Pd-list November 2013

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Re: [PD] [OT] Status of Fink packages
by Dan Wilcox 12 Nov '13

12 Nov '13

Sorry, this may not help much but: Wow, I didn't realize Fink was still around. Most people I know (including myself) are using Homebrew which currently has v0.11 json-c. I also did a check on Macports & they have v0.9 ... :( On Nov 10, 2013, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > From: Thomas Mayer <thomas(a)residuum.org> > Subject: [PD] [OT] Status of Fink packages > Date: November 9, 2013 at 10:00:37 AM EST > To: PD List <pd-list(a)iem.at> > > Hello, > > sorry for this off topic question, but I am requiring version 0.11 of > json-c for the next release of PuREST JSON, and I do not have a Mac. > > Currently search for packages (http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php) > on the Fink website does not load, and so I have no way to see the > current version of json-c in it. > > Is there any other way to look up the version? If it has an older > version, can someone please upgrade to 0.11 > (https://s3.amazonaws.com/json-c_releases/releases/index.html)? > > Thanks in advance, > Thomas > -- > "Theoretically, [the amount of money in circulation] is watched > carefully by clever, serious economists. In practice, all the world's > money is one big swirling, whirling pool." (Cory Doctorow - For The Win) > http://www.residuum.org/ -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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PdWeekend Rampup Roundtable "Brainstorming with Miller and Friends" Nov 15 at UCSD
by Joe Deken 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

