Pd-list December 2011

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GEM in 10.7
by Jaime Oliver 16 Apr '12

16 Apr '12

hi Everyone, I just compiled Gem-0.93.3 in OSX 10.7 and with Pd-0.43-0 and I get the following error when loading Pd and calling GEM: /Applications/Gem-0.93.3/src/.libs/Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Gem-0.93.3/src/.libs/Gem.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Applications/Gem-0.93.3/src/.libs/Gem.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture /Applications/Gem-0.93.3/src/.libs/Gem: can't load library I guess this is the 32 vs 64 bit issue? Are there any flags in the ./autogen.sh or in the ./configure I should be using? best, J -- Jaime E Oliver LR jo2357(a)columbia.edu www.jaimeoliver.pe 858 750 0924 (cel)

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pd_tuesday/ Berlin
by servando barreiro 16 Mar '12

16 Mar '12

Hello! Next tuesday there will be a first meeting of pure data users in Berlin: We are meeting at 8pm at NK for the monthy? puredata Meeting on tuesday 15 decc, 2009. Doors are open from 8-8:15. At other time, probably they are closed and you will have to call anybody in Nk.To get a telephone number to call or confirm assistance you can write to info(a)minitronics.net Elsenstr. 52 2HH 2Etage 12059 Berlin www.nkprojekt.de [bang(|[love]|[ser~]

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0.43 should still be a test version
by Matteo Sisti Sette 16 Mar '12

16 Mar '12

Hi, I tested Pd Vanilla 0.43 for just a couple of days (this was some weeks ago) and I found enough show-stopper regressions that I had to immediately revert to version 0.42.5. Version 0.43 still isn't mature enough to be used for purposes other than testing it. It should not be considered as the recommended release for "everyday use"; and most important, until it is stable, bug fixes should be still released for version 0.42. I am especially worried about this last thing, as now for example I have to choose between a version that can't broadcast UDP packets on Linux (0.42.5) and a version where the GUI may stop responding at any time (0.43.0). Here are three bugs that make it unusable, all of them are regressions: bug 3298989: suddenly all the gui objects of a certain type (e.g. all sliders) stop responding bug 3273884: mouse wheel scrolling doesn't work (it scrolls all the way down and all the way up in a single "step") bug 3273848: editing an object box is painful. Depending on where exactly you click, you may be unable to reach the last character (even with the right arrow key); you have to click on it several times until you are lucky. Note that this is not meant as criticism to the great effort that has been done to write Pd 0.43; if I am criticizing anything at all it is the decision to release it as a stable release superseding 0.42.5. It's just too soon. I understand that the more people download and use it, the sooner these bugs can be detected and fixed and the sooner PD 0.43 will be stable. But if testing has to be encouraged, it must be done in a fair way. People who are not downloading Pd for the sake of testing it, and who need to get the most stable version, should be aware that 0.43 is _not_ the version they should download. Cheers, m.

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IPA Vowel space analyzer
by Ludwig Maes 20 Feb '12

20 Feb '12

Hi, I was wondering how one would locate a vowel in the IPA vowel quadrangle using pd... Of course I would expect the corners of the vowel to depend on individual characteristics, but I dont know where to start. Anyone any ideas? Greetings, Ludwig

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Re: [PD] Patching in fragments
by Jonathan Wilkes 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

Cool. When I use the keyboard shortcut "o", something seems different about [osc~] but I can't quite put my finger on it (see attached) :) Is there a way for the Tcl plugin to tell pd to use the key bindings only in editmode, and only when there isn't an active cursor in an object or message box? Also, can the Tcl plugin do things like dangle the object from the mouse pointer (without using the mouse message hack) and remove the object (without the cut message hack)? The behavior I'm after is this: 1) click the shortcut key and the object fragment dangles from the mouse(or it gets put on the canvas and is selected). 2) if the same key is pressed again, that object is removed and the next object fragment associated with that key dangles from the mouse (or gets put on the canvas, selected). 3) if a different shortcut key is pressed, the fragment gets put on the canvas (unselected) and the new fragment dangles from the mouse. I can get that behavior in my abstraction, but it messes with the clipboard data, plus it's dangerous because if you have part of your patch selected and you hit a shortcut key that part of the patch is lost (and you can't undo it!). -Jonathan --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] Patching in fragments > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: "PD List" <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 6:48 AM > > Looks promising. Here is another approach as an 0.43 > Tcl plugin. I couldn't figure out how to do > connections, but I didn't try very hard. Drop this > file in the "pd/startup" folder of 0.43, or in the path. > > > > > .hc > > On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:25 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > Here's a remix of a patch by Luke Iannini to get it to > do something I've > > been wanting to try: shortcut keys for scrolling > through a list of > > patch fragments. > > > > I'm just using the cut, paste, and mouse msg hacks so > it works in > > pd-vanilla. But it would be cool to see > something like this as a more > > general feature in pd. > > > > If you wanna play with it just open test.pd and read > the comments. > > > > -Jonathan > > > > > > > <smartasdf.zip>_______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at > mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Free software means you control what your computer does. > Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to > some extent controls you." - Richard M. Stallman > > >

