Pd-list July 2013

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Re: [PD] store value of any type
by yvan volochine 04 Jul '13

04 Jul '13

On 04/07/13 22:54, Miller Puckette wrote: > Relly - you can make a [text] object but help comes up empty? > > There should be a file doc/5.reference/text-object-help.pd ... nope, trying to open its help gives me: sorry, couldn't find help patch for "text-object.pd" and that might be because: $ ls /usr/local/lib/pd bin/ I built latest master with the following: $ cd src $ make -f makefile.gnu $ make $ sudo make install y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv

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store value of any type
by yvan volochine 04 Jul '13

04 Jul '13

hi all, I'd like to store a value which can be of any type but I don't remember if that's even possible.. something like [value foo] but that would work for integer, list, or anything else like for [foo bar 123( is there a vanilla object for that? cheers, y -- http://yvanvolochine.com http://soundcloud.com/yvanvolochine http://soundcloud.com/elgusanorojo http://vimeo.com/yv

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PMPD
by richard duckworth 04 Jul '13

04 Jul '13

Hi all, I have PMPD working in Pd Extended 0.39.3. However, when I upgrade to the latest Pd Ext - the [pmpd] object refuses to load? I'm on OS X 10.6.8 though I've noticed the sae issue on Linux All the best, Rich ________________________________ From: "pd-list-request(a)iem.at" <pd-list-request(a)iem.at> To: pd-list(a)iem.at Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 12:59 Subject: Pd-list Digest, Vol 100, Issue 4 Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to pd-list(a)iem.at To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pd-list-request(a)iem.at You can reach the person managing the list at pd-list-owner(a)iem.at When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: GOP text field / symbol which is resizeable? (was: GOP text field which sends bang?) (Andr?s Mur?nyi) 2. Re: SIGPIPE on iemnet's tcpserver (Antoine Villeret) 3. [PD-announce] Call for Collaborators | Bodynet - How to make a network of bodies? (Medialab-Prado Comunicaci?n) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 12:54:54 +0200 From: Andr?s Mur?nyi <muranyia(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PD] GOP text field / symbol which is resizeable? (was: GOP text field which sends bang?) To: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <CAJtGUK5UM5rWdGXMEcBZsPRt5N5JptRF8aK=rHAZxkwc2QC7CQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Roman Haefeli <reduzent(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 20:56 +0200, Andr?s Mur?nyi wrote: > > I'm reformulating my question as the problem is evolving: > > do we have an object that > > - Displays and holds a text value (like Symbol or Message box), > > * symbolbox with width set 0 resizes dynamically > * hsl, vsl, cnv, etc. can adjust size with 'size' message, can change > displayed text with 'label' message > Very good idea, thanks Roman! Some difficulties I'm having: - I don't know how to set the label of [cnv]... is it possible at all? - (ATTN: Ivica) [hsl] seems to have the bounding box (?) miscalculated in l2ork so it doesn't GOP when it's less than 2-3px from the border of the parent canvas. Checked in Vanilla, it works as expected ([hsl] can be placed to the very border and it will GOP). > > > - is Graph-on-Parent, > > applies to all above solutions. > > > - can be resized (like Number2)? (or small enough by default?) > > see above. > > To make something send a bang, you could put some [bng] objects behind > your whatever text displaying objects. Interestingly, hidden GUI objects > have priority over visible objects when clicked. Another way is to use a > construct like the following to make a slider send bangs only when > clicked, but not when dragged: > > [hsl] > | > [t a a] > \/ > /\ > [sel 0] > > Interesting indeed. Actually, I don't need the label to send a bang any more, because [pmenu] won't pop up when the click happens inside a subpatch, so I need to put the triggering object in the toplevel. (I might still hide it under the GOP abstraction...) BTW, is it theoretically possible for a GOP object to display a menu on the toplevel (stretching over the GOP area of the subpatch where it is)? If yes, I'd eventually try to hack the pmenu code. Andr?s

