Pd-list April 2017

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bring the noise
by Matt Davey 07 Apr '17

07 Apr '17

obviously [noise~] does a decent job with white noise, but i'm interested what sorts of other processes there are to generate noise, particularly noise more reminiscent of analogue machines. or even really weird digital lo-fi approaches or anything like that. basically, [noise~] alone is not cutting it for what i want. my current go-to approach is: [noise~] | [* 10000] | [phasor~] | [expr~ $v1 * 2 - 1] but for sure there must be heaps more interesting methods to get good (or super evil) sounding noise.

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Re: [PD] New deken feature, create system user folder
by Dan Wilcox 06 Apr '17

06 Apr '17

> On Apr 6, 2017, at 9:22 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > i think the processing analogy also only takes the being-worked-on > documents into account, rather than reusable libraries. Nope, reusable libraries are stored in ~/Documents/Processing/libraries. Same for Arduino. This is mainly because ~/Library is not accessible by regular users whereas one method of adding libraries to Processing is to download a zip and put it’s contents in Processing/libraries. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] oops (did a bad thing in puredata.info)
by Fred Jan Kraan 06 Apr '17

06 Apr '17

Hi, Indeed, something is wrong at https://puredata.info/downloads/cyclone. I tried to recreate the page but it is still reporting a Site Error. Starting from scratch wouldn't be too bad as most data was outdated. But as I said, the download page is mainly for downloading files and some extra info, not as generic as the normal wiki pages. I suppose you have to ask the real admin here, IOhannes, to fix this. Greetings, Fred Jan On 26-03-17 08:52, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > howdy, off list, I'm really sorry to say I screwed up pretty badly and > deleted the "cyclone" project or something when trying to update it in > puredata.info <http://puredata.info> > > I guess we'll have to recreate it somehow, or maybe restore it? I need > help :/ > > sorry :( > > > 2017-03-25 23:39 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com > <mailto:porres@gmail.com>>: > > 2017-03-25 18:07 GMT-03:00 Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan(a)xs4all.nl > <mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl>>: > > > I did add the user 'porres' to the /downloads/cyclone creators > list. Editing should work now. > > > Thanks! > > I tried to add Derek too, let's see if it works as well ;) > > > While editing, I found these pages less flexible than generic > wiki pages. Nowadays for source distribution there is the github > site and for binary distribution there is deken. The best these > pages can do at the moment is point at the right direction... > > > Agreed! > >

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Pd GUI poor performance Win10 Nvida GTX980M
by Matthias Kronlachner 06 Apr '17

06 Apr '17

Hi, I am having a poor GUI performance with Pd under Windows 10 and an Notebook with Nvidia GTX980M graphics card. Starting with an empty patch placing and dragging objects is very laggy. This is the same for Pd-0.47-1, and Pd-extended 0.43.4, therefore I suspect it's a problem with Tcl/Tk? DSP and internal message handling works fine... Does somebody have the same problem or a fix for this? Thanks, Matthias

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A few news - this time it is real ;-)
by Pierre Alexandre Tremblay 06 Apr '17

06 Apr '17

Hello all The news this time with some actual information 1) Port of modest objects After a very interesting stay of Prof Puckette here in Huddersfield, I have been convinced even more of the need of porting my Max objects to Pd and SuperCollider. ipoke~ is done already for Pd although I’m tempted to branch it to be version coherent - I’m considering to do a platform and environment agnostic library. I know about Faust, no need to tell me about it ;-) There is also butt~, a cool dirty filter. 2) once I mastered this, I hope to port the HIRT, especially multiconvolve~ and IRmeasure. (http://eprints.hud.ac.uk/14897/) 3) Should you want to join me in my endeavours, and be paid for it, the 2 jobs as postdocs are still open for a few day (on this project http://www.flucoma.org/) - in doubt apply to both since you can only be considered for the job you apply to. I hope this makes a little more sense… Pa

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A few news
by Pierre Alexandre Tremblay 06 Apr '17

06 Apr '17

Port of modest objects - ipoke~ is done already although I’m tempted to branch it to be version coherent Port of HIRT. Multiconvolve anyone? IRmeasure? 2 jobs - in doubt apply to both since you can only be considered for the job you apply to.

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versions of libraries from extended in deken (was Different versions of iemguts library in Deken)
by Alexandre Torres Porres 06 Apr '17

