Pd-list December 2018

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Re: [PD] tilde character on a mac
by Alexandre Torres Porres 20 Dec '18

20 Dec '18

it's an international english mac, the key is to set the keyboard layout to american US, I had it at international, so now I can do it! cheers Em qui, 20 de dez de 2018 às 18:07, michael strohmann <itsnotfair9(a)gmail.com> escreveu: > which keyboard layout do you have? > you can change this in preferences, > or use this thing: > https://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=ukelele > > > On 20 Dec 2018, at 20:36, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi, long ago, I remember I was able to setup my mac so you could select a > tilde character (~) without the need to hit space aftewrwards! That's so > convenient for Pd you know :) > > I have new computers and don't remember how to do this, anyone knows? > > cheers > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >

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Re: [PD] Pd Vanilla donecanvasdialog GOP starts edit mode
by Dan Wilcox 20 Dec '18

20 Dec '18

I'm too lazy to look it up and I don't remember the exact details, but I believe you can change the 4th argument to 3 and it will not set edit mode, ala: pd-$1data-marker donecanvasdialog 1 1 3 0 0 110 110 $2 $3 0 0 1 1 1; 3 is the key. If this is a different issue, sorry for the noise. > On Dec 14, 2018, at 9:36 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 10:21:26 -0500 > From: JTG III <jordanthomasgibbonsiii(a)gmail.com <mailto:jordanthomasgibbonsiii@gmail.com>> > To: João Pais <jmmmpais(a)gmail.com <mailto:jmmmpais@gmail.com>> > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)mail.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@mail.iem.at>>, Miller Puckette > <msp(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd Vanilla donecanvasdialog GOP starts edit mode > Message-ID: > <CAGbW+N=k2V4abfEUhyXXBsSbr719dW4cG2EpMBT=NuzLccvyBw(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAGbW+N=k2V4abfEUhyXXBsSbr719dW4cG2EpMBT=NuzLccvyBw@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > yeah, I brought this up when pd-0.49, or whatever it's going by these > days, was released, it seems to be something that was imported from L2ork > along with the infinite undo, perhaps, or maybe some other new, uh, smart > editing feature, which I seem to be too simple to get much out of except > frustration, though I'm still using 0.48-2 and maybe I haven't given it a > chance yet. > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 9:09 PM João Pais, <jmmmpais(a)gmail.com <mailto:jmmmpais@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> I just noticed something new: when sending a donecanvasdialog message to a >> subpatch in a GOP, it starts editmode in the parent patch. Afaik, this >> wasn't the previous behaviour (it still isn't in pd extended). >> >> Here is a patch to illustrate the problem. Doesn't happen with coords, >> though. >> >> Best, >> >> Joao -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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tilde character on a mac
by Alexandre Torres Porres 20 Dec '18

20 Dec '18

Hi, long ago, I remember I was able to setup my mac so you could select a tilde character (~) without the need to hit space aftewrwards! That's so convenient for Pd you know :) I have new computers and don't remember how to do this, anyone knows? cheers

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Status of PD double precision
by Dario Sanfilippo 19 Dec '18

19 Dec '18

Hello, list. I'm just curious to know if anybody is actively working on a double precision version of PD. Please let me know if I can help in any way. Best, Dario

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GEM building error: Event.cpp / addevent
by gnd 18 Dec '18

18 Dec '18

Hi ! Not sure if the gem-dev mailinglist still works so ill ask here. I was trying to build the latest sources of GEM 0.43.3 with latest pd 0.49.0 and i stumbled across this error: Event.cpp: In function 'void triggerKeyboardEvent(char*, int, int)': Event.cpp:461:38: error: invalid conversion from 'const char*' to 'char*' [-fpermissive] addEvent(KEYBOARD, gensym(string)->s_name, 0, 0, state, 0, value, 0); It is also described here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=909824 I would be interested in the patch as apparently it is not included in the sources i downloaded. Also checking the GEM Sourceforge i dont see any changes from 2018 (as the Debian bug would suggest) - maybe its in a branch ? Thanks for any suggestions how to make it build ! gnd/

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[PD-announce] MuMe Workshop 2019, Call for Submissions
by MuMe 17 Dec '18

