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Pd-Extended_0.43.4 with 64-bit Mac OSX 10.8.5
by Francis Derive 25 Sep '14

25 Sep '14

Bonjour list ! A Pd/Pd-extended starter here - "0.43.4" and "10.8.5" is not mandatory, however increasing with life. So, no luck launching the 64-bit binary or compiling the 64-bit source. 1) Launching Pd-extended.app issued from "Pd-0.43.4-extended-macosx106-x86_64.dmg" gives : > /Users/fdiMac/fdiMac apps/AUDIO apps/Pure Data/Pd-extended 64bit.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Users/fdiMac/fdiMac apps/AUDIO apps/Pure Data/Pd-extended 64bit.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: _TclFreeObj > > Referenced from: /Users/fdiMac/fdiMac apps/AUDIO apps/Pure Data/Pd-extended 64bit.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_darwin > > Expected in: dynamic lookup 2) Compiling from source "Pd-extended_0.43.4-source.tar.bz2" (Xcode 5.0.2 installed): From the pd directory I ran - according to INSTALL.txt : first : "./autogen.sh" without error, then : "./configure" : > ➜ pd ./configure > checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c > checking whether build environment is sane... yes > checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... m4/config/install-sh -c -d > checking for gawk... no > checking for mawk... no > checking for nawk... no > checking for awk... awk > checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes > checking whether make supports nested variables... yes > checking build system type... i386-apple-darwin12.5.0 > checking host system type... i386-apple-darwin12.5.0 > configure: iPhone SDK only available for arm-apple-darwin hosts, skipping tests > configure: Android SDK only available for arm-linux hosts, skipping tests > checking for style of include used by make... GNU > checking for gcc... gcc > checking whether the C compiler works... no > configure: error: in `/Users/fdiMac/Documents/DEV/BUILDS/PD/pd-extended_0.43.4/pd': > configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables > See `config.log' for more details which gave a Mac OS X Clang error window which I submitted as well as I could to Apple, but I would like to let the interested somebody here to examine the config.log. May be this part of the Configure.log should be enough to paste here : > ## ----------- ## > ## Core tests. ## > ## ----------- ## > > configure:2520: checking for a BSD-compatible install > configure:2588: result: /usr/bin/install -c > configure:2599: checking whether build environment is sane > configure:2654: result: yes > configure:2805: checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p > configure:2844: result: m4/config/install-sh -c -d > configure:2851: checking for gawk > configure:2881: result: no > configure:2851: checking for mawk > configure:2881: result: no > configure:2851: checking for nawk > configure:2881: result: no > configure:2851: checking for awk > configure:2867: found /usr/bin/awk > configure:2878: result: awk > configure:2889: checking whether make sets $(MAKE) > configure:2911: result: yes > configure:2940: checking whether make supports nested variables > configure:2957: result: yes > configure:3088: checking build system type > configure:3102: result: i386-apple-darwin12.5.0 > configure:3122: checking host system type > configure:3135: result: i386-apple-darwin12.5.0 > configure:3180: iPhone SDK only available for arm-apple-darwin hosts, skipping tests > configure:3277: Android SDK only available for arm-linux hosts, skipping tests > configure:3434: checking for style of include used by make > configure:3462: result: GNU > configure:3533: checking for gcc > configure:3549: found /usr/bin/gcc > configure:3560: result: gcc > configure:3789: checking for C compiler version > configure:3798: gcc --version >&5 > Apple LLVM version 5.0 (clang-500.2.79) (based on LLVM 3.3svn) > Target: x86_64-apple-darwin12.5.0 > Thread model: posix > Configured with: --prefix=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1 > configure:3809: $? = 0 > configure:3798: gcc -v >&5 > Configured with: --prefix=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1 > Apple LLVM version 5.0 (clang-500.2.79) (based on LLVM 3.3svn) > Target: x86_64-apple-darwin12.5.0 > Thread model: posix > configure:3809: $? = 0 > configure:3798: gcc -V >&5 > clang: error: argument to '-V' is missing (expected 1 value) > clang: error: no input files > configure:3809: $? = 1 > configure:3798: gcc -qversion >&5 > clang: error: no input files > configure:3809: $? = 1 > configure:3829: checking whether the C compiler works > configure:3851: gcc -O3 -funroll-loops -L/sw/lib conftest.c >&5 > 0 clang 0x00000001017b9c3f main + 24869327 > 1 clang 0x00000001017b9f64 main + 24870132 > 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff94f2a90a _sigtramp + 26 > 3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff67798c00 _sigtramp + 3532055312 > 4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x0000000101c4377e _sigtramp + 1825672846 > 5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x0000000101c470a7 _sigtramp + 1825687479 > Stack dump: > 0. Program arguments: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/clang -cc1 -triple x86_64-apple-macosx10.8.0 -emit-obj -disable-free -disable-llvm-verifier -main-file-name conftest.c -mrelocation-model pic -pic-level 2 -mdisable-fp-elim -masm-verbose -munwind-tables -target-cpu core2 -target-linker-version 224.1 -resource-dir /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/../lib/clang/5.0 -O3 -fdebug-compilation-dir /Users/fdiMac/Documents/DEV/BUILDS/PD/pd-extended_0.43.4/pd -ferror-limit 19 -fmessage-length 0 -funroll-loops -stack-protector 1 -mstackrealign -fblocks -fobjc-runtime=macosx-10.8.0 -fobjc-dispatch-method=mixed -fobjc-default-synthesize-properties -fencode-extended-block-signature -fdiagnostics-show-option -o /var/folders/15/y_tcb4rj5h5376l0g33rtm9w0000gn/T/conftest-R9LmgD.o -x c conftest.c > clang: error: unable to execute command: Segmentation fault: 11 > clang: error: clang frontend command failed due to signal (use -v to see invocation) > Apple LLVM version 5.0 (clang-500.2.79) (based on LLVM 3.3svn) > Target: x86_64-apple-darwin12.5.0 > Thread model: posix > clang: note: diagnostic msg: PLEASE submit a bug report to http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/ and include the crash backtrace, preprocessed source, and associated run script. > clang: error: unable to execute command: Segmentation fault: 11 > clang: note: diagnostic msg: Error generating preprocessed source(s). > configure:3855: $? = 254 > configure:3893: result: no > configure: failed program was: > | /* confdefs.h */ > | #define PACKAGE_NAME "pd" > | #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "pd" > | #define PACKAGE_VERSION "0.43.1" > | #define PACKAGE_STRING "pd 0.43.1" > | #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "" > | #define PACKAGE_URL "" > | #define PACKAGE "pd" > | #define VERSION "0.43.1" > | /* end confdefs.h. */ > | > | int > | main () > | { > | > | ; > | return 0; > | } > configure:3898: error: in `/Users/fdiMac/Documents/DEV/BUILDS/PD/pd-extended_0.43.4/pd': > configure:3900: error: C compiler cannot create executables > See `config.log' for more details > Thanks a lot for helping in both directions.