We have some hopes of live networking more widely, but regardless of that it seems worthwhile to post the agenda here quickly for Pd-folk to peruse. And maybe insights will be provoked (on Pd-list and elsewhere) as a good result. Also ** Please remember ** if you "were thinking of" making a donation to the New Blankets Artist-in-Transit mini-fundraiser for Jonathan Wilkes, there are only a few days left to do that eligible for matching funding from New Blankets. Please e-mail me or e-mail the AIT fundraising address "wilkes_ait(a)newblankets.org" and let us know to set aside the match $$ for you, if you like. Many people of course have contributed ideas and congratulations to Jonathan -- far more valuable but not accepted at the beans-and-rice store, of course :) The agenda below is also online/updated at http://newblankets.org/roundtable_agenda.html (and you may save time/stop_reading now if you prefer to go there) PdWeekend Friday Ramp-Up Roundtable "Brainstorming with Miller & Friends" (UCSD Campus) 8:00A(1hr) VIP Promenade & Random Social Meandering (+ Room Setup) Coffee, Tea, Juice, Bagels ad lib 9:00A(30m) Sound Spatialization w/Hoa Library CICM/Paris 8 team ((live via network)) Guillot,SÃ¨des,Paris HoaLibrary allows musicians and composers to synthesize, transform and render sound fields in a creative and artistic way. This library facilitates the understanding and the appropriation of key concepts of Ambisonics. Thanks to original graphical interfaces, HoaLibrary offers a lot of new signal processing like diffuse sound field synthesis, perspective distortion or spatial filtering. 9:30A(30m) New Blankets and Puredata from the top and the roots. Rustomji Vania Gi Vania, one of the founders of New Blankets, will explore and discuss perspectives on how New Blankets and Pd synergy has developed since 2008 when Miller joined the founding Board. The "Suitcase Supercomputer" first built right here in Atkinson Hall out of PSP+cameras+Wifi (with Miller & many Friends and Friends of Friends), the first ever Fedora-Pd-extended Live Stick which Gi designed and produced with Hans-Christoph Steiner, the Pd+RPi workshops that he has enabled and participated in with Miller since the first 100 Pd+RPi kits arrived last year for circulation -- and more. Note: Without bringing a crystal ball to roll but with a new role at Southern Illinois University as Deputy Director for Research Computing and Cyberinfrastructure Gi will outline (and try to instigatediscussion of) New Blankets' possible best initiatives forward for 2014. In fact it seems likely that in 2014 the Venn diagrams of community open benevolent activity will show New Blankets in a much thicker overlap with mainline campus computing and professional/academic libraries. With his commitment to New Blankets and technical leadership role at SIU Gi is a principal architect of how New Blankets will find a good path forward -- with many universities, museums and cultural centers. And "Mr. Gi" is quite a good listener as well. So let the NB discussion roll! 10:00A(30m) Recent Usability Improvements to Pd Jonathan Wilkes New Blankets Artist-in-Transit 2014 Overview of some usability improvements to Pd, including info objects, documentation search engine, multi-connection shortcuts, and some new datastructure objects. Plus a few ideas for future improvements. [ITPS: It's the ponies, silly.] 10:30A(30m) 11:00A(30m) RaspberryPi rigging & cheap tricks + Sneak_Peek of Saturday AM Workshop Miller Puckette 11:30A(30m) Break for Lunch 1:00P(30m) netpd Roman Haefeli netpd is a CRNMME (Collaborative Realtime Networked Music Making Environment) built in Pure Data. It allows many users to have a realtime jam sessions with each other, connected over the net. Users might contribute their own netpd-ized patches a.k.a. instruments or use pre-existing ones. The set of patches, as well as the state of each is synchronized between clients in order to provide identical experience for every connected user. 1:30P(30m) High Performance Wireless Innovation -- Experience from HPWREN Hans-Werner Braun HPWREN functions as a collaborative Internet-connected cyberinfrastructure on research, education, and public safety activities. The project supports a wireless data network in San Diego, Riverside, and Imperial counties (topology). The network includes backbone nodes, typically on mountain tops, to connect often hard-to-reach areas in remote environments. 2:00P(30m) DIY Mic Kit, Slice//Jockey & Saturday Workshop Preview Katja Vetter The inimitable Katja Vetter will show the remarkable things she's invented and constructed with and for Pd. She will also inspire with her performance skills -- thereby also offering a Sneak Peek of: her Saturday workshop, the Live Jam Saturday evening and the Patching Circle in one fell memorable swoop. 2:30P(30m) What's new in Pd 0.43 +Sneak_Peek of Sunday CrashSpace Patching Circle Miller Puckette 3:00P(30m) Pdl2Ork + Saturday workshop Sneak_Peek Ico Bukvic "At L2Ork we seek to explore new and exciting opportunities that arise from combining the quintessential form of collaboration with centuries of tradition found in the Western orchestra, with affordable and versatile contemporary technology, in this case laptops. Since laptops, unlike traditional instruments can take on many different roles, we believe that there is no single ultimate way to implement a laptop orchestra and we see this as its greatest potential." 3:30P(30m) Reflection and Recap Miller and All After a few minutes of "topics whiteboarding" Miller will lead a discussion the day's loose ends and promising further directions -- as well as his "takeaway impressions" recap: insights and/or conundrums gleaned from all the presenters and discussions. Confirmed On-Site Participants (partial list) *Braun Hans-Werner Braun hwb at ucsd dot edu **Bukvic Ivica Ico Bukvic ico at vt dot edu Daniels Michelle Daniels michelledaniels at ucsd dot edu Deken Joe Deken joe_deken at newblankets dot org *+Haefeli Roman Haefeli reduzent at gmail dot com Kraan Fred Jan Kraan fjkraan at xs4all dot nl Meng Christopher Meng empmeng at gmail dot com **+Puckette Miller Puckette msp at ucsd dot edu *Seldess Zachary Seldess zseldess at eng dot ucsd.edu Trowbridge Theron Trowbridge theron dot trowbridge at gmail.com *Vania Rustomji H Vania gvania at siu dot edu **+Vetter Katja Vetter katjavetter at gmail dot com **Wilkes Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo dot com Video Participants (logistics-in-progress) Brooks Julian Brooks mail at julianbrooks dot net Farnell Andy Farnell padawan12 at obiwannabe dot co.uk Guillot Pierre Guillot guillotpierre6 at gmail dot com McCormick Chris McCormick chris at mccormick dot cx Oliver Jaime E Oliver jaime dot oliver2 at gmail.com

