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Trying to get GEM going on Pd Vanilla / Win10
by Björn Eriksson 08 Aug '16

08 Aug '16

Hi list! I am trying to get GEM onto Pd Vanilla on a Win10 machine. I have installed both from deken and from http://gem.iem.at/ without particular good result. I get [gemwin] and [gemhead] to be able to be created in patches after I have [declare -stdpath Gem]. One of the problems that are present are that all other Gem objects seems not be able to be created. Like [pix_film], [rotateXYZ] and all the others. When I look in the library installation folder (user\AppData\Roaming\pd\Gem) I cannot see any dll´s from for instance [pix_film] and others, but there is pixfilm-help.pd file nd help files for the others. Maybe this is as it should be, but I am confused. I also tried to get freetype fonts into Pd Vanilla, but I am really unsure on how to do. (this was suggested somewhere that it might be needed). I am searching everywhere for solutions, but I am probably missing out some obvious here. I was even declaring iemlib, as this was some hint I was given in some forum. Now I was thinking in lines of that I might have to compile binaries myself to get it going, but I am stepping over a knowledge threshold there. And I hope there is other solutions out here... Here is some threads I stumbled over in my search - that might be of help to someone: https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/wiki/How-to-build-Gem-on-Microsoft-Windows-… http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/9870/form-extended-to-vanilla http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/6743/how-to-install-externals-libraries… http://gem.iem.at/documentation https://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/support?source=navbar (at same time GEM in Pd Extended is working for me - but I really do want to switch to Pd Vanilla) All the best, Björn Eriksson

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pd 0.47 cnv color msg bug
by Orm Finnendahl 07 Aug '16

07 Aug '16

Hi, in the attached patch, the second argument (the label color) of the "color" message for a canvas is ignored. I'm on 0.47 and it used to work up to version 0.46. -- Orm

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pd 0.47 cnv color msg bug
by Orm Finnendahl 06 Aug '16

06 Aug '16

Hi, in the attached patch, the second argument (the label color) of the "color" message for a canvas is ignored. I'm on 0.47 and it used to work up to version 0.46. -- Orm

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puredata.info cleanup
by Derek Kwan 06 Aug '16

06 Aug '16

Hello, I don't know if this is the proper list for this, I found there is a pdweb mailing list but it looks to be quite inactive so I figure I start the discussion here... I finally got an account on the puredata.info page so I took the liberty of cleaning up/clarifying some of the writing on the front page if nobody minds... I didn't want to do anything drastic, just try to make things less wordy and clear up some things (like move the description of deken to the Pd vanilla bullet, clear up the description of objects and canvases, bold things like operating systems). I don't want to attempt to do anything drastic without consulting the list, but I feel that the front page could use some changing up. When you load up puredata.info, you're immediately hit with this wall of text, which can be quite overwhelming (especially for newbies). Pd-vanilla and Pd-l2ork are featured downloads to the right of the page, but you have to wade through the wall of text to actually figure out what they are. Taking a page (haha, pun) from the processing.org website, it's clearly marked where to download Processing right near the top (in a larger font even, along with a link to tutorials and an object reference guide) with a video above it explaining exactly what Processing is and what it does (and what's new with Processing 3). Granted, historically we've had two main distributions of Pd with vanilla and extended so perhaps there needs to be a little more words explaining which is what (adding on to that, since extended is defunct and l2ork isn't ready for multi-platform yet, would it be helpful just to point everybody to Pd as the main distribution?). Describing Pd and what it does might be shortened up (and perhaps if you want the longer description, make an About link on the sidebar) and perhaps throwing a few pictures and/or visual eye candy while remaining relatively lightweight/datafriendly could help Also, posting the current versions next to the download links (can this be automated?) would be helpful. Summing up, I just think the front page of puredata.info isn't as clear/user-friendly as it could be and it's not particularly helpful in welcoming new users. Thoughts? (Also, how do things get added to the News list? The last entry is from 2015 and things such as Pd updates and the NYC conference on there would be nice.) ===================== Derek Kwan www.derekxkwan.com

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Arbitrary meshes/drawlines in GEM?
by Daniel Iglesia 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

I have (large, e.g. size >512) quickly-varying arrays of data in Pd that I'd like to turn into vertices/lines in GEM. How do I either 1) draw a large mesh (such as with jit.gl.mesh) without having to, for example, specify a [polygon] with 512 inlets or 2) send individual drawline commands to GEM (without having to, for example, use GEMglBegin with 512 GEMglVertex3f objects in a row), e.g. [drawline x y z x y z ( (the only other idea I have is to use a vertex shader and send in lists of point data as a parameter to that, which hopefully doesn't have a bottleneck) thanks for any advice, Dan

