ! I'm replying to the list in case someone else wants to know. > how can I give the knob a name? 2 ways: 1.) you give it as a creation argument as the helpfile says you can give up to 6 creation arguments for [ol_knob]. if you give only one, it's the send/receive name what you neeed to do: create an object and type "ol_knob yyy" this will create the default knob with a "remote" name. my own personal convention is, that receive names have the appendix "-r" so: you get values FROM the knob with [r yyy] you send values TO the knob with [s yyy-r] 2.) you set the name in the properties simply create an object and type "ol_knob" this will create the default knob (without a "remote" name !) right click the object and you will find an entry called "properties". there you open a window that lets you set all of the possible properties of the knob (size/type/range etc.). the one you want is the first one ("remote name"). type your name (let's say "yyy"), press enter (important !) and click "APPLY". then you have to SAVE the patch you are working on to make it constant (which is also true for any PD native GUI object). the same rule applies to this method as above: you get values FROM the knob with [r yyy] you send values TO the knob with [s yyy-r] ====================================================================== the help file should explain all possibilities as well in case you have any more difficulties, send me a PM. best oliver

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