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OSC Sequencer IanniX
by Christoph Kuhr 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

Hi, I wanted to announce a cool OSC sequencer. IanniX www.IanniX.org until now i didnt hear anything of it here so i thought it could be interesting for many others out there... the community is still small and the software really powerful! if someone is already using it, i would be glad to share some experience! regads Ck

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[PD-announce] new editing features of Pd-extended 0.43, now in beta!
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

http://at.or.at/hans/blog/2012/02/17/new-editing-feature-of-pd-extended-0-4… The Pd-extended 0.43 release has been brewing an extra long time, about 18 months now, mostly because there are lots of big improvements, and we wanted to make sure we got it right, so your patches all work, but the improvements all shine. Its now solidly beta, so we’re looking for testers. Download a nightly build to try here: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ First off, the pd-gui side of Pd has been re-written from scratch. When you run Pd, you are actually running two programs: pd is the core engine and pd-gui is the GUI. Since basically all computers now come with multiple CPU cores, this means that pd-gui will usually run on a separate CPU core than pd, so they don’t step on each other’s toes. pd can entirely take over its own core. If you want to make your patch use more CPU cores, then check out the [pd~] object introduced in the last release (0.42.5). pd still handles some of the GUI stuff, but we are working on splitting that out for the 0.44 release. That is a big chunk of work but it will also bring big gains. In particular, it means that it will be possible for people to write their own GUIs for Pd, covering not just the display of the patch, but also the editing, and everything else. You like OpenFrameworks, python, iOS, JUCE, Qt, etc.? Write your own pd-gui using the toolkit of your choice. That’s the idea at least. That will take a solid chunk of work, so we are looking for people to join that effort. There are so many ideas for making a better editing experience in Pd, this release makes big strides to address the editing experience. There are new features like Magic Glass, Autotips, Autopatch and Perf Mode, all available on the Edit menu. • Magic Glass let’s you magically see the messages as they pass through the cords. Just turn it on and hover above a cord, and you’ll see the messages as they go by. You can even look at signal/audio cords. • Autotips gives you tips about what an object does, what its inlet expects, and what comes out of the outlets. • Autopatch mode automatically connects objects as you create them. • Perf Mode, is a mode for performance that makes it harder to accidentally close windows that are part of your performance. The Pd Window is also majorly overhauled. First of all, its fast. Much much faster than the old one. You can now print thousands of messages per second to the Pd Window and still edit your patch. No more will an accidental dump of info cause the GUI to freeze up (well, ok, maybe if you send 10,000 messages/second but that is a way too many). There are also now 5 levels of printing messages to the Pd Window: fatal, error, normal, debug, all. If you are only interested in fatal errors, switch the Pd Window to 0 – fatal, and you’ll only see the worst problems. You want to see every single message to debug? Switch to 4 – all, and you’ll get the whole firehose. There is also the new log library, which lets you easily send messages for those different levels. And all messages logged with the objects from the log library are clickable: when you Ctrl-Click or Cmd-click (Mac OS X) on the line in the Pd Window, it’ll pop up the patch where the message came from, and highlight the specific object that printed it. That even works for many messages from other objects as well. The Pd Window also includes very basic level meters for monitoring the input and output levels. And for those who want to play with the GUI in realtime, you can type Tcl code in the Tcl entry field, and directly modify and probe the running GUI. One thing that you can do now is customize the GUI using GUI plugins. You can change all sorts of colors, some fonts, and many behaviors. Want to create a new object when you triple-click? Try the tripleclick example plugin Want to make the patch cords disappear when you leave Edit Mode? Check out the “only show cords in edit mode” example. Those are the simple ones. There is also Tab Completion, a search engine for the docs, a category browser for the right-click menu, a buttonbar for creating objects, and more. You can find many GUI plugins in the new section of the downloads page as well as documentation for making your own. What kind of GUI plugin will write? _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data
by Antonio Roberts 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