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Re: [PD] Experiencing a higher CPU load with 0.47-0 and 0.47-1.
by christof.ressi＠gmx.at 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

Do you want to share your patch? I could test it on my machine with 0.46 and 0.47 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Gesendet: Sonntag, 26 Juni 2016 um 13:27:23 Uhr Von: "Dario Sanfilippo" <sanfilippo.dario(a)gmail.com> An: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at> Betreff: [PD] Experiencing a higher CPU load with 0.47-0 and 0.47-1. Hi, list. I'm loading the same patch with 0.46-7, 0.47-0 and 0.47-1 - all 64bit. The last two have a significantly higher CPU load. I'm on OSX 10.11.5. Has any of you experienced anything similar? I haven't changed my [vd~] objects into [delread4~], are they calling the same piece of code? The patch is almost exclusively using signal objects, have some of these been modified in 0.47-0 and 0.47-1? Thanks for your help. Dario _______________________________________________ Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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sinesum inverse
by Simon Iten 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

dear list, i can create nice wavetables with sinesum. what would be the easiest process to do the inverse? reading a wavetable of known size and converting it to it’s sine harmonics gain structure. fft? i am a little bit lost on how to do this with a wavetable. or is there a simpler way if i know the number of points and the range of the waveform? cheers

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Gem-v0.93.3-(W32)-Deken-pkg
by Lucas Cordiviola 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

Hi IOhannes, Pkg under test: https://puredata.info/downloads/gem/releases/0.93.3/Gem-v0.93.3-(Windows-i3… 3th party Lib dependancy: msvcr71.dll (actually missing in the pkg) Couldn't create objects: gemglutwindow, pix_freeframe, probably a couple more. Lots of CRASHES if opening and closing help patches without doing create and destroy to the gemwin. (on each help) NO CRASHES at ALL if creating/destroying the gemwin on each help. Tested on win8.1 and win10 <--(virtual machine) Please post back when you update the pkg. Salutti, Lucarda. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

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Re: [PD] Externals: which library they belong to and where to download the sources
by David 04 Aug '16

04 Aug '16

Thanks, it works now, after adding the [declare ...]. I also had to remove the folder name from the object itself (eg, [zexy/limiter~]). So I'll have to modify all my patches, at least the ones that use externals. I can live with that, I guess. And I like 'deken' so far, it makes it much easier to install externals. But doesn't that mean that most, if not all, of the help patches for externals are broken now? Because AFAIK, they don't include declares. It's not much work to add them, but someone just learning PD might not know what the problem is. You just expect them to work automatically. David. David, did you [declare -lib zexy] in your patch? > For me it works with Pd 0.47.1 and Win10 so I guess it should work on Win7 > too... > I can put [limiter~] object without errors after declaring library. > > /Björn Eriksson > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:00 PM, David <dfkettle(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Does deken work under Windows (W 7, SP1, 32-bit, in my case)? I just > > installed PD 0.47 to try it (I was using PD 46.7, which doesn't seem to > > have that option, at least in the Windows version). I was able to install > > 'zexy', with no errors reported, but my patch is still getting "couldn't > > create" errors. And the 'limiter~' object is also getting the error > > "limiter~ We need 4 inlets" (this is on the 'limiter~-help' patch!). > > > > Thanks, > > David. > > > > > >> > The last versions are in deken, you may download a package here and > >> there > >> > from Pd-Extended in a git, but you won't find them all via git, and > the > >> > thing is that whatever is being maintained in a git repo (note that > the > >> > most majority of extended packages are unmaintained) surely has the > >> latest > >> > package available in deken. > >> > >> > I just say, don't worry about keeping track of git repos, just chek > >> deken > >> > out... and deken is now part of vanilla, in 0.47-1, just go to "help", > >> "find externals" and get them... > >

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Re: [PD] Externals: which library they belong to and where to download the sources
by David 04 Aug '16

04 Aug '16

Does deken work under Windows (W 7, SP1, 32-bit, in my case)? I just installed PD 0.47 to try it (I was using PD 46.7, which doesn't seem to have that option, at least in the Windows version). I was able to install 'zexy', with no errors reported, but my patch is still getting "couldn't create" errors. And the 'limiter~' object is also getting the error "limiter~ We need 4 inlets" (this is on the 'limiter~-help' patch!). Thanks, David. > > The last versions are in deken, you may download a package here and there > > from Pd-Extended in a git, but you won't find them all via git, and the > > thing is that whatever is being maintained in a git repo (note that the > > most majority of extended packages are unmaintained) surely has the > latest > > package available in deken. > > > I just say, don't worry about keeping track of git repos, just chek deken > > out... and deken is now part of vanilla, in 0.47-1, just go to "help", > "find externals" and get them... > >

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