Pd-list May 2011

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Re: [PD] problem with mixer project
by Fernando Gadea 07 May '11

07 May '11

> > Asunto: > Re: [PD] problem with mixer project > De: > Jose Luis Santorcuato <santorcuato76(a)gmail.com> > Fecha: > Fri, 6 May 2011 23:14:57 -0400 > Para: > Fernando Gadea <fgadea(a)gmail.com> > > Para: > Fernando Gadea <fgadea(a)gmail.com> > CC: > pd-list(a)iem.at > > > Hi...Â¿Kernel? ... probablemente debas compilar un kernel de baja > latencia...tiene poca ram y un procesador pequeÃ±o, igual deberÃa > funcionar... I am not really a power user, but I haven' t had latency problems before, so maybe this is not the central problem (but I understand that you may be right and I could improve performance with a kernel change, only that, if I can solve this latency problem in an easyer inside-puredata way, I will leave it for a later macro-system optimizing stage) > > Maybe you could compile a low latency kernel... your processor is > slow, but must go on... check the latency... > > Why you use Xubuntu??? try Ubuntu... i worked with open cv, pidip and > other in a little cpu... As Iohannes lets think, I use xfce for its lightness and minimalistic user interface. I hope there is not a problem in the interaction between puredata and xubuntu's xfce environment. > > Try mixer~ objetct Thank you, I will substitute the before-master audio mixing with this object and see if the problem solves, at least as an alternative try. Gracias, y mejores deseos Fernando > > Best regards > > JosÃ© > > El 6 de mayo de 2011 15:45, Fernando Gadea <fgadea(a)gmail.com > <mailto:fgadea@gmail.com>> escribiÃ³: > > Hi list! > I am trying to design a mixer with integrated effects on each > channel. The effects part is not started yet, and I have a > particular problem with the mixer itself: > > If I move any slider in my controller to raise the volume of any > channel, it works perfectly well, but if I move the master level > the latency starts to get crazy and the resulting values come > really slowly, and then if I move any other volume slider (of the > mixing channels of any other values in the master patch, being > instrument values or sequencer values) the latency still is really > big. > > I tryed deleting all the mixing channels and moving the master > level slider and there is no problem then, so I guess the problem > is in the mixing channels. > I also tryed deleting all the instruments and it didn't solve the > problem neither. > As you see the mixing channels are all abstractions (canalmezcla > n), and the master itself is one of these abstractions. > > I am running puredata Extended 0.41.4 in Xubuntu in an HP Pavilion > dv 1680us 1.83 Ghz + 1 Gb ram. I believe the hardware is not the > problem, and the rest of the patch works fine. > > Thanks for any tip! > > Fernando > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > -- > http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com > http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato > > >

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problem with mixer project
by Fernando Gadea 07 May '11

07 May '11

Hi list! I am trying to design a mixer with integrated effects on each channel. The effects part is not started yet, and I have a particular problem with the mixer itself: If I move any slider in my controller to raise the volume of any channel, it works perfectly well, but if I move the master level the latency starts to get crazy and the resulting values come really slowly, and then if I move any other volume slider (of the mixing channels of any other values in the master patch, being instrument values or sequencer values) the latency still is really big. I tryed deleting all the mixing channels and moving the master level slider and there is no problem then, so I guess the problem is in the mixing channels. I also tryed deleting all the instruments and it didn't solve the problem neither. As you see the mixing channels are all abstractions (canalmezcla n), and the master itself is one of these abstractions. I am running puredata Extended 0.41.4 in Xubuntu in an HP Pavilion dv 1680us 1.83 Ghz + 1 Gb ram. I believe the hardware is not the problem, and the rest of the patch works fine. Thanks for any tip! Fernando

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Re: [PD] auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
by Patrice Colet 07 May '11

07 May '11

ok, but pd-vanilla is actually 0.43 and has tcl/tk-8.4, while pd-extended is 0.42 and has tcl/tk-8.5, so now it's not possible to use the new plugin release without recompiling vanilla, or using a recent nightly build of pd-extended, that reduces a lot the chances for using it. I've installed the version 0.33 on vanilla and it doesn't look so bad, if it's just a matter of using pdsend instead of using pd it's possible to use both with this code: if {[llength [info procs ::pdsend]] == 0} { proc ::pdsend {args} {::pd "[join $args { }] ;"}} Miller, why pd-vanilla still uses 8.4 ??? I'm actually coding an interface that is 8.4 compatible but with weird behaviors, and working well with 8.5 and it's new options. ----- "yvan volochine" <yvan.pd(a)gmail.com> a écrit : > On 05/06/2011 08:16 PM, Patrice Colet wrote: > > thank you for this plugin, is it possible to have a 8.4 compatible > code? > > then it would be possible to load it within pd-vanilla > > no sorry I won't support tcl-8.4 (and its ugly fonts) > > note that gui-plugins work only in pd >= 0.43 (vanilla or not) > if you use pd-0.43 you should update tcl/tk to 8.5 anyway. > > cheers, > _y > > >> I found the time to refine autocompletion-plugin so I ended up > kinda > >> rewriting it (screenshot below). > >> > >> there are lots of changes, it would be nice if some of you could > test > >> it > >> and tell me what's wrong or what is weird etc... > >> > >> latest is here: > >> > http://github.com/gusano/pd_stuffs/tree/master/gui-plugins/autocompletion > >> > >> I tested it only on linux and pd-0.43.1-test2 (vanilla). > >> > >> list of changes: > >> > >> - new GUI (à la DesireData) > >> - added support for osx and win32 (untested) > >> - added bash-completion-mode behavior (more or less) > >> - added *.cfg file for options > >> - completions update while typing > >> - added 'All' mode (requested: completions popup as soon as you > type) > >> - hiting 'Enter' without the popup unedits and select the object > >> ... > >> > >> I'd like to track down bugs before releasing it this time ;) > >> > >> thanks for the help. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrice Colet