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Pd-extended for ARM - where to find the latest versions
by Ingo 25 Sep '14

25 Sep '14

I'm looking for the latest builds of Pd-extended for ARM (Cubietruck). I was checking "Index of /auto-build/latest" http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ but there's nothing since 9 months. I'm looking for a version that would run on Lubuntu 12.04. Anything from 0.42.5 up should be working fine for me. I tried adding deb http://apt.puredata.info/releases precise main to /etc/apt/sources.list and did "apt-get update" It won't install from there using "apt-get install pd-extended". Any help or download link is appreciated! Thanks Ingo

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Re: [PD] slider bug <vslider, hslider>
by Jonghyun Kim 04 Sep '14

04 Sep '14

Hi Ivica, you mean this isn't a bug? ok I see. I hope to know another object on Pd, the value pass through. On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Ivica Bukvic <ico(a)vt.edu> wrote: > This is the way vanilla pd sliders work, they recalculate value based on > slider position. One option to avoid this problem is to use pd-l2ork where > the values passed through sliders remain unchanged... > On Jan 15, 2014 8:23 PM, "Jonghyun Kim" <agitato816(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> I think, I found a bug on slider<vsl, hsl> >> >> When I modify the size of vslider, width and height, it comes strange. >> >> >> Normally, when I input integer, output is integer. I know there is no >> integer in Pd but, I say as integer. >> >> >> Here is strange thing >> >> —————————— >> >> <strange> >> >> input (integer) >> >> | >> >> s $0-slider >> >> >> r $0-slider >> >> | >> >> vslider (modified height and width) >> >> | >> >> number box2 >> >> | >> >> output (float) >> >> ————————— >> >> >> Pd-0.45-4 (32bit) Vanilla >> >> OS X 10.9 Mavericks >> >> >> I attached Pd file >> >> >> Is this bug? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jong >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >>

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Re: [PD] comments with trailing | ?
by Peter P. 25 Aug '14

25 Aug '14

Dear IOhannes, dear Jonathan, dear list, I feel ashamed (and old-fashioned) as I have not seen this new feature of Pd as a feature I am afraid. Thanks for pointing it out to me. I think it is a nice addon, but also wonder if there is a nice way to disable this functionality at all. Is there an easy way to do it, or to diff the source files of Pd accordingly? Thank you again, best, P

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acid
by Chris McCormick 14 Aug '14

14 Aug '14

Hi, Another question in a very general vein. I asked this on the Csound list a while back (when i was using csound) with good results. I'm trying to produce an acidy type sound (eg 303) and having trouble as my current saw-tooth-through-a-vcf just sounds pretty wimpy. Any ideas on how to fatten it up a bit? I'm not looking for a perfect reproduction of the 303 sound, just a nice acid sound. Hints? Tips? Is there some place where people post interesting Pd patches they've created for others to download at try out? Should there be? Regards, Chris. ______________________________________________________ Chris McCormick - Systems Developer - PerthWeb Pty Ltd Internet Solutions for your business! Level 9/105 St George's Tc - Perth - Western Australia Ph: (08) 9226 1366 Fax: (08) 9226 1375 Visit Perth online! : www.perthweb.com.au PGP Key = http://www.perthweb.com.au/~chris/public.txt

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arrays in GOP abstraction, show up in parent patch
by Jaime E Oliver 11 Aug '14

11 Aug '14

Hi all, The title says it all, I have some arrays in abstractions and any new value input into the array is also graphed in the parent patch. This happens in OS X 10.8.5 w/latest pd. It does not happen with 0.42-5. testing patch attached. best, J

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oops: ALSA cards not reported in order?
by Peter P. 04 Aug '14

04 Aug '14

Hi! Pd 0.45.0 informs me at startup that "oops: ALSA cards not reported in order?" while all seems to work normally. I also have this: cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xf8220000 irq 45 29 [ThinkPadEC ]: ThinkPad EC - ThinkPad Console Audio Control ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, What does the above warning try to tell me? best, Peter

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[bp~] really equal to [vcf~]?
by Alexandre Torres Porres 25 Jul '14

25 Jul '14

Hi there, who can confirm that both [bp~] and [vcf~] are exactly the really same thingy? The code looks quite different... Moreover, why the two outlets for vcf~? Help doesn't say anything. Thanks

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[PD-announce] yahoo rejecting pd-posts
by IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) 21 Jul '14