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probleme with make after ./configure --enable-jack
by prince ba 14 Feb '12

14 Feb '12

Hi When I compile pd-extended after ./configure --enable-jack I get : etc………… … undefined reference to `jack_port_register' /home/caracteriel/Pd-0.42.5-extended/pd/src/s_audio_jack.c:341: undefined reference to `jack_port_register' s_audio_jack.o: In function `jack_connect_ports': /home/caracteriel/Pd-0.42.5-extended/pd/src/s_audio_jack.c:210: undefined reference to `jack_port_name' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [../bin/pdextended] Error 1 I use Ubuntu. Jack is installed with .deb Any Ideas ? Cdt -- <http://caracteriel.wordpress.com/> http://audioblog.arteradio.com/caracteriel/ Combien de gens ne sont abstraits que pour paraître profond

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Re: [PD] number to fractions external?
by Alexandre Torres Porres 12 Feb '12

12 Feb '12

when I "change the maximum denominator value" results are weird and Pd freezes. cheers 2011/12/17 Mike Moser-Booth <mmoserbooth(a)gmail.com> > I just added it to my library on GitHub: > > https://github.com/dotmmb/mmb > > But, yeah, feel free to use it however you want. > > .mmb > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres > <porres(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > this looks great huh? > > > > I have this pd examples that deal with tuning theory, are you releasing > this > > somewhere so i can use it? > > > > thanks > > alex > > > > > > 2011/12/17 Mike Moser-Booth <mmoserbooth(a)gmail.com> > >> > >> They're not working? Huh... Well, here's the text versions: > >> > >> dec2frac.mmb.pd: > >> > >> #N canvas 60 22 908 750 10; > >> #X obj 298 36 inlet; > >> #X obj 573 359 t l; > >> #X obj 240 574 list; > >> #X obj 198 415 sel 0; > >> #X obj 207 168 expr 1/$f1; > >> #X obj 478 359 list append; > >> #N canvas 203 22 687 744 simplify 0; > >> #X obj 144 28 inlet; > >> #X obj 198 155 list length; > >> #X obj 145 132 t l l; > >> #X obj 165 214 spigot; > >> #X obj 51 239 spigot; > >> #X obj 84 213 == 1; > >> #X obj 205 275 list split 2; > >> #X obj 98 423 pack f f; > >> #X obj 272 371 list split 1; > >> #X obj 237 340 list; > >> #X obj 198 188 > 1; > >> #X obj 98 377 expr $f2*$f1+1 \; $f1; > >> #X obj 305 513 list append; > >> #X obj 305 541 expr $f1*$f2+$f3 \; $f2; > >> #X obj 307 589 pack f f; > >> #X obj 229 423 t b l; > >> #X obj 226 631 list; > >> #X obj 97 448 t l l; > >> #X obj 102 687 outlet; > >> #X text 206 80 converts the continued fraction form into a simple > fraction > >> ; > >> #X connect 0 0 2 0; > >> #X connect 1 0 5 0; > >> #X connect 1 0 10 0; > >> #X connect 2 0 3 0; > >> #X connect 2 0 4 0; > >> #X connect 2 1 1 0; > >> #X connect 3 0 6 0; > >> #X connect 4 0 18 0; > >> #X connect 5 0 4 1; > >> #X connect 6 0 11 0; > >> #X connect 6 1 9 1; > >> #X connect 7 0 17 0; > >> #X connect 8 0 12 0; > >> #X connect 8 1 9 1; > >> #X connect 8 2 16 0; > >> #X connect 9 0 8 0; > >> #X connect 10 0 3 1; > >> #X connect 11 0 7 0; > >> #X connect 11 1 7 1; > >> #X connect 12 0 13 0; > >> #X connect 13 0 14 0; > >> #X connect 13 1 14 1; > >> #X connect 14 0 15 0; > >> #X connect 15 0 9 0; > >> #X connect 15 1 16 1; > >> #X connect 15 1 12 1; > >> #X connect 16 0 18 0; > >> #X connect 17 0 15 0; > >> #X connect 17 1 12 1; > >> #X restore 478 385 pd simplify; > >> #X obj 325 713 outlet; > >> #X obj 368 630 list; > >> #X obj 479 411 t l l; > >> #X obj 596 577 sel 1; > >> #X obj 281 348 spigot; > >> #X msg 336 349 0; > >> #X obj 281 372 t f b; > >> #X obj 505 438 list split 1; > >> #X obj 535 469 route bang; > >> #X msg 333 382 1; > >> #X text 41 573 This is just here for debugging; > >> #X obj 634 406 loadbang; > >> #X obj 634 427 f \$1; > >> #X text 612 683 .mmb; > >> #X text 638 625 TODO: implement decrementing rules; > >> #X obj 102 674 prepend set; > >> #X obj 300 210 expr if($f1<0 \, int($f1-1) \, int($f1)) \; $f1; > >> #X obj 310 268 expr $f2-$f1 \; $f1; > >> #X text 533 211 floor; > >> #X obj 628 36 inlet; > >> #X obj 628 123 max 1; > >> #X obj 596 556 > 1000; > >> #X obj 298 100 t b b f b; > >> #N canvas 0 22 450 300 test.if.integer 0; > >> #X obj 206 117 expr int($f1)==$f1; > >> #X obj 151 28 inlet; > >> #X obj 151 64 t f f; > >> #X obj 129 186 