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[PD-announce] Xth Sense Biophysical Music NYC workshop, make your own biowearable - Oct. 4-5
by Marco Donnarumma 26 Sep '14

26 Sep '14

(apologies for any x-post) HYPHEN HUB WORKSHOPS Xth Sense™ - Biophysical Music with Marco Donnarumma Make your own low-cost biowearable for interactive music and video OCTOBER 4TH - 5TH 2014, NEW YORK This weekend course offers hands-on experience and theoretical training in the performance of biophysical music and visuals with the wearable instrument Xth Sense™ (XS). Workshop participants will build from scratch their own XS biosensors, then learn how to analyze and map the sound and data from their muscle, blood flow and body movements to generate music, visuals, and do live processing of sound. Attention will also be paid to aesthetic considerations when using the XS system in artistic contexts. At the end of the workshop, participants will take home the XS bioacoustic sensors they built, and the related software for their own continued creative use. Some topics covered in the workshop include: - Theoretical background on the state of art of gestural control of music - Introduction to the Xth Sense (XS) framework (technical overview, capabilities) - Building the biosensor - An introduction to the open source artistic programming language PureData, tips and tricks for using PureData in live settings - Explorations of bioacoustic sound design capabilities - Building audio modules and signal processing chains - Aesthetics of bioacoustic sensor-based performance - Mapping muscle energy to control values and real-time processing - Designing an aesthetic vocabulary for body-sensor performance ABOUT THE XTH SENSE The Xth Sense™ (2010-14) is a free and open biophysical technology. With it you can produce music with the sound of your body. The XS captures sounds from heart, blood and muscles and uses them to integrate the human body with a digital interactive system for sound and video production. In 2012, it was named the “world’s most innovative new musical instrument” and awarded the first prize in the Margaret Guthman New Musical Instrument Competition by the Georgia Tech Center for Music Technology (US). Today, the Xth Sense is used by a steadily growing community of creatives, ranging from performing artists and musicians, to researchers in physiotherapy and prosthetics, and universities and students in diverse fields. @xthsense http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/projects/xth-sense/ DETAILS REGISTER AT: http://www.eventbrite.com/e/xth-sensetm-biophysical-music-workshop-with-mar… DATE: 4-5 OCTOBER, 2014 TIME: 11AM-5PM COST: Regular: $280, Members & Students (with ID): $250 (+ $40 Materials Cost) Registrants are reminded to bring the $40 for the materials cost in cash to the workshop. MAXIMUM PARTICIPANTS: 10 CONTACT FOR QUESTIONS: mark(a)hyphenhub.com LOCATION: The Red Door, 140 West 24th Street, New York (between 6th and 7th ave) COMPLETE WORKSHOP INFO: http://marcodonnarumma.com/teaching/xth-sense-biophysical-music/ INSTRUCTOR Italian-born Marco Donnarumma is a performer, musician, sonic artist and writer based in London and New York City. He has performed, spoken and taught in over 50 countries worldwide for leading festivals, institutions, media labs and universities, such as Sonar+D, Festival Transmediale, FILE, New York Electronic Arts Festival, RPM Sound Art China, ISEA, Stanford CCRMA and STEIM, to name a few. His practice is considered a conceptually elaborated combination of physical actions, intense sonic experiences and forceful sensorial stimulation. His work has been featured on BBC, Forbes, Reuters, ARTE.TV, Wired, RTVE and ResonanceFM, amongst the others. Full bio and CV: http://marcodonnarumma.com/bio/ wishing you well, -- Marco Donnarumma Performer, body tinkerer, teacher and writer. #soundandmusic #biotech #freeculture EAVI - Goldsmiths, University of London ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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help- using an ultrasound distance sensor
by Sujay Mukherjee 26 Sep '14

26 Sep '14

Hi, I am having trouble in using the ultrasound distance sensor with the arduino board. the model is HC_SRO4 and has a vcc- trigger- echo and gnd pins. i am trying to get distances out of it while most online tutorials that i am checking is putting the echo and trigger into digital pins of the arduino board but my problem is if so how do I write the patch in pduino to get the distance.) I am using the pduino test patch to do the interactions but can't figure out how to generate numbers through a digital input. or should I put the echo/trigger pin into the analog input pins ? I have also tried to put the Echo into the analog pins of the arduino board but doing so is not providing any number except flickering at 0.00 Please help me out in sorting this to get an analog input i am using the message- analogIns 2 $1 going to the arduino object and the route objects coming out of it but can't get much I also tried using trigger pin as an output pin to send a signal and an echo pin as an anolog input pin to receive the signal but ofcourse without any sucess. please suggest Thanks Sujay