Thank! That's the exact problem I have. I can easily save a frame of an image, but to display them back immediately afterwards is what I want to do. Like some people I've had troubles with [pix_write] and [pix_record] and even then I don't think it'll solve the problem of loading them back into PD (it'll only save the files) As for getting Toonloop working on a mac, that's something you have to ask Alexandre Quessy ;-) Ant On 27 February 2012 18:20, Pagano, Patrick <pat(a)digitalworlds.ufl.edu> wrote: > Seriously > > I think your issue will be viewing the recordings immediately, if that’s > what you are after. > > Creating a stop motioner should be easy > > What everyone is saying is that NO, no –one has tried and you should look at > pix_video’s help file and pix_write help file > > > > Kind regards > > > > pp > > > > > > From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at] On Behalf Of > Pagano, Patrick > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:14 PM > To: Antonio Roberts; chris clepper > > > Cc: PD List > Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data > > > > Create a patch that uses key [spacebar] to write a jpg to pix write from > pix_video > > Also ask Alexander Quessy to get toonloop to work on mac again J > > > > pp > > > > From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at] On Behalf Of > Antonio Roberts > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:11 PM > To: chris clepper > Cc: PD List > Subject: Re: [PD] Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data > > > > Got a example patch to explain further? > > On Feb 27, 2012 5:55 PM, "chris clepper" <cgclepper(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > pix_video into pix_write will do it. > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Antonio Roberts <antonio(a)hellocatfood.com> > wrote: > > Thanks. Do you have any example patches to work from? > > Ant > > > On 27 February 2012 16:45, Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)artengine.ca> wrote: >> Le 2012-02-27 à 12:00:00, Antonio Roberts a écrit : >> >> >>> Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop >>> (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion >>> tool. >> >> >> The basics of it should be a quite small GF patch (or GEM) if you try to >> make one. >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> | Mathieu BOUCHARD ----- téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 ----- Montréal, QC > > > > -- > ============================ > antonio(a)hellocatfood.com > http://www.hellocatfood.com > ============================ > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > -- ============================ antonio(a)hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ============================

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Mac OS X/PowerPC builds needed
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

So the Mac OS X PowerPC machine from the build farm has died. The hard drive is intact, so all the data is there. I also have much more limited time for maintaining the PdLab machines. So I'm looking for someone to host the Mac OS X PowerPC builds. It can be really any recent PowerPC Mac. The old machine was a 300MHz G4. Can anyone take this on? I'd hate to see Mac OS X/PowerPC dropped from the supported platforms since they are still quite capable machines. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We have nothing to fear from love and commitment." - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill

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Re: [PD] choosing your language at launch WAS: Japanese Pure Data book is out now.
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

I haven't included the latest yet. If you are on GNU/Linux or Mac OS X with Fink or Macports, its easy to generate your own ja.msg file for Pd-extended to use. Let me know and I can walk you throw the process. .hc On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Seiichiro Matsumura wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Thank you for the quick update. I would like to check it but I can't > approach to pd-extended git because I am not a geek user even writing > Pd book. > It seems the latest translation is not yet reflected on > Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120226. Is there any other ways I could check it? > Sorry for bothering you. > I also asked Chikashi to check the translation before release. Double > check must be necessary. > > Best, > > Sei Matsumura > > 2012年2月25日6:56 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at>: >> >> I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese >> translation :-). I'll be sure to update it one last time before the >> final release, so you can test it in a real build. >> >> I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that >> is something that the OS should handle. So anyone who set their system >> language to English will get Pd-extended in English. For those who want >> some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know >> of, and how you do it varies on each OS. If someone wants to code this >> for Pd-extended, patches are welcome. >> >> For the geeks, you can select the language easily when launching Pd from >> the terminal. This is what I do for testing the language support: >> >> $ export LANG=en >> $ /usr/bin/pd-extended >> >> or on Mac OS X: >> >> $ /Applications/Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/bin/pd >> >> You can see the supported languages in the po/ folder inside Pd. >> >> .hc >> >> On 02/23/2012 11:54 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote: >>> Thanks. >>> I finished Transifex work in Japanese 100%. Then I was surprised my >>> partly inputs of Transifex in middle of Feb. is already reflected in >>> 0.43.1-beta 20120223. >>> >>> However, it seems working automatic depends on system language of OSX, now. >>> I think it would be nice if users can select language mode in >>> Preferences, for example like Audacity's language setting. Because >>> many Japanese users (especially geeks) already get used to the general >>> English menu and interfaces. >>> Of course, Japanese interfaces is truly helpful for Japanese Pd newbies. >>> So languages selectable is the ideal. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Sei Matsumura >>> -- >>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ >>> Seiichiro Matsumura >>> >>> sei(a)low-tech-ism.com >>> http://low-tech-ism.com/ >>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ >>> >>> 2012/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at>: >>>> That's great! I wish I could read it. I love the idea of including the interviews and the PdCon report, it shows the multidimensionality of Pd. Its not just software, but the community behind it as well. >>>> >>>> To match this release, I think it would be nice to also have a complete Japanese translation of the Pd interface. To contribute, create an account on transifex and edit the Japanese translation in this webform: >>>> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/ >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear list, >>>>> >>>>> The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be >>>>> published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan. >>>>> The title is "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data". This >>>>> book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type >>>>> tutorials. >>>>> If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd >>>>> world, please recommend this book. >>>>> >>>>> Web site (Japanese) >>>>> "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data" >>>>> http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#mo… >>>>> >>>>> I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan. >>>>> >>>>> best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Sei Matsumura >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ >>>>> Seiichiro Matsumura, Ph.D. >>>>> >>>>> Tokyo University of Technology >>>>> School of Design >>>>> Associate Professor >>>>> >>>>> http://low-tech-ism.com/ >>>>> __/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/__/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pd-announce mailing list >>>>> Pd-announce(a)iem.at >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> "Free software means you control what your computer does. 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Toonloop/Stop Motion in Pure Data
by Antonio Roberts 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