17 Dec '18

====================== CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS ====================== ((( MUME 2019 ))) The 7th International Workshop on Musical Metacreation http://musicalmetacreation.org June 17-18, 2019, Charlotte, North Carolina MUME 2019 is to be held at the University of North Carolina Charlotte in conjunction with the 10th International Conference on Computational Creativity, ICCC 2019 (http://computationalcreativity.net/iccc2019). === Important Dates === Workshop submission deadline: February 24, 2019 Notification date: April 28, 2019 Camera-ready version: May 19, 2019 Workshop dates: June 17-18, 2019 ====================== Metacreation applies tools and techniques from artificial intelligence, artificial life, and machine learning, themselves often inspired by cognitive and natural science, for creative tasks. Musical Metacreation studies the design and use of these generative tools and theories for music making: discovery and exploration of novel musical styles and content, collaboration between human performers and creative software “partners”, and design of systems in gaming and entertainment that dynamically generate or modify music. MUME intends to bring together artists, practitioners, and researchers interested in developing systems that autonomously (or interactively) recognize, learn, represent, compose, generate, complete, accompany, or interpret music. As such, we welcome contributions to the theory or practice of generative music systems and their applications in new media, digital art, and entertainment at large. Topics =========================== We encourage paper and demo submissions on MUME-related topics, including the following: -- Models, Representation and Algorithms for MUME ---- Novel representations of musical information ---- Advances or applications of AI, machine learning, and statistical techniques for generative music ---- Advances of A-Life, evolutionary computing or agent and multi-agent based systems for generative music ---- Computational models of human musical creativity -- Systems and Applications of MUME ---- Systems for autonomous or interactive music composition ---- Systems for automatic generation of expressive musical interpretation ---- Systems for learning or modeling music style and structure ---- Systems for intelligently remixing or recombining musical material ---- Online musical systems (i.e. systems with a real-time element) ---- Adaptive and generative music in video games ---- Generative systems in sound synthesis, or automatic synthesizer design ---- Techniques and systems for supporting human musical creativity ---- Emerging musical styles and approaches to music production and performance involving the use of AI systems ---- Applications of musical metacreation for digital entertainment: sound design, soundtracks, interactive art, etc. -- Evaluation of MUME ---- Methodologies for qualitative or quantitative evaluation of MUME systems ---- Studies reporting on the evaluation of MUME ---- Socio-economical Impact of MUME ---- Philosophical implication of MUME ---- Authorship and legal implications of MUME Submission Format and Requirements ================================= Please make submissions via the EasyChair system at: https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=mume2019 The workshop is a day and a half event that includes: -Presentations of FULL TECHNICAL PAPERS (8 pages maximum) -Presentations of POSITION PAPERS and WORK-IN-PROGRESS PAPERS (5 pages maximum) -Presentations of DEMONSTRATIONS (3 pages maximum) which present outputs of systems (working live or offline). All papers should be submitted as complete works. Demo systems should be tested and working by the time of submission, rather than be speculative. We encourage audio and video material to accompany and illustrate the papers (especially for demos). We ask that authors arrange for their web hosting of audio and video files, and give URL links to all such files within the text of the submitted paper. Submissions do not have to be anonymized, as we use single-blind reviewing. Each submission will be reviewed by at least three program committee members. Workshop papers will be published as MUME 2019 Proceedings and will be archived with an ISBN number. Please use the updated MuMe paper template to format your paper. Also please feel free to edit the licence entry (at the bottom left of the first page of the new template). We created a new MUME 2019 template based on AAAI template. The MUME 2019 latex and Word template is available at: http://musicalmetacreation.org/buddydrive/file/templates_mume2019/ Submission should be uploaded using MUME 2019 EasyChair portal: https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=mume2019 For complete details on attendance, submissions and formatting, please visit the workshop website: http://musicalmetacreation.org Presentation and Multimedia Equipment: ========================================== We will provide a video projection system as well as a stereo audio system for use by presenters at the venue. Additional equipment required for presentations and demonstrations should be supplied by the presenters. Contact the Workshop Chair to discuss any special equipment and setup needs/concerns. Attendance ======================================= It is expected that at least one author of each accepted submission will attend the workshop to present their contribution. We also welcome those who would like to attend the workshop without presenting. Workshop registration will be available through the ICCC 2019 conference system. History ======================================= MUME 2019 builds on the enthusiastic response and participation we received for the past occurrences of MUME series: MUME 2012 (held in conjunction with AIIDE 2012 at Stanford): http://musicalmetacreation.org/mume-2012/ MUME 2013 (held in conjunction with AIIDE 2013 at NorthEastern): http://musicalmetacreation.org/mume-2013/ MUME 2014 (held in conjunction with AIIDE 2014 at North Carolina): http://musicalmetacreation.org/mume-2014/ MUME 2016 (held in conjunction with ICCC 2016 at Université Pierre et Marie Curie): http://musicalmetacreation.org/mume-2016/ MUME 2017 (held in conjunction with ICCC 2017 at Georgia Institute of Technology): http://musicalmetacreation.org/mume-2017/ MUME 2018 (held in conjunction with ICCC 2018 at Salamanca University): http://musicalmetacreation.org/mume-2018/ Questions & Requests ====================================== Please direct any inquiries/suggestions/special requests to one of the Workshop Chairs, Bob (keller(a)cs.hmc.edu) or Bob (bobs(a)kth.se). Workshop Organizers =================== Program Co-Chair Robert M. Keller, Professor Computer Science Department Harvey Mudd College 301 Platt Blvd Claremont, CA 91711 USA https://www.cs.hmc.edu/~keller/ keller(a)cs.hmc.edu Program Co-Chair Bob L. Sturm, Associate Professor Tal, Musik och Hörsel (Speech, Music and Hearing) Lindstedtsvägen 24 School of Electronic Engineering and Computer Science Royal Institute of Technology KTH, Sweden https://www.kth.se/profile/bobs bobs(a)kth.se Concert Chair Gus Xia, Assistant Professor Computer Science NYU Shanghai gxia(a)nyu.edu Publicity Chair Dr. Oliver Bown Senior Lecturer Faculty of Art & Design, The University of New South Wales Room AG12, Cnr Oxford St & Greens Rd, Paddington, NSW, 2021, Australia o.bown(a)unsw.edu.au ---------------------- http://musicalmetacreation.org ====================== MUME Steering Committee Andrew Brown, Griffith University, Australia Michael Casey, Dartmouth College, US Arne Eigenfeldt, Simon Fraser University, Canada Anna Jordanous, University of Kent, UK Bob Keller, Harvey Mudd College, US Róisín Loughran, University College Dublin, Ireland Philippe Pasquier, Simon Fraser University, Canada Benjamin Smith, Purdue University Indianapolis, USA _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Cube Fest 2019 call for participation
by Eric Lyon 16 Dec '18