spigot; > >> #X obj 179 186 spigot; > >> #X obj 164 160 != 1; > >> #X obj 129 242 outlet; > >> #X obj 179 242 outlet; > >> #X msg 179 214 \$1 1; > >> #X connect 0 0 4 1; > >> #X connect 0 0 5 0; > >> #X connect 1 0 2 0; > >> #X connect 2 0 3 0; > >> #X connect 2 0 4 0; > >> #X connect 2 1 0 0; > >> #X connect 3 0 6 0; > >> #X connect 4 0 8 0; > >> #X connect 5 0 3 1; > >> #X connect 8 0 7 0; > >> #X restore 298 76 pd test.if.integer; > >> #X obj 403 111 s \$0-to.outlet; > >> #X obj 395 671 r \$0-to.outlet; > >> #X msg 101 698; > >> #X obj 634 452 max 1; > >> #X obj 306 157 until; > >> #X obj 335 134 r \$0-stop.until; > >> #X obj 306 183 f; > >> #X obj 127 483 s \$0-stop.until; > >> #X obj 595 604 s \$0-stop.until; > >> #X connect 0 0 30 0; > >> #X connect 1 0 5 1; > >> #X connect 2 0 22 0; > >> #X connect 3 0 8 0; > >> #X connect 3 0 38 0; > >> #X connect 3 1 4 0; > >> #X connect 4 0 23 0; > >> #X connect 5 0 1 0; > >> #X connect 5 0 2 1; > >> #X connect 5 0 6 0; > >> #X connect 6 0 9 0; > >> #X connect 8 0 7 0; > >> #X connect 9 0 8 1; > >> #X connect 9 1 14 0; > >> #X connect 10 0 8 0; > >> #X connect 10 0 39 0; > >> #X connect 10 1 16 0; > >> #X connect 11 0 13 0; > >> #X connect 12 0 11 1; > >> #X connect 13 0 3 0; > >> #X connect 13 1 12 0; > >> #X connect 14 1 15 0; > >> #X connect 15 0 16 0; > >> #X connect 15 1 28 0; > >> #X connect 16 0 11 1; > >> #X connect 18 0 19 0; > >> #X connect 19 0 34 0; > >> #X connect 22 0 33 0; > >> #X connect 23 0 24 0; > >> #X connect 23 1 24 1; > >> #X connect 24 0 11 0; > >> #X connect 24 1 5 0; > >> #X connect 26 0 27 0; > >> #X connect 27 0 10 1; > >> #X connect 28 0 10 0; > >> #X connect 29 0 2 0; > >> #X connect 29 1 35 0; > >> #X connect 29 2 37 1; > >> #X connect 29 3 5 1; > >> #X connect 29 3 8 1; > >> #X connect 30 0 29 0; > >> #X connect 30 1 31 0; > >> #X connect 32 0 7 0; > >> #X connect 34 0 28 1; > >> #X connect 35 0 37 0; > >> #X connect 36 0 35 1; > >> #X connect 37 0 23 0; > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> dec2frac.mmb-help.pd: > >> > >> #N canvas 431 22 944 500 10; > >> #X obj 25 12 cnv 15 400 35 empty empty dec2frac.mmb 20 12 0 14 -4160 > >> -203904 0; > >> #X obj 25 48 cnv 15 400 70 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -203904 -66577 > >> 0; > >> #X text 812 417 .mmb; > >> #X text 45 48 Converts a decimal number into its fractional form. The > >> accuracy is determined by the argument. Irrational numbers \, such > >> as pi \, don't have fractional representations. So you should make > >> the argument high enough for as accurate an approximation that suits > >> you.; > >> #X text 468 49 [dec2frac.mmb max_denominator]; > >> #X msg 71 172 3.14159; > >> #X msg 136 199 3.75; > >> #X msg 149 245 -0.625; > >> #X obj 113 338 unpack f f; > >> #X floatatom 113 364 0 0 0 0 - - -; > >> #X floatatom 170 384 0 0 0 0 - - -; > >> #X obj 131 423 /; > >> #X floatatom 131 450 0 0 0 0 - - -; > >> #X floatatom 223 252 5 0 0 0 - - -; > >> #X text 263 252 change the maximum denominator value; > >> #X text 194 333 outputs a list of <numerator> <denominator>; > >> #X text 487 69 arg1 <optional>: the maximum size of the denominator. > >> Higher values result in more accurate estimations \, but more > computation. > >> Default is 1000; > >> #X floatatom 48 255 0 0 0 0 - - -; > >> #X obj 113 296 dec2frac.mmb 1000; > >> #X text 526 305 This algorithm is based on best rational approximation > >> using continued fractions. It currently does not implement rules for > >> decrementing the last value of the continued fraction form \, so it > >> is not as accurate as it could be.; > >> #X connect 5 0 18 0; > >> #X connect 6 0 18 0; > >> #X connect 7 0 18 0; > >> #X connect 8 0 9 0; > >> #X connect 8 1 10 0; > >> #X connect 9 0 11 0; > >> #X connect 10 0 11 1; > >> #X connect 11 0 12 0; > >> #X connect 13 0 18 1; > >> #X connect 17 0 18 0; > >> #X connect 18 0 8 0; > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres > >> <porres(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > hi there, how do i get the attachments you're sending to the list? > >> > > >> > thanks > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mike Moser-Booth > >> mmoserbooth(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > -- > Mike Moser-Booth > mmoserbooth(a)gmail.com >