Has anyone attempted to make something like Toonloop (http://toonloop.com/) in Pure Data? It's basically a live stop motion tool. Antonio -- ============================ antonio(a)hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ============================

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Re: [PD] GEM + Boids
by Oussama Mubarak 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

Thank you Cyrille. That's exactly what I was looking for. Oussama Mubarak http://semiaddict.com Le 27/02/2012 15:14, Cyrille Henry a Ã©crit : > and here is the attachement > > > Le 27/02/2012 15:14, Cyrille Henry a Ã©crit : >> hello, >> >> yes, ity's easy. >> see attachment. >> you can have more information about technique use in this patch in >> Gem documentation, mainly at the end of directory 02.advanced >> >> cheers >> Cyrille >> >> >> Le 27/02/2012 14:09, Oussama Mubarak a Ã©crit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm new to PD and trying to use boids >>> (http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/boids) with GEM >>> (http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/gem). >>> >>> The example "boids2d-help.pd" (attached) that comes with boids is >>> almost what I need, but it renders each boids result in a separate >>> pd subpatch; in "pd gem_example" a route object is used to route >>> each result of boids to a separate subpatch "pd boid" which takes >>> care of the gem rendering. >>> >>> Is there a way to send the results of boids to one subpatch that >>> would take care of all the rendering no matter how many boids >>> results there are ? This would allow me to fluctuate the number of >>> boids without having to create and attach new subpatches. >>> >>> Any help is highly appreciated. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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pd mentioned in squarepusher interview
by i go bananas 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

right at the very end of this 10 minute interview, Tom mentions PD (while showing off his reaktor patches, though :p ) http://www.thecreatorsproject.com/en-uk/creators/squarepusher

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-rt startup flag ignored
by Edgar Berdahl 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

Hi, I believe that the -rt flag is still ignored in extended version 0.42.5. To debug this, I am using my own version of ps which lists the threads and also RTPRIO priorities: ps -eLo pid,class,rtprio,ni,pri,pcpu,stat,comm --sort -rtprio Depending on your kernel settings, it might be harder for you to verify this, but I imagine you might find in the source code where it parses "flags" in .pdextended that it simply doesn't check for -rt. If I start pd with -rt specified neither in ~/.pdextended nor on the command line, I get these priorities: PID CLS RTPRIO NI PRI %CPU STAT COMMAND 1299 TS - 0 19 19.8 RLl pd 1299 TS - 0 19 0.0 SLl pd 1299 FF 57 - 97 2.1 SLl pd 1299 TS - 0 19 0.0 SLl pd but if I start with -rt "flags" field of ~/.pdextended I get the same realtime priority for all the pd threads! PID CLS RTPRIO NI PRI %CPU STAT COMMAND 1263 TS - 0 19 23.3 RLl pd 1263 TS - 0 19 0.0 SLl pd 1263 FF 57 - 97 1.8 SLl pd 1263 TS - 0 19 0.0 SLl pd (I even tried putting -rt in two different places in "flags") However, if I start using -rt on the command line I get the following priorities, for which all of the pd threads have at least RTPRIO 6: PID CLS RTPRIO NI PRI %CPU STAT COMMAND 1237 FF 6 - 46 30.9 SLl pd 1237 FF 6 - 46 0.0 SLl pd 1237 FF 57 - 97 1.1 SLl pd 1237 FF 6 - 46 0.0 SLl pd and then I don't get dropouts anymore. So for me, it is essential to use this option. For the time being, my workaround is simply to put this shell script in ~/bin to add -rt to the flags every time the user calls pd: #!/bin/bash # # Shell script to make pd always start with -rt, no matter what # the user types. /usr/bin/pd -rt $* Warm regards! - Edgar PS. See also: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-08/041087.html

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[PD-announce] Pd 0.43-2 test 1 released
by Miller Puckette 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

Hi all - Pd 0.43-2 test 1 is out on the usual places: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data This version fixes the TCL errors starting up on Windows (the page-long pink blot on the Pd window) and a couple of minor fixes. Oddly, the default fint size seems to have changed on Windows from 0.43-1; I don't understand why that happened and anyway I still have to check what's most consistent with 0.42 (in hopes of maintaining longer-term consistency of fonts). Also, there's a remaining bug in setting initial window sizes (most visible in the "test audio and MIDI" window) - sometimes scroll bars appear that eat into window space unnecessarily. I'll try to find a fix for that next. cheers Miller _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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