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using multiple asio devices
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 hi all, i wonder whether anybody found a solution on w32 to use multiple ASIO devices at the same time. background: we are using a multi-channel *input* (that is: no output) soundcard (with only ASIO drivers). we would like to hear what we are recording, so we need to access another soundcard (with outputs) in the same instance of Pd. let's assume that the two soundcards are synched somehow. fgasmdr IOhannes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSgQzuAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4raQQAIhLE7MFlrbXFHMFOW9lgXU+ sdJflG2l+kk0yCumpNMjr7QFWw/WRMgbdt0D4XEVxz1fLIoB6zHGx5tdg6RmsQoq EgEmaNSO460CInjkTVPEQLJiD4Op6SLwm7q6JEzX1CNtq0eZ/s+KCEjJ2ossuyk8 J8kzKqTw9Zcd6oLuuounq5FLahCCOwwxyur/9UeFfPK/FqlkpnZAqX3g5RfPCLD6 MDK9yjKNDJkCfIjWo5c5prAFfvYOgg0RLAo+N/h1XsT0ELu574J4TDL7cGZ6C01D 5G9jG7vT6Wa7j5aENy1nsQbxsNj6rJuti+lVIp6JVgi1UUCrMZTcxxmCt9Bu9bWf LdrdbdeUXOvuZVBYgGATit6WIDoUDtvDcvVZybd7UVgqdMwgl9a6F52vJ13CH//P fysX0+Mbsgw75Go+wlmEMi+KyBVFP72j9xRFFnZ4YZVRH4r4QHkzS1Ft0h0d6fdX sYGTnYxcbBS/VruKxRhHT/+ALlP3DBmBfZW9iex2BHTV4Tt4NhdVDLIqYshxOtJu 7ko8CDsteIK8Qt0Ee4BSqbBRlJbWsoAP6UtNTwQXF2oPlnyT88vKQ0ilt4V7iNYu Qb5h5MpEysTtXJdlfxmREzWOd0tn2VChfF4K7LIw3AL6S3g6COEuKafNcU6lNjPm YzkNQacAdqZ7mB8DVo1E =ULE9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fwd: Arduino/Raspberry comport issue
by Alexandros Drymonitis 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

The baud rate issue seems strange, as the communicating devices should talk and listen to the same baud rate...no idea, sorry. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Allen, Michael <allenm(a)spu.edu> Date: Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Arduino/Raspberry comport issue To: Alexandros Drymonitis <adrcki(a)gmail.com> The baud rate in the arduino code is 9600. But like I said, in pd it doesn't seem to matter? If the first rate I try in the comport object is 9600 it won't connect. If I change to 115200 it will. Similarly if I close the patch with 115200 saved and reopen it, the comport won't connect unless I change the baud rate back to 9600. I haven't tried other speeds but I bet they would do the same thing. It seems like it wants to do the opposite of what I want it to do. A mind of its own. I have a message going to the comport object to open it. Either [open 0 9600( with whatever port [devices] tells me, or [devicename /dev/ttyAMA0 9600( On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:14 AM, "Alexandros Drymonitis" <adrcki(a)gmail.com> wrote: Are you sure the baud rate you set to [comport] is the same as the code you load on your Arduino? That could be a problem.. If you send the [devices( message to [comport] what do you get in the console? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM, kubriel <kubriel(a)servus.at> wrote: > > It won?t receive data. >> > Hi! i was using RPi plenty of times headless without any problems with > comport in pd, but usually running armarch linux. > but i was not using device name, but device nr, like [comport 0 9600] for > uno, or [comport 4 9600] for duemilanove. > > kub > > -- > http://kubriel.servus.at > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list >

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Can't create boids objects
by Jack 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

Hello, After a 'make' I get boids2d.pd_linux and boids3d.pd_linux but can't create objects under Pd. When I try to create an object, i get in pd console : ./boids2d.pd_linux: ./boids2d.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 boids2d: can't load library ./boids3d.pd_linux: ./boids3d.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 boids3d: can't load library What can I do/change to use these objects under Pd ? Here my configuration : Pd 0.45.0test 2 Last boids sources from svn://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/boids Thanx for help. ++ Jack

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Arduino/Raspberry comport issue
by Allen, Michael 11 Nov '13