21 Jul '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 dear Pd junkies, recently, yahoo (and later aol) has implemented a strict spam-preventing scheme, that basically prevents mailinglists like yours truly from doing their work [1]. this scheme basically disallows re-distribution of emails from people with yahoo-accounts. you (esp. if you are using yahoo yourself, but gmail users might be affected as well) might have noticed, that some mailing-list posts have gone missing (esp. when originating from other yahoo users). a possibly missing email can be found at [2]. this is *not* a hostile attempt from our side (your faithful iem-team) to censor the mailinglist(s). we are currently investigating ways to mitigate the problem [3], but haven't found an acceptable /and/ working technical solution yet. if possible, we would like to suggest all posters using yahoo-addresses, to consider switching to another (free)mail-provider - - if only for the purpose of posting emails to innocent mailinglists. if we do not find a solution fast, we might be forced to *temporarily* disable posting from yahoo-addresses (but will try avoid this step as long as possible, and if forced to use it keep it as short as possible). yours, fgasmdr IOhannes [1] http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html [2 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2014-05/106991.html [3] http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=17891458 - -- IEM - network operation center mailto:noc@iem.at -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJThIvKAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4N3gP/0fcSMAI6IreSxcDlqWnL8h0 iNXIf0hMZGSNf6hcSN4zfgzNoUFtPV+f6HEcIXdYK6OR8Yymwgi31orunX6YWl1a xQYxgYsQ2L7a/JTvZSkgO2/HPtuGT83fzf9P43eJlSt47wVRloEphOe0tts4iObU NGsFHk/FUXfzGvmQA3RRFUFu+6GVsDA27EdHuJybBiMfbfL9WEqIcps9fvMF3ck5 ujw9SnnLKWqGVp2qImU4CW8DvbJr9WNzHQKNv/qAqYSYJepI7bqDUZuTR/+gjHzF PYKuu1g8+vRwemGkZJ9g+YSrt7cpG6xS8MOIFRmzNcjckh4BdRNtRqT0gEfpLjEd Qy7aYHpBbZVRDCJPIGPFhKScvKHjWEyNs5DWQ1EyVqt7240wnVQCC6KtIKtEOs1F E6LS62p3pg9dwT67fqEaMVU6VPN5/UFAm0478paICL73PwT2YcYDh6mf7Rri9io4 2XAFIi1QRqv4Arn87x323dn8ihXQN2hz2PZQkY9DXlN6CEMt8AOZe7oVmnWWrMEt 6rvj9vKnjT6Odj+cd0Ny/OWGq3nMP9ARLzQyoFtJzheM3ASvROGGqT+RJuHKLiBM hZ2p0Q6dbQeLsx37f7xdNhlK0CQgUjwJjD6kggLcCXpu5IFehZniwmvIyTok6QB+ qrWUMA2lNFl8GeVHBiDr =JzQK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[lop~] coefficient calculation
by Joe White 19 Jul '14

19 Jul '14

Hi, I've been looking at the [lop~] implementation (Pd-0.45-4) and noticed something that seem weird to me. In d_filter, line 176: static void siglop_ft1(t_siglop *x, t_floatarg f) { if (f < 0) f = 0; x->x_hz = f; x->x_ctl->c_coef = f * (2 * 3.14159) / x->x_sr; if (x->x_ctl->c_coef > 1) x->x_ctl->c_coef = 1; else if (x->x_ctl->c_coef < 0) x->x_ctl->c_coef = 0; } Is it correct that for: y[n] = x[n] * a + y[n-1] * b *a = 2π * Fc / Fs* b = 1.0 - a where Fc is the cut-off frequency and Fs the sampling frequency. I appreciate the a coefficient is bounded afterwards but wouldn't that mean that Fc values greater than Fs / 2π will have no impact on the sound being processed. For example if Fs is 44100, then Fc values above ~7020Hz will not affect the filter. Have I missed something crucial or could this a bug in the code? The simple IIR filter described in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-pass_filter suggests that the actual coefficient calculation should be more like: a = 2π*Fc / (2π*Fc + Fs) Looking forward to understand this more! Cheers, Joe -- Follow me on Twitter @diplojocus

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