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Re: [PD] l2ork: SSSAD loads but doesn't save presets
by András Murányi 04 Jul '13

04 Jul '13

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 04:00:15PM +0200, András Murányi wrote: > > thanks for the tip. > > I'm using [presetstore] which writes to [pd presetstore0] (etc...) > > subpatches. (BTW, latest s-abstractions don't have [presetstore] any > more?) > > I've set up the print on receivers, but I guess placing [r > $2-SSSAD_ADMIN] > > and [r $2-SSSAD] inside the [presetstore] patch was not a good idea > because > > they didn't receive anything (where to put them then?) > > sssad-objects created as [sssad something KEY] will send to > KEY-SSSAD_ADMIN and > KEY-SSSAD, all others will send to SSSAD_ADMIN and SSSAD. To receive from > those > semi-global [sssad]-objects, you'd need to replace the receivers next to > the > sssad-objects that use the second argument. > > Maybe you can search for "sssad" objects in your patch and try to find some > that use second args? > > Also the semi-global/local receivers have been added at some time after > s-abstractions where born. Although old already, maybe you have a mix of > both > versions installed now? The old one didn't have any $2-SSSAD > senders/receivers > inside. > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__ > Shame on me, i did have two different sssad folders in my path. Now i've cleaned things up and there's only the one from s-abstractions - but that's not the solution yet. I've noticed that s-abstractions dropped [presetstore] and that may have a good reason. Is it possible that it's actually not compatible with current sssad? I've also noticed [saver] in s-abstrations/sssad which seems to be like [presetstore] (except that [presetstore] saved to subpatches while [saver] saves to textfiles). I've tried it and it doesn't work for me: "error: $1state-11.sssad: write failed". (It does create 0-byte files in s-abstrations/sssad though.) [datastore] however, is still part of s-abstractions (it saves a single state to a subpatch), and it doesn't work here. I tried datastore-help.pd and it saves an empty state. What's interesting, is that if I try it while my other big patch is open, it consistently triggers a segfault. András

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Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi USB2 audio fixed (apparently)
by Dan Wilcox 04 Jul '13

04 Jul '13

Yeah I tried the latest firmware with my Raspbian install and still have issues with my UA-25. Full stereo duplex = dropouts. :( On Jul 2, 2013, at 5:52 PM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > From: Pierre Massat <pimassat(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi USB2 audio fixed (apparently) > Date: July 2, 2013 3:52:31 PM EDT > To: Julian Brooks <jbeezez(a)gmail.com> > Cc: PD List <pd-list(a)iem.at> > > > Hi all, > > I did a fresh install of Raspbian using the NOOBS installer. The pd-extended package from puredata.info doesn't work with my soundcard (it wasn't working before). And Pd vanilla installed from the Raspbian repositories doesn't work with it either (although it was working fine before). My soundcard is an old EMU 0404 USB. By "doesn't work" I mean that it either throws an "Audio stuck/closing audio" error, or simply freezes everything (Pd, LXDE, mouse, everything) and all I can do is unplug the power chord. > > So for me not only did it not fix anything, but i'm actually worse off and left with the inability to use Pd at all on my Pi. > > I haven't tried Miller's compiled version of Vanilla yet (I still don't know how it is different from the one available in the Raspbian repos). The recent Planet CCRMA Satelite for the RPi is also an option. > > Pierre. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi USB2 audio fixed
by Nick Burge 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

I also found that powering off a 2amp 5v usb hub gave dramatically better results. Full duplex two channels at 44.1khz without dropouts.