11 Nov '13

I’m using a Teensy to get data from Pots and switches into PD on a RPi. The teensy sketch is set to open serial at 9600 baud. In PD I have [comport devicename 9600]. It won’t receive data. When I change the object to [comport devicename 115200] it immediately opens and starts receiving data. I’m specifying the device name since it seems to be switching between port 1 and 0 for unknown reasons upon power cycling or unplugging, etc. So then if I save the patch with [comport device name 115200] and reopen it, it won’t receive data. If I change the object to [comport device name 9600] it immediately opens the port and starts receiving. So it doesn’t seem to matter what the absolute value of the baud rate is, it just wants to be something other than what I specify initially? Ultimately I want to run headless without a gui, and just plug the RPi in and have it work so needing to change the object each time will not fly. Any ideas on what is happening here? Mike

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[OT] Status of Fink packages
by Thomas Mayer 09 Nov '13

09 Nov '13

Hello, sorry for this off topic question, but I am requiring version 0.11 of json-c for the next release of PuREST JSON, and I do not have a Mac. Currently search for packages (http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php) on the Fink website does not load, and so I have no way to see the current version of json-c in it. Is there any other way to look up the version? If it has an older version, can someone please upgrade to 0.11 (https://s3.amazonaws.com/json-c_releases/releases/index.html)? Thanks in advance, Thomas -- "Theoretically, [the amount of money in circulation] is watched carefully by clever, serious economists. In practice, all the world's money is one big swirling, whirling pool." (Cory Doctorow - For The Win) http://www.residuum.org/

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Noisemakers needed - tomorrow, Open House at Concordia University (Montreal)
by eldad tsabary 08 Nov '13

08 Nov '13

Hello all, This Saturday (9 Nov) there will be an Open House at Concordia University (Montreal), during which there will be an open electroacoustic jam session at the reverberant south-eastern stairway of the John Molson (MB) building (1450 Guy Street, 8th floor). Come, bring friends (any time between 10AM and 3PM) with your laptop, analog, or acoustic sound makers and a cable from your device to XLR, 1/4" TRS, or TS (we have some, but if you have one, please bring it). All sound producing things are welcome—from a good-ol' laptop through hardware synthesizers, to conventional musical instruments, voice, pots and pans, and circuit bent toys. There are no stylistic limitations, anything goes so long as we listen to each other. There is no need to RSVP, just show up at the MB's 8th floor this Saturday , November 9th, at any time between 10 AM and 3 PM Contact me if you have questions Hope to see you there Eldad

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audio dropout when switching between workspaces or bringing the patch in front
by jamal crawford 08 Nov '13

08 Nov '13

hi list im having problems with audio when switching between workspaces or bringing the patch in front ( http://dyret.menneske.dk/shots/sampler_shot.png ), both on linux and msw. the only workaround i figured, is to minimize the patch window, but slicing samples without visual feedback is like pointing randomly in the sky. i tried different minimal window managers (using fluxbox myself), but the problem persists. i also tried different flag combination without mercy. any suggestions or workarounds would be highly appreciated! im on 0.43.4-extended best regards /.jc -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own

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(no subject)
by Joshan Mahmud 08 Nov '13

08 Nov '13

Hi all Apologise for the novice question, but I'm trying to work purely with C++ & libpd (OSX desktop) and have been working with samples/cppTest/cpptest.xcodeproj from https://github.com/libpd/libpd. I can build the project fine (libpd & the cppTest app) but when it opens the test patch (or any for that matter) I do not get any sound. The patch themselves works fine. Print statements are ok and sending & receiving messages seem ok. But I even built a patch which just *~ two phasors, and couldn't hear it when I used the cppTest code to open my patch. I don't think there is anything wrong with libpd nor my sound card as I compiled & ran the iOSTest project (deployed to a simulator iPhone) and that worked (fuzzy audio, but sound came through). Anyone have any good ideas? I know that with the output AudioUnit on OSX has a default volume of 0 (unlike iOS which has default of 1.0 for volume) so would it be something like that? Thanks!!! Josh

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