Pd-list December 2012

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[PD-announce] Pd group in Athens
by Alexandros Drymonitis 23 Dec '12

23 Dec '12

Hi list, I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could all benefit from it. Greetings _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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mastering to vinyl live w/ pd
by me.grimm 23 Dec '12

23 Dec '12

does anyone know much about mastering? i dont..... anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0 which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was thinking just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the best sound maybe i could run it through some kind of "mastering" patch. has anyone made such a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent masters right from PD? I would think something like: [equilizer~] - but what one? [adaptive/nlms3~]? adaptive_equilization example which im not sure i would know how to use for this | [unauthorized/compressor~] - although there is prob a good vanilla one no? | [expander~] ??? | [exciter~] | [zexy/limiter~] | [hip~ 40] | [lop~ 16000] | [dac~] but i might just make a mess with this.... m

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[PD-announce] MusicMakers Hacklab at CTM.13 – “Indeterminism Machines”
by Derek Holzer 22 Dec '12

22 Dec '12

Dear Pd-people, I will be the general assistant for this upcoming hacklab/workshop scenario at CTM.13 in Berlin. It’s a very interesting bunch of characters involved, and the application process just started. So send some shit in! Best wishes! D. ---MusicMakers Hacklab @ CTM.13 – “Indeterminism Machines” ---Submission Deadline: 11.1.2013 ---Hacklab Runs: 29.1 – 1.2.2013 We don’t want to just talk about the future: we want to invent our own Golden Age. The MusicMakers Hacklab at CTM.13 will be an open, collaborative environment in which participants can learn about new technologies and get their hands on making their own musical inventions. It’s a space in which people can build a rapid prototype of anything they imagine, creating new ideas around music making and creation, from composition to performance and DJing. We’re inviting people across media to encourage collaboration: musicians, developers, artists, designers, people working in skills like sound and music, but also code, fashion, visuals, and industrial design and craft. Throughout the week, we’ll welcome artist and developer presentations from Keith Fullerton Whitman, Imogen Heap, Lucas Abela, Tim Exile, Ali Demirel, Native Instruments, Ableton, and others to be announced. Participants will share hands-on skill sessions on topics like physical computing and custom controllers, wearable technology and fashion, live visuals, Pure Data/libpd, Max for Live, Reaktor, OpenSoundControl, Quartz Composer, Processing, and more. PARTICIPANT INFO Selected participants who have proposed a project idea will be named official Hacklab Fellows and be provided with: * A free CTM Festival Pass; * Highlighted profile on CTM and createdigitalmusic.com websites; * The chance to show your finished work at the live showcase at Berghain Kantine on 1 Feb, as part of the CTM.13 program. In that spirit of sharing and community, the Hacklab will be open to walk-ins from both hackers and the general public. HOW TO APPLY To be part of the Hacklab Fellows program, please submit: * A 150-word description of the project you’d like to execute; * A 100-word bio; * If you’d like, send us any images, sketches, videos, or websites you’d like to help us promote your participation and see what’s inside your head. (optional) Remember that you can include an idea about collaboration in your proposal – some Hacklab participants might want to join in your project. Send your submission (and any questions/comments) to: musicmakers(at)ctm-festival.de by 11.1.2013. Presented with createdigitalmusic.com in collaboration with SemiDomesticated and CTM Curated by Peter Kirn General Assistant: Derek Holzer -- derek holzer noise.art.technology http://macumbista.net _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] vbap 1.0.3.2 crashes when sent longer "define_loudspeakers message"
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 22 Dec '12