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External/Abstraction Repository (was Pd-extended)
by Max 25 Sep '14

25 Sep '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The discussion about the Pd-extended reanimation left one question open: What exactly is it, that people miss in vanilla compared to extended? Is it the inclusion of a whole lot of externals and abstractions in one package? Debian/Ubuntu/Mint users already have an easy access to all those, because many of them have been packaged. A possible implementation to bring the same convenience to the other platforms would be a kind of a repository in Pd itself. A lot of softwares do that. Think of: browser add-ons, eclipse packages, atom modules, the node.js package manager or Processing.org libraries. In Pd this may even be a GUI-Plugin that allows for searching in meta information added to the Pd externals/abstractions on sourceforge. And a click to download and install them. If you open a patch with an unknown object in it, the plugin could offer you to search for it in the repository. Just an idea. 0.5ct. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEUEARECAAYFAlQiLIIACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6KMHQCeKmbleZyIbhtGmQXu9IxonoTG mwIAli0UgiBA22oaZARevQeRPVlyZeI= =fovn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [PD] Updated pd-extended
by Dan Wilcox 25 Sep '14

25 Sep '14

I talked to Hans about this a bit. In essence, it involves bringing in the new pd vanilla source and making sure the Pd-extended additions/modifications aren't lost. With the updates/cleanups to the tcl/tk sources a few years ago (great work Hans et al!), it should be alot easier than the previous extended releases. But still, *easy* or not, it involves time. On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended > Date: September 20, 2014 at 5:02:59 PM EDT > To: Billy Stiltner <billy.stiltner(a)gmail.com> > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> > > > I wish I knew something about coding to help out with its development :P I do care a lot about it though and wish I could help in some other way. > > I do see a few problems with extended, but they're basically related to some of the externals and libraries that sometimes do not work as they should, have bad and messy help files and are sometimes redundanct. If welcome, I could help sharing my thoughts and two cents about that, but I realize those are not actual bug fixes regarding the code, so it's not a priority on its to do list and issues for being updated to another release. > > Anyway, while were at it, what kind of work exactly do you mean someone would have to do? I suppose there is a great list of bug fixes just to keep it basically what it is. Given the context, I'm not assuming any big to do list for some new features agenda. But besidesthe bug fixes, how hard is it for someone to just update to the latest vanilla core? > > Well, since Pd is an open source project that relies on community effort, and this is the list of its main developers and users, I guess this is the place to talk about a collaboration and see if we can get Pd-extended's development > to continue. > > I'd to help in any way I can. > > Cheers -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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Pd-Extended_0.43.4 with 64-bit Mac OSX 10.8.5
by Francis Derive 25 Sep '14