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cartopol~ outputs inverted phases (bug report)
by Alexandre Torres Porres 30 Jan '12

30 Jan '12

Hi there, just noticed that [cartopol~] outputs phases that are negative when they should be positive and vice versa. this is in comparison to [cartopol] and even [atan2~] or [expr~ atan2($v2, $v1)] cheers

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questions about PD-extended 0.43 build on Mac (GUI-oriented)
by Scott R. Looney 23 Jan '12

23 Jan '12

hey folks, new PD user here, coming from Max 5 on a Mac and trying to rewrite my patch in PD. i read about the new .43 branch builds of pd-extended and how they had a few usability improvements over the older branches. so far i've downloaded the 12/21 and 12/30 builds of pd-extended for Mac. i'll have lots of questions but for now these will suffice: 1. is there a way to get the right click context menu for objects working in .43 on the Mac? i read that a GUI plugin is responsible for this, but it seems it should be included in this extended build. 2. also read about key bindings-VERY interested in this as i have some RSI issues and shortcuts would be helpful for common tasks. 3. is there a way to edit GUI characteristics (global font size, key bindings,etc) by changing some items in a config text file? i've read that the rewrite uses Tcl/Tk but i'm not really a programmer though i can edit and modify simple CSS or PHP scripts. 4. lastly - i know the 0.43 branch is considered experimental, but if there's a relatively stable .43 Mac build somewhere that could be recommended it would be appreciated. the Dec 21 build is OK though right-clicking to get Properties or Help lags a lot. thanks in advance, scott

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0.43 on Ubuntu Lucid: GUI not right
by rolf meesters 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

hi i don't know if this is a bug or a misfit. compiled latest 0.43 source on Ubuntu Lucid (Pentium 4). a GEM patch works faultlesly. with one audio patch, the GUI stays half finished, soundwise the patch seems ok. in the console there are red messages apparently from Tcl. (attached pic1). closing the patch generates a new message over and over: x97fc258 no such object (pic2). with another audio abstraction the GUI is correct, also all included abstractions. closing the patch generates again endlessly:x8483958 no such object. a third patch: audio ok, no GUI at all. it's not possible to change something in the console. here again like in pic1: Tcl UNHANDLED ERROR: wrong # args: should be "::pdwindow::logpost object_id level message" all patches are happy in 0.42.5 on W-XP and on 0.43.1-2011103 on Windows 7. bug or misfit? rolf

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