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pd-extended crashes sending data to SSR with tcpclient
by Iain Mott 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

Hi list, Pd-extended (Pd-0.43.1 "extended-20120430" compiled 00:31:34 Apr 30 2012) is crashing when I send data to the SoundScape Renderer on Ubuntu 12.04 using tcpclient. I'm using the latest SSR from here: http://spatialaudio.net/ssr/download/ but the crashing occurs with the older version ssr-0.3.4 as well. Once, Pd produced the following error message on crashing, but generally doesn't give any clues: pdsend errorname: >>error writing "sock8": connection reset by peer<< I've been able to simulate the crash with a simplified set up. If anyone can please have a look, I'd be very grateful. The archive is uploaded here: http://reverberant.com/tmp/test.zip To test it, you'd need to unzip the file, enter into the directory the directory with the extracted files, then, assuming the latest SSR is installed and jack is running at 44.1kHz, run: ssr-binaural rei_voz4.asd & in order to launch ssr with a scene. Then, if your pd-extended is not installed as /usr/bin/pd-extended, you'll need to edit the path in startpd.sh to suit. Then run: ./startpd.sh Once Pd is open, first click "localhost" (see yellow region #1) to make the connection with SSR, then wiggle the vertical slider (near yellow region #2) wildly until Pd crashes. At least, that's what happens to me. Some times it may take up to 30 sec or a minute to crash - or not at all. Usually it crashes in less than 15 sec. Pds audio processing does not have to be on for the crash to occur. Can anyone replicate the crash? Suggestions welcome! Cheers, Iain

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bytes to string
by Charles Goyard 03 Jul '13

03 Jul '13

Hi list, apologizes, this looks like a FAQ, but I can't find anything in the archives (wrong keywords ?) for this. I just want to turn the bytes from comport output into a list. >From a serial monitor, my program outputs: "1.23 456 789\n" I get it correctly into pd and it seems to work. But it looks ugly and I feel it could be better done. Is there some idiom/abstraction handy ? Attached is the lousy patch I made. Thanks for any hints ! -- Charles

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Raspberry Pi USB2 audio fixed (apparently)
by Julian Brooks 02 Jul '13

02 Jul '13

Hey all, So, umm, yeah. Is everyone on this already? Just got a message saying that an 'rpi-update' should fix the usb2 problems for soundcards. Not checked 'cos I spent bloody ages tracking down soundcards that did work. Good to know though. http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=364163&sid=04807df00bff9f… http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=362690#p362690 http://www.raspyfi.com/raspberry-pi-usb-audio-fix/ (anyone checked out this distro btw?) Good to hear there seems to be lots of audio tweaks and exploration going on on the Pi (still:) Best wishes, Julian

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[PD-announce] Call for Collaborators | Bodynet - How to make a network of bodies?
by Medialab-Prado Comunicación 02 Jul '13

02 Jul '13

Workshop "Bodynet - How to make a network of bodies?" *Call for Collaborators* Call to collaborate in the project development of the *five selected projects <http://medialab-prado.es/article/bodynet_como_hacer_una_red_de_cuerpos_proy…>* for the workshop**within the European project *METABODY* <http://www.metabody.eu/> - */Media Embodiment Tékhné and Bridges of Diversity/*/./ Projects deal with topics such as performances and their relationship with the body, heteronomativity or the blurry boundaries between reality and fiction through technology. Free registration. Dealine: 23 july, 2013. Limited space. Dates: July 24 -31, 2013. Venue: Medialab-Prado in Madrid (Spain) Collaborators' Profile The call is open to the participation of anyone interested. However, due to the type of projects, we are looking also for profiles such as cultural minorities, anthropologists, sociologists, biologists (how to body networks operate in this and other societies and ecosystems), social workers or care specialists (body, means and functional diversity), hackers and developers (how to engage the body in a digital network based on the model of the Brain Talk Communities). List of selected proposals http://medialab-prado.es/article/bodynet_como_hacer_una_red_de_cuerpos_proy… More information: http://medialab-prado.es/article/bodynet_colaboradores -- Nerea García Garmendia Medialab-Prado Plaza de las Letras Calle Alameda, 15. 28014 Madrid difusion(a)medialab-prado.es http://www.facebook.com/MedialabPradoMadrid Twitter: @medialabprado <https://twitter.com/medialabprado> /"Antes de imprimir este documento asegúrate de que es realmente necesario. ¡Gracias por tu colaboración!"/ _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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