25 Sep '14

Bonjour list ! A Pd/Pd-extended starter here - "0.43.4" and "10.8.5" is not mandatory, however increasing with life. So, no luck launching the 64-bit binary or compiling the 64-bit source. 1) Launching Pd-extended.app issued from "Pd-0.43.4-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg" gives : > /Users/fdiMac/fdiMac apps/AUDIO apps/Pure Data/Pd-extended 64bit.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Users/fdiMac/fdiMac apps/AUDIO apps/Pure Data/Pd-extended 64bit.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: _TclFreeObj > > Referenced from: /Users/fdiMac/fdiMac apps/AUDIO apps/Pure Data/Pd-extended 64bit.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin > > Expected in: dynamic lookup 2) Compiling from source "Pd-extended_0.43.4-source.tar.bz2" (Xcode 5.0.2 installed): From the pd directory I ran - according to INSTALL.txt : first : "./autogen.sh" without error, then : "./configure" : > ➜ pd ./configure > checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c > checking whether build environment is sane... yes > checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... m4/config/install-sh -c -d > checking for gawk... no > checking for mawk... no > checking for nawk... no > checking for awk... awk > checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes > checking whether make supports nested variables... yes > checking build system type... i386-apple-darwin12.5.0 > checking host system type... i386-apple-darwin12.5.0 > configure: iPhone SDK only available for arm-apple-darwin hosts, skipping tests > configure: Android SDK only available for arm-linux hosts, skipping tests > checking for style of include used by make... GNU > checking for gcc... gcc > checking whether the C compiler works... no > configure: error: in `/Users/fdiMac/Documents/DEV/BUILDS/PD/pd-extended_0.43.4/pd': > configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables > See `config.log' for more details which gave a Mac OS X Clang error window which I submitted as well as I could to Apple, but I would like to let the interested somebody here to examine the config.log. May be this part of the Configure.log should be enough to paste here : > ## ----------- ## > ## Core tests. ## > ## ----------- ## > > configure:2520: checking for a BSD-compatible install > configure:2588: result: /usr/bin/install -c > configure:2599: checking whether build environment is sane > configure:2654: result: yes > configure:2805: checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p > configure:2844: result: m4/config/install-sh -c -d > configure:2851: checking for gawk > configure:2881: result: no > configure:2851: checking for mawk > configure:2881: result: no > configure:2851: checking for nawk > configure:2881: result: no > configure:2851: checking for awk > configure:2867: found /usr/bin/awk > configure:2878: result: awk > configure:2889: checking whether make sets $(MAKE) > configure:2911: result: yes > configure:2940: checking whether make supports nested variables > configure:2957: result: yes > configure:3088: checking build system type > configure:3102: result: i386-apple-darwin12.5.0 > configure:3122: checking host system type > configure:3135: result: i386-apple-darwin12.5.0 > configure:3180: iPhone SDK only available for arm-apple-darwin hosts, skipping tests > configure:3277: Android SDK only available for arm-linux hosts, skipping tests > configure:3434: checking for style of include used by make > configure:3462: result: GNU > configure:3533: checking for gcc > configure:3549: found /usr/bin/gcc > configure:3560: result: gcc > configure:3789: checking for C compiler version > configure:3798: gcc --version >&5 > Apple LLVM version 5.0 (clang-500.2.79) (based on LLVM 3.3svn) > Target: x86_64-apple-darwin12.5.0 > Thread model: posix > Configured with: --prefix=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1 > configure:3809: $? = 0 > configure:3798: gcc -v >&5 > Configured with: --prefix=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1 > Apple LLVM version 5.0 (clang-500.2.79) (based on LLVM 3.3svn) > Target: x86_64-apple-darwin12.5.0 > Thread model: posix > configure:3809: $? = 0 > configure:3798: gcc -V >&5 > clang: error: argument to '-V' is missing (expected 1 value) > clang: error: no input files > configure:3809: $? = 1 > configure:3798: gcc -qversion >&5 > clang: error: no input files > configure:3809: $? = 1 > configure:3829: checking whether the C compiler works > configure:3851: gcc -O3 -funroll-loops -L/sw/lib conftest.c >&5 > 0 clang 0x00000001017b9c3f main + 24869327 > 1 clang 0x00000001017b9f64 main + 24870132 > 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff94f2a90a _sigtramp + 26 > 3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff67798c00 _sigtramp + 3532055312 > 4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x0000000101c4377e _sigtramp + 1825672846 > 5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x0000000101c470a7 _sigtramp + 1825687479 > Stack dump: > 0. Program arguments: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/clang -cc1 -triple x86_64-apple-macosx10.8.0 -emit-obj -disable-free -disable-llvm-verifier -main-file-name conftest.c -mrelocation-model pic -pic-level 2 -mdisable-fp-elim -masm-verbose -munwind-tables -target-cpu core2 -target-linker-version 224.1 -resource-dir /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/../lib/clang/5.0 -O3 -fdebug-compilation-dir /Users/fdiMac/Documents/DEV/BUILDS/PD/pd-extended_0.43.4/pd -ferror-limit 19 -fmessage-length 0 -funroll-loops -stack-protector 1 -mstackrealign -fblocks -fobjc-runtime=macosx-10.8.0 -fobjc-dispatch-method=mixed -fobjc-default-synthesize-properties -fencode-extended-block-signature -fdiagnostics-show-option -o /var/folders/15/y_tcb4rj5h5376l0g33rtm9w0000gn/T/conftest-R9LmgD.o -x c conftest.c > clang: error: unable to execute command: Segmentation fault: 11 > clang: error: clang frontend command failed due to signal (use -v to see invocation) > Apple LLVM version 5.0 (clang-500.2.79) (based on LLVM 3.3svn) > Target: x86_64-apple-darwin12.5.0 > Thread model: posix > clang: note: diagnostic msg: PLEASE submit a bug report to http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/ and include the crash backtrace, preprocessed source, and associated run script. > clang: error: unable to execute command: Segmentation fault: 11 > clang: note: diagnostic msg: Error generating preprocessed source(s). > configure:3855: $? = 254 > configure:3893: result: no > configure: failed program was: > | /* confdefs.h */ > | #define PACKAGE_NAME "pd" > | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "pd" > | #define PACKAGE_VERSION "0.43.1" > | #define PACKAGE_STRING "pd 0.43.1" > | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "" > | #define PACKAGE_URL "" > | #define PACKAGE "pd" > | #define VERSION "0.43.1" > | /* end confdefs.h. */ > | > | int > | main () > | { > | > | ; > | return 0; > | } > configure:3898: error: in `/Users/fdiMac/Documents/DEV/BUILDS/PD/pd-extended_0.43.4/pd': > configure:3900: error: C compiler cannot create executables > See `config.log' for more details > Thanks a lot for helping in both directions.