16 Dec '18

Greetings and apologies for any cross-postings. Cube Fest 2019 is now accepting proposals. The festival will take place at the Moss Arts Center on the campus of Virginia Tech, from August 8 – 11, 2019. Proposals are invited in three categories: 1) Music for High-Density Loudspeaker Arrays. 2) Immersive media for presentation on the Cyclorama, an immersive projection environment in the Cube, supporting stereoscopic video. 3) Proposals for an immersive, multi-sensory experience in the Cube. The deadlines for all proposals is February 15, 2019. Please visit the Cube Fest 2019 website for application portals and further details: http://icat.vt.edu/2019-cube-fest-proposals Best, Eric

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Vanilla suggestions 2
by João Pais 16 Dec '18

16 Dec '18

Hello list, a couple more assorted suggestions with no specific logic: - is seems that the old trick of simulating graphical depth by deleting something and undoing it so that it appears on top doesn't work anymore. I would say it even affects old patches, but I can't confirm this. Is this a consequence of the new undo routine? This isn't necessarily bad, but it's a change in habits. E.g. instead of deleting+undoing, the object can be duplicated instead (and the position corrected). - undo doesn't work on change of gui settings (color, variables, ...). But this behaviour was the same in previous versions, just a reminder. - when hovering over gui objects, the mouse pointer changes direction. This was the case also for arrays, but it doesn't seem to be anymore? Also, before to edit an array it was necessary to click in a defined value - now it's possible to click anywhere. - the horizontal slider shortcut changed, but I'm not seeing it used anywhere else (- small detail: most shortcuts are described in the menus as "Ctrl+Shift+...", others as "Shift+Ctrl+...". I guess the first is the norm?) [maybe I wasn't paying attention to these changes in previous editions and they're documented for a long time] A curiosity: where is defined the vertical distance for new objects added automatically? I would like to change it if possible.

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Grid, x y control
by Max 15 Dec '18

15 Dec '18

Hi list, what's the current recommendation for a simple x-y Pd GUI controller type of thing? Like a slider but horizontal and vertical. There are probably a few externals providing this, which one is the best/most compatible/future proof? In vanilla this can be emulated with an object reporting its position on a canvas, but to use it one must change to the edit mode which is kind of counter-intuitive. Anything I'm missing? m

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Small vanilla suggestions (windows)
by João Pais 15 Dec '18

15 Dec '18

Hello list, I have some suggestions for simple vanilla features which might be helpful: - soundfiler - send a message when a file or an array isn't found. This would be useful for the patch to process this information (instead of just showing it in the console) E.g. "error file xx not found" and "error array xx not found". This allows to sort out the components using route, unpack, etc. and can be updated to further error types. For now the soundfiler reacts with 0 in all outputs. - in pd extended, when typing in the name of a new object, the key combination ctrl+return would "close" the object. This is now done by ctrl+e, which serves for both closing the objects and go in/out of edit mode. Currently, presing ctrl+e while editing an object closes the object, but not the edit mode. Is it better to separate these two functions? - in windows, when opening a patch the horizontal/vertical sliders are always shown, independently if the patch contents take more space than the window canvas (I think this was mentioned already) (- I sent yesterday a post regarding donecanvasdialog and edit mode) Best, Joao

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