22 Dec '12

Sounds like you are the first to try it with that many speakers! My guess is that something that allocates memory is hard-coded to a pretty short number. I've used it a lot for 6 speakers and had no crashes. Try changing this in vbap.h: #define MAX_LS_AMOUNT 55 .hc On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Zack Settel wrote: > Hi List, > > > It seems that VBAP v 1.0.3.2 (downloaded sources from puredata.info/downloads/vbap/releases/1.0.3.2) is crashing when send the define-loudspeakers message. > > When sent: > > define_loudspeakers 3 0 90 -7.5 55 52.5 55 112.5 55 172.5 > 55 -127.5 55 -67.5 55 7.5 20 37.5 20 67.5 20 97.5 20 127.5 20 157.5 > 20 -172.5 20 -142.5 20 -112.5 20 -82.5 20 -52.5 20 -22.5 20 7.5 -15 > 37.5 -15 67.5 -15 97.5 -15 127.5 -15 157.5 -15 -172.5 -15 -142.5 -15 > -112.5 -15 -82.5 -15 -52.5 -15 -22.5 -15 > > > the length of the list is 64 > > > an error appears on the PD console : > > vbap loudspeaker-matrices: param 11132 is not a float > pd: getbytes() failed -- out of memory > vbap: Configure loudspeakers first! > > > > context: pd vanilla 0.43-3 > vbap: 1.0.3.2 > > mac OSX 10.8.2 > > > Note: does not crash when same message is truncated to a length of 16, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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error compiling sndfiler~
by Bart Koppe 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

Dear List! I'm trying to compile sndfiler from svn but I get errors. I need it since I need to play ogg files to an icecast stream. I firts made sure that libsndfile and thread was installed but building sndfiler still results in error.. http://grh.mur.at/software/sndfiler.html I run Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (server) x86_64 PD-extended 0.42.5 from puredata.info Thanks! Bart error: # make -f Makefile.pd_main pd_linux gcc -DUNIX -fPIC -pthread -DPD -DUSE_PD_MAIN -O3 -funroll-loops -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -I/usr/include/pdextended -I/usr/local/src/freeswitch/libs/libsndfile/src -I/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/threadlib/src -o sndfiler.o -c sndfiler.c sndfiler.c: In function ‘sndfiler_read_cb’: sndfiler.c:298: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size sndfiler.c:299: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size gcc -DUNIX -fPIC -pthread -DPD -DUSE_PD_MAIN -O3 -funroll-loops -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -I/usr/include/pdextended -I/usr/local/src/freeswitch/libs/libsndfile/src -I/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/threadlib/src -o file_input.o -c file_input.c gcc --export-dynamic -shared -o sndfiler.pd_linux sndfiler.o file_input.o -lc -lm -lsndfile -lvorbisfile /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/threadlib.pd_linux /usr/bin/ld.bfd.real: cannot find -lsndfile collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [sndfiler.pd_linux] Error 1 The paths in Makefile.pd_main: # ---------------------------------------------------------- # adjust the next pathes to your system: # this should point to the directory which contains # m_pd.h and g_canvas.h PD_SCR = /usr/include/pdextended # this is the pd directory, usually /usr/lib/pd # or c:/pd etc. PD_PATH = /usr/lib/pd-extended # path of sndfile.h from libsndfile, usually it's in SNDFILE_SRC = /usr/local/src/freeswitch/libs/libsndfile/src # path to threadlib.h THREADLIB_SRC = /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/threadlib/src # path to threadlib.pd_linux/dll/pd_darwin THREADLIB_PATH = $(PD_PATH)/extra # ----------------------------------------------------------

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possibly non-functional libs in Pd-extended 0.43: gsfm, pdcontainer
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 21 Dec '12

21 Dec '12

pdcontainer and gfsm in Pd-extended 0.43.4 both seem to be somewhat or fully broken. I think if they remain broken, they should probably be removed. You can see the the full log of 'load_every_help' here (this was run on Mac OS X, they might work on other platforms): http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2012-12-21/logs/load_every_help_d… __________________________________________________ loading: /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121219.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdcontainer/h_deque-help.pd h_priority_queue error: ... couldn't create __________________________________________________ loading: /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121219.app/Contents/Resources/extra/moocow/gfsm-help.pd gfsm_alphabet error: ... couldn't create gfsm_automaton error: ... couldn't create gfsm_state error: ... couldn't create gfsm_automaton $1-fsm error: ... couldn't create gfsm_alphabet $1-alph error: ... couldn't create gfsm_alphabet $1-alph error: ... couldn't create gfsm_automaton $1-fsm error: ... couldn't create gfsm_alphabet $1-alph error: ... couldn't create gfsm_state $1-fsm error: ... couldn't create gfsm_automaton $1-fsm error: ... couldn't create verbose(4): Copyright (c) 1999-2012 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute & IEM gfsm_alphabet $1-alph error: ... couldn't create gfsm_alphabet $1-alph error: ... couldn't create gfsm_alphabet $1-alph error: ... couldn't create gfsm_state $1-fsm 0 error: ... couldn't create error: /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121219.app/Contents/Resources/extra/moocow/gfsm.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121219.app/Contents/Resources/extra/moocow/gfsm.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: _getdelim Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121219.app/Contents/Resources/extra/moocow/gfsm.pd_darwin Expected in: flat namespace gfsm error: ... couldn't create