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Pd-extended for ARM - where to find the latest versions
by Ingo 25 Sep '14

25 Sep '14

I'm looking for the latest builds of Pd-extended for ARM (Cubietruck). I was checking "Index of /auto-build/latest" http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ but there's nothing since 9 months. I'm looking for a version that would run on Lubuntu 12.04. Anything from 0.42.5 up should be working fine for me. I tried adding deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases precise main to /etc/apt/sources.list and did "apt-get update" It won't install from there using "apt-get install pd-extended". Any help or download link is appreciated! Thanks Ingo

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Updated pd-extended
by Alessio Degani 25 Sep '14

25 Sep '14

Hi List, I'm new to this list, but a long time user of PD. There is a way to keep pd-extended aligned to the current stable release of pd-vanilla? I've noticed that pd-extend carries a quite old version of pd, and no updates in a while. The official web pages, says that a rolling-release pd-extend is on working, but again, no updates since alpha released on 01/02/2013 (if I'm not wrong). Is there a simple'n dirty way to assembly pd-extended from pd-vanilla by myself? Thanks -- a.

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Re: [PD] getdir
by Dan Wilcox 24 Sep '14

24 Sep '14

Or better yet: https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/svn/HEAD/tree/trunk/externals/ggee/cont… and for good measure: https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/svn/HEAD/tree/trunk/externals/ggee/cont… AKA existing solutions which already work :D I just need something like those in vanilla/libpd. This is basically because I can't call "pd open /path/to pathch.pd" with a relative path to the current canvas ... On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:40 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > From: Billy Stiltner <billy.stiltner(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] iemlib from synaptic is missing filter~ and others like iem_cot4~ > Date: September 23, 2014 at 7:40:05 PM EDT > To: Dan Wilcox <danomatika(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu>, "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12489/how-do-you-get-a-directory-listing… > > > here is how I done it on NT long ago -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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A way to query the current platform
by Chris McCormick 24 Sep '14

24 Sep '14

Hi Miller, Now that Pd is running on diverse platforms and variants, it would be very useful to have a generic interface that a patch can use to query the current platform. Something like sending a "getinfo" message to the pd object which would send back e.g.: list osx vanilla pure-data list linux pd-l2ork pure-data list ios zengarden list android droidparty libpd pure-data The use-case for this is things like: * On Android, audio latency is high and needs to be factored in by patches. * A patch that wants to load a text file might need to use a different path delimiter on linux versus windows. What are your thoughts on this? I am assuming the Pd-l2ork fellows will pipe up with some already implemented solution. :) Cheers, Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/

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running vanilla with Tcl 8.5 on OSX
by Dan Wilcox 24 Sep '14

24 Sep '14

Does anyone know how I can clue Pd-vanilla in on using Tcl 8.5 instead of 8.4? I tried changing the require version in pd-gui.tcl but no dice: version conflict for package "Tcl": have 8.4, need 8.5 while executing "package require Tcl 8.5" OSX 10.8 has both 8.4 & 8.5 built in and it seems the default tclsh points to the 8.5 install, but it seems the method Pd uses to find Tcl & Wish.app end up choosing 8.4 instead. Anyway, I'm asking mainly because with 8.5 you can get "retina" screen enabled fonts which are nice and crisp as opposed to Pd's current blurry fonts. I remember trying this about 6 months ago after I got the machine but ran into the same problem and moved on. Would be nice to provide a patch and some info on how to make it work. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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