Pd-list October 2016

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Re: [PD] no audio in pd-vanilla UBUNTU 16.04
by Dan Wilcox 08 Oct '16

08 Oct '16

This has been added in the autotools_updates branch which is basically done, just needs testing on all platforms. It currently fails when building on mingw but works on Linux and OSX. I could use some help with testing and I believe I’ve asked for people to check it out but … *crickets* :) Check it out? https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/tree/autotools_updates <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/tree/autotools_updates> -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On Oct 5, 2016, at 1:59 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > This is not the first time this has caused confusion. Would it be > possible to design ./configure in a way that it prints a Pd > configuration summary _after_ the portaudio configuration summary?

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Re: [PD] Purr Data beta 2
by Dan Wilcox 07 Oct '16

07 Oct '16

> On Oct 6, 2016, at 3:49 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > 1) External developers who want to support purr-data (pd-l2ork) can #ifdef their guis. > 2) For those who don't want to learn a new toolkit, and for unmaintained libraries, it'll be up to purr-data developers. > > Until we have good documentation for integrating pd+nwjs, the first option may only work well for people who have a toe in both pools. I think that's me for cyclone, and I'll be glad to support purr-data directly in the new cyclone library as soon as I have a good chunk of time to do it, and some time to work out the kinks with Jonathan. I know I’ve mentioned it before, but I wish there was a middle ground where the GUI calls were abstracted enough to make these kinds of version/fork specific approaches unnecessary. A possibly solution would be to standardize around the tcl messages that vanilla already uses and provide a way to help parse and translate them into whatever is being used by the GUI implementation. “Draw a box here” and “draw some text”, “draw a line from this point to another point”, and “open this window” are all actions possible in tons of languages and environments, just done in a different syntax. Yeah, it’s probably not super efficient but this mechanism seems to have worked pretty well over the years on older, slower hardware to I’m in favor of proposing sticking to what works as a start. My thought is if we could standardize some of the api interfaces and allow others to be overridable (say the undo/redo mechanisms in a separate .c file) or via default dummy implementations, vanilla/libpd could be uses as the lingua franca core and each variant of Pd adds on it’s extras without diverging. I *really* hope we can talk about this idea in person at the pd con as I still feel that, overall, we should find a way to pool resources more effectively. For instance, Miller keeps the pd core solid & provides a Pd vanilla GUI while pd-l2ork & purr data have their extensions, expanded internals by overriding/extending aspects of the core, and custom GUI implementations. All of this, hopefully, wrapped upon the same core. I think it’s possible, we just have to figure out what kind of architecture would make this possible. Some of this would probably be possible by simply splitting some functions into separate .c files. Forgive me if this has already been talked to death, but I have a feeling it hasn’t so far... Relatedly, I’d like to be able to add an editing GUI to PdParty and have thoughts on making a console-based ncurses GUI for pd. That would be alot easier with the knowledge and help of those of you to wrap the GUI comm via a libpd api instead of me basically reverse engineering things myself. I’d rather be lazy and use the shared knowledge that is one of the best parts about open source. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] purr data beta1
by Dan Wilcox 07 Oct '16

07 Oct '16

> On Sep 30, 2016, at 2:45 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > unfortunately I'm not the one to ask, I don't know anything about android. I was asking because I'm (hopefully) doing a big project which I would like to do in Pd, and it might have to run on independent apps. it would be very nice to use only one flavour of Pd for it, and not to use vanilla. Currently your options on Android and iOS are: 1. use libpd (based on vanilla) 2. nothing :) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Reblocking Issue
by Christof Ressi 07 Oct '16

07 Oct '16

Hi, while working on a new project I found something which looks like a bug. Basically, [bang~] + [timer] doesn't work correctly in a reblocked subpatch if the blocksize is *smaller* than the one in the parent subpatch. Other objects, like [print~] work fine... Pd 47.1, Windows 7 Christof

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Exact RAM size of arrays
by Martin Hiendl 07 Oct '16

07 Oct '16

Dear list, I have a quick question: For a looper/ringbuffer patch I'm using a couple of hundred arrays with a size of something between 4-7 seconds (at 44.1k) each. How can I calculate exactly how much RAM one buffer occupies, so that I'm not overloading my machine? Is it the same size of a wav file? Thanks Martin

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gem repo
by Jonathan Wilkes 06 Oct '16

06 Oct '16

Hi list,Where is the canonical Gem repository? What is the most recent stable version or commit known to work on OSX, Windows, and Gnu/Linux? Thanks, Jonathan

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Using large numbers with [text set]
by Liam Goodacre 06 Oct '16

06 Oct '16

The help file for [text set] instructs us to use large numbers for the second inlet (ie. 1e+006) to append a line of text. But for numbers above 1e+010, it seems to stop working, giving the error message: text set: line number (-2147483648) < 0 I wouldn't call this much of a problem as I don't imagine that anyone needs to append more than 10,000,000,000 lines of text. But I am curious, why would this large number be interpreted as a negative?

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Meta Data in a PD file
by José Rafael Subía Valdez 06 Oct '16

06 Oct '16

I dont know if it has been discussed, I have searched the archives but didnt find anything simliar. would there be a way to write a META DATA section at the end of a .pd file? I guess this is more of a request. But what if there was a META DATA section available to record things that would be "binded" (don't know if "bound" is the word) to the file. Maybe this could be an open - available- part of the pd file for users. I have been trying to do this in PD by simply writing at the end of the file and then with the [text] object or any similar go to the section where I would have my meta data. The problem is that pd erases this section when saving the file. thoughts? -- José Rafael Subía Valdez www.jrsv.net

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Ubuntu Xenial repo not found
by enrike 06 Oct '16

06 Oct '16

hi I am running Ubuntu Xenial with Pd 0.46.7 and I wanted to check if there was an update but it seems like the Xenial repo is not available any longer. $ sudo aptitude update Ign http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial InRelease Ign http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial Release Err http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found Ign http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial/main i386 Packages Ign http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial/main all Packages Ign http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial/main Translation-eu_ES Ign http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial/main Translation-eu Ign http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial/main Translation-en Ign http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata Ign http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial/main DEP-11 64x64 Icons W: The repository 'http://apt.puredata.info/releases xenial Release' does not have a Release file. is this install method not working and PD needs to be compile from source? https://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian thanks! enrike

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iemguts outdated on Deken
by Liam Goodacre 06 Oct '16

06 Oct '16

Last time I checked, Deken had an outdated version of iemguts. Since iemguts now includes [initbang], it would be nice if this were made available to Vanilla users without having to manually download and install. Is it possible to update Deken to the latest version from the git?

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