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Pd on snowball ubuntu armv7
by Frédéric Voisin 20 Dec '12

20 Dec '12

Hello, I'm begining to play with Pd with a Snowball ARM-based board from Calao Systems ( http://www.calao-systems.com/articles.php?lng=en&pg=6186 ). I'm using pd 0.43-4 compiled on it with linaro-ubuntu. it sounds pretty well thru the minijack output... I have only some difficulties to know why it runs when it should not - the behaviour seems to be quite different than pi or bb board as I can read on last posts : - the first time I tested pd on it, I played thru pulseaudio (ubuntu default) , using -alsaadd but the audio was very unstable - now, after having autoremoved pulseaudio, I'm using alsa, the minijack is the card 0 device 1 (from 0): $ uname -a Linux linaro-ubuntu-desktop 3.3.1-37-linaro-lt-ux500 #37~lt~ci~20120524012446+1337874072~4fbea4f1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux $ aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: U8500card [U8500-card], device 0: hdmi av8100-codec-dai-0 [UX500_PCM] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: U8500card [U8500-card], device 1: ab8500_0 ab8500-codec-dai.0-1 [UX500_PCM] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: U8500card [U8500-card], device 3: cg29xx_0 cg29xx-codec-dai.1-3 [UX500_PCM] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 with hw:0,1 declared in file /etc/asound.conf I do : $ aplay -D hw:0,1 son.wav = aplay son.wav (= OK) but, with pd it's different : $ pd -nomidi -noadc -alsa -outchannels 2 -r 48000 -rt -audiobuf 50 -blocksize 256 patch.pd gives nothing but the default outpu of the card (hardware = hdmi probably = device 0), with no access to the minijack output (second device ), nore into audio menu setting... then, the only way to have audio output to the minijack is to run pd -alsaadd and audiodev 3 - please note stranges characters for audiooutdev 3: $ pd -nomidi -noadc -alsa -outchannels 2 -r 48000 -rt -audiobuf 50 -blocksize 256 -alsaadd default -audiooutdev 3 I see no clear doc othger than the help seems to be too short... Thank's you for your help, Fred

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Re: [PD] Webcam recommendations (linux/osx)
by Dario Pedrioli 20 Dec '12

20 Dec '12

We use too PS3-eye webcams on Linux for various IR input management (we don't output the input image) For our installation we have modified the lens part:removed original lens and replaced with a new one M12x0.5 lens mount + a set of cheap M12 for various distance. Image quality is not the best you can have but you have a great camera for less than 100 euro (including modifications) considering high framerate - very important for us. Ciao Dario

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Re: [PD] gui-plugin to creat objects
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 20 Dec '12

20 Dec '12

pdsend allows you to send any Pd message that you can send with [send] or [; foo( so you could think of it in terms of "how would I do that in Pd?" .hc On Dec 19, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Yeah but as you mention the connection is tricky so "Put" menu type messages > to pdsend won't cut it. I can't think of a way without making a temporary patch > and poisoning the clipboard, so I guess I have to do it in c. :( > > -Jonathan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> >> To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika(a)yahoo.com> >> Cc: "pd-list(a)iem.at" <pd-list(a)iem.at> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [PD] gui-plugin to creat objects >> >> >> Hmm, probably, but it might be tricky to make the connection. Look at the menu >> items for the Put menu. Basically you can use the pdsend proc to send messages >> like dynamic patching. >> >> .hc >> >> On Dec 19, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> >>> [bang( >>> | >>> [print hello_world] >>> >>> Is there a way to generate the object chain above in a gui-plugin and have >> it hanging from the mouse cursor? >>> >>> -Jonathan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>

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gui-plugin to creat objects
by Jonathan Wilkes 20 Dec '12

20 Dec '12

[bang( | [print hello_world] Is there a way to generate the object chain above in a gui-plugin and have it hanging from the mouse cursor? -Jonathan

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