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very low cost computer
by Jack 07 May '11

07 May '11

This project could interest some people on this list : http://www.raspberrypi.org/ Specification : * 700MHz ARM11 * 128MB of SDRAM * OpenGL ES 2.0 * 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode * Composite and HDMI video output * USB 2.0 * SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot * General-purpose I/O * Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) The price is around 25$. ++ Jack

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[PD-announce] Music for Flesh II at LAC2011, biophysical music
by Marco Donnarumma 06 May '11

06 May '11

Dear all, briefly to mention I'll be playing Music for Flesh II tonight at the Linux Audio Conference in the section Electro-acoustic concerts. Concerts starts at 7pm. Music for Flesh II is a solo sonic piece for augmented muscles sounds. It aims at demonstrating an experimental coupling between theatrical gesture and biophysical generation and control of music. Based on the Xth Sense wearable technology (open source and DIY based). I'll also give a related paper on Sunday. Info: http://marcodonnarumma.com/works/music-for-flesh-ii/ http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/ Find here the complete schedule of LAC concerts: http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2011/?page=program&mode=table&day=0 Best wishes, -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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multiple [udpreceive n] instances
by Jamie Bullock 06 May '11

06 May '11

Hi all, It seems that both the mrpeach and iemnet udpreceive implementations are designed to not handle multiple object instances receiving on the same port. What I want to do is instantiate [udpreceive 5000] and then another [udpreceive 5000] I get the same data to both objects. Instead, in the case of mrpeach, the second object can't be instantiated, and iemnet/udpreceive just fails silently. Would the respective authors of these objects consider adding this 'multiple instances with same port' functionality? Alternatively, can anyone suggest away to achieve the same result with the existing objects? All best, Jamie

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iem-iemnet
by Willy WOLFF 05 May '11

05 May '11

Hi, Makefile for linux want to install VERSION.txt and CHANGELOG.txt but it doesn't exist in the tarball. Can you remove this from makefile, or add file? Thanks. Willy.

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Fwd: Re: old dfx-bufferoverride~
by Derek Holzer 05 May '11

05 May '11

Forwarding your private reply to list. Maybe some Flext guru still lives there... D. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [PD] old dfx-bufferoverride~ Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 16:32:12 +0200 From: Willy WOLFF <willy.wolff.0(a)gmail.com> To: Derek Holzer <derek(a)umatic.nl> I use pd-0.43 under GNU/Gentoo Linux I trying to load it in pd. Flext and dfx-library are installed. Willy. On 05/05/2011 04:27 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: > What I know is that you didn't give us much information... Are you > trying to compile this or trying to load it? What Pd version, > platform, etc? > > The external uses the Flext library, so you need it to compile. Flext > is no longer in Pd-Extended, if that is what you are using. > > D. > > On 5/5/11 4:03 PM, Willy WOLFF wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I would like to use this externals, but i have >> /usr/lib/pd/extra/bufferoverride~.pd_linux: >> /usr/lib/pd/extra/bufferoverride~.pd_linux: undefined symbol: >> _ZN17flext_base_single4InitEv >> >> Somebody know wath is this message? > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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old dfx-bufferoverride~
by Willy WOLFF 05 May '11

05 May '11

Hello, I would like to use this externals, but i have /usr/lib/pd/extra/bufferoverride~.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd/extra/bufferoverride~.pd_linux: undefined symbol: _ZN17flext_base_single4InitEv Somebody know wath is this message? Thanks. Willy.

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Re: [PD] [LAU] Pipe not working - or is it lame or oggdec
by Simon Wise 05 May '11

05 May '11

On 05/05/11 00:28, Daniel Worth wrote: > I think as long as people are aware at what point they need to license the > patent then they should be fine. If you are making $100,000+ a year from my > music a $2,000 per year fee isn't the end of the world. Likely if you are > generating that kind of income you can partner with a distributor who pays > this fee for you and so it isn't actually and issue either way. Consider a fictional band working here in Australia, trying to get to the point they may be able to actually pay themselves more than a bit of beer money, or perhaps even interest the distributor mentioned above. 5 musicians, doing some live gigs, sometimes touring interstate, paying for someone to mix and the travel costs from the fees they are paid before they get to pay themselves. They rent a place to rehearse, covering some of that rent by sharing it with other bands who pay them when the need it. They have some merchandise and cds they are selling at gigs etc, and are using that revenue to pay for studio time and someone to record them. To make some live opportunities for themselves they organise some events where they hire the venue and pay the technical costs, as well as organising several other bands to play, they pay these costs out of the door takings, and pay themselves and the other bands a split of what is left. The band will quite easily be over the $100,000 revenue while they are just earning pocket money as actual income for themselves. That $2000 would be much more usefully spent paying an engineer to help get a recording done than paying for the right to have mp3s on their laptop to play (or send) to someone who may be interested in their work. Mostly such a group chooses the 'pirate' path, but perhaps it's more in their interests to use a format that isn't considered illegal here without the $2000 payment to an organisation who are paying their employees and shareholders much more than pocket money. Simon

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