06 Apr '17

Well, I did check the versions and this is what I got... the ones I couldn't find the version I marked as "not versioned"; and I think they could just be "0.0.1" or something. The one thing I dont get is tof, I couldn't find the version, but there's a new one in deken as 0.2.1, maybe call it 0.2 then? But I wonder how that version name came up... here's tof's git https://github.com/electrickery/pd-tof cheers *library* *version* adaptive 0.1 apple 0.2 arraysize 0.1 bassemu~ 0.3.1 boids 1.1.2 bsaylor 0.1.1 chaos 0.2 comport 0.2 creb 0.9 cxc 0.5.2 cyclone 0.1alpha56 earplug~ 0.2.1 ekext 0.1.1 ext13 0.17.2 extra from pd 0.43 (do we really need this?) flatgui 0.1 freeverb~ 1.2 Gem 0.93.3 gem2pdp 0.7 ggee 0.26 hcs 0.2 hexloader not versioned hid 0.7.1 iem_adaptfilt 1.02 iem_ambi not versioned iem_bin_ambi not versioned iem_delay not versioned iem_roomsim not versioned iem_spec2 not versioned iem_tab not versioned iem16 1.0 iemgui not versioned iemguts 0.1 iemlib not versioned iemmatrix not versioned iemnet 0.1 iemxmlrpc not versioned jasch_lib not versioned jmmmp 0.47 la-kitchen not versioned libdir 1.9 list-abs 0.1-1 log 0.1 mapping 0.2.1 markex 0.86 maxlib 1.5.5 mediasettings 0.1 mjlib 0.1.2 moocow not versioned moonlib 0.2.1 motex 1.1.5 mrpeach 0.1 net 0.1 nsend not versioned osc 0.2 oscx 0.3.1 pan 0.1.2 pd-wavelet not versioned pdcontainer not versioned pddp 0.2.1 pdlua 0.6 pdogg 0.25.2 pdp 0.12.7 pduino 0.5.1 pix_artoolkit not versioned pix_drum not versioned pix_fiducialtrack not versioned pix_mano not versioned plugin~ 0.2.2 pmpd 0.9 purepd 0.1.1 rtc 4.1 sfruit not versioned sigpack 0.43 smlib 0.12.2 syslog 0.1 tclpd 0.3 testtools 0.1 timestretch not versioned tof not versioned unauthorized 0.1 vanilla from pd 0.43 (do we really need this?) vbap 1.0.3.2 windowing 0.1.1 zexy 2.2.4 2017-03-02 16:52 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2017-03-02 16:14 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at>: > >> On 03/02/2017 06:37 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >> > 2017-03-02 6:13 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli <reduzent(a)gmail.com>: >> > >> >> >> >> I thought those are meant to be transitional >> >> packages that don't receive any further maintenance. >> > >> > >> > What do you mean? Some packages are being updated and have newer >> versions, >> > some are abandoned and only have this version from the last >> *pd-extended* >> > up there... but they're not all meant to be either in one group or >> another, >> > and basically anyone can work on an abandoned library and update/upload >> a >> > new version... >> >> i don't see how this workflow is hindered by the current state of affairs. >> >> > >> > Well, if they differ in version, it's good to know which version it is, >> if >> > it's a newer version, an older version, the same version... I think it's >> > really confusing if you do not know the version at all... you just can't >> > compare! And you have to understand that most people looking at it >> cannot >> > really grasp the idea that the package is "from the last extended >> package" >> > - you can see the question from David as an example... >> >> the idea is very simple: >> any package that gets uploaded, should have a version that is higher >> that "0.0extended". >> if they have a higher version number, then deken will sort them *before*. >> the idea of deken is really: the very first link should be the version >> you are looking for. all other links are either outdated versions or for >> different architectures. >> >> any library that is maintained (as in: there is enough interest in it >> that someone wants to do a fresh upload) *should* have a version number >> attached to it. (even if it is just a date-based version). >> practically all libraries *will* have a version that is higher than >> 0.0extended. >> >> > >> > Anyway, seems that deken can take any kind of information and display >> it. I >> > get it that it's nice to have a clue that it's from extended, so, >> instead >> > of "v0.0.extended" why not give it a proper version and also explicitly >> say >> > it's from pd extended? Example suggestion; >> > >> > instead of "*cyclone-v0-0extended*", >> > it could be "*cyclone-v0.1alpha56-pd-extended*" >> > >> > would that be worse somehow? >> > >> >> what's the point of adding "pd-extended" when you have a proper version >> anyhow? >> > > agree, no much point, but I was just trying to meet half way > > >> but i think what roman tried to say is, that your energy could be spent >> much better by uploading updated libraries into deken (with their >> correct versions set), than beating a dead horse. >> and if there are no updated versions, then there are no version numbers >> to compare anyhow. >> > > Not sure if that's what he meant, but what about the idea of changing the > version name of libraries that we know have a proper version other than > v0.0? > > cyclone is one of them... I'd rather cyclone would be listed as > v0.1alpha56 instead of v0-0extended. and I can work on finding out other > library versions as well. I can see some do not have a version at all, > 'moocow' for instance. It only has a "svn" date... it doesn't have any > newer library as well. So, for those, we can just keep it like that, it > makes total sense to mark them as "0.0", and maybe if it ever gets any > attention or updates, it can be versioned as "0.1" and whatever. > > Yeah, seems like a lot of energy to spend, but I don't have much > programming skills, so, as a good latin american, I can offer my cheap > manual labor for you people, it's fine. > > cheers >

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searching for an object
by Pagano, Patrick 06 Apr '17

06 Apr '17

it looks like this >~ does anyone know what library it would reside in? Thank you! Patrick Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Assistant Professor in Residence Digital Media & Design Web & Interactive Technologies University of Connecticut, Stamford (352)-226-2016

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[libPD] Generation of patches
by François Zajéga 05 Apr '17

05 Apr '17

Hello to all, I'm currently bridging puredata and ogre3d via libpd. The whole project is a game engine called polymorph (http://polymorph.cool) I have a question regarding patch generation. I can't find a way to send a patch to pd through a buffer. The only method i found "libpd_openfile" but that requires creating an actual file on the harddrive and passing the path to pd. I would need something like "libpd_newpatch(char*)"... The idea is to be able to build a patch programmatically, on the c++ side, and send it to pd without saving it as a file. Did anyone ever done something like that? Thank in advance! françois z. -- _ (__ | /_ [made with http://www.network-science.de/ascii/]

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[multimodel] inconsistencies in displaying/scaling objects
by Antonio Roberts 05 Apr '17

05 Apr '17

I'm using [multimodel] to load an animation of obj files made Blender. As I play/scrub through the files I noticed that the begin to shift around without me having to use translation or rotation. Below is a video made to illustrate the problem. The actual objects I'm using differ. https://youtu.be/jPzHYZTSwYo When it comes to setting the scale it appears as though it is using the centre point as origin and then expanding to fit the area of the objects. Is there any way to stop this? In other models I've made it seems as though a corner is being set to origin point. Is this something I can address with Pure Data or do I have to do it in Blender? Thanks for any help, Antonio -- ============================ antonio(a)hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ============================

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