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compiling pd-extended on arch linux
by James Dunn 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

Hi list, I am trying to compile pd-extended on arch linux according to the instructions here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource I checked out svn and follwed the instructions here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended make install fails with: GemPixImageLoad.cpp:64:23: fatal error: Magick++.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated I have ImageMagick installed and Magick++.h is in /usr/include/ImageMagick/ as well as /usr/local/include/ImageMagick Do I have to modify my path or something? thanks James

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Re: [PD] Pd on Maemo N900
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

On Jul 3, 2010, at 4:33 AM, atuc wrote: > On 28.05.2010 21:19, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> Try the pd-mobile branch, I integrated the ESD code from PD-anywhere >> into it, its Pd-vanilla, more or less: >> >> https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/by-author/… >> >> >> .hc > > hallo hans, > this link is not working? is there another place to download? > > thanks. > alex Oops, sorry, that has moved: https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-mobile-… .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: [PD] a toggle matrix
by Kim Cascone 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

> > [#many tgl 10 20] wow! thanks Mathieu!! this is *fantastic*!

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[PD-announce] Thursday July 8, Summer at FLAG Opening, NYC
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

I worked on the Magnum Photos exhibit, that's where I've been for the past week or two. The opening is tomorrow, in conjunction with some interesting stuff on the floor below. Come join in if you are nearby. The whole thing was realized using Pd-extended/Gem on 10 Ubuntu/Lucid Dell computers and one Mac mini. > The FLAG Art Foundation > invites you to the opening of > SUMMER @ FLAG > Thursday, July 8 > 6-8 PM > The FLAG Art Foundation, 545 West 25th Street, 9th Floor > > 9th FLOOR > Noriko Ambe > - ARTISTS BOOKS, Linear-Actions Cutting Project > - pronounced KIRU means cut in Japanese. This solo exhibition of New > York based artist Noriko Ambe is comprised of a specific selection > of artist books that were the result of an ongoing exploration by > the artist. Utilizing twenty art monographs from artists such as > Damien Hirst, Andy Warhol, and Tom Friedman, Ambe has meticulously > cut hundreds of varying shapes and lines into each page of each > book, creating intricately controlled biomorphic and sculptural > fissures. Immersing herself in the body of work encompassed by each > monograph, Ambe evaluated the nature of her connection with each > artist and specific works - this aided in her decision of what to > subtract and what to reveal. > > Jennifer Dalton > MAKING SENSE > Like an archaeologist of the present-day, Jennifer Dalton collects > and examines cultural information, organizes and evaluates this > information according to her own personal criteria, and then > displays her findings. These displays take the form of drawings, > photographs or sculptural installations consisting of assembled or > handmade objects. In Making Sense, she analyzes the cultural > institutions Facebook, the New Yorker, and Artforum, testing her own > biases and hypotheses and applying taxonomies where they might not > be expected. Her process is quasi-scientific, at the intersection > where apparently objective data encounters low-tech and personal > methods and conclusions. > > Robert Lazzarini > guns, knives, brass knuckles > guns, knives, brass knuckles, is an installation and exhibition of > sculpture by New York based artist Robert Lazzarini. All of Robert > Lazzarini's sculptures of the past decade begin with what the artist > calls a 'normative object'. The works in the exhibition start with a > set of common kitchen knives (chefs, paring, pruning, cleaver, > etc.), a .38 Smith & Wesson Model 10 revolver, and a unembellished > pair of brass knuckles. These objects are then subjected to > mathematical distortions and fabricated out of the materials that > are original to the objects themselves: blued carbon steel and > walnut for guns, stainless steel, wood and plastic for knives; and > yellow brass for brass knuckles. The combination of these > distortions with the lack of any conventionally artistic 'material > translation' (e.g. a car out of cardboard; flesh out of marble) > renders these objects familiar yet strange and difficult, quite > literally, to grasp. In canting the gallery's walls, Lazzarini > extends the dislocation exercised on his objects to the space of > their display. This altered environment not only further subjects > one's perceptions to a kind of visual slippage, but also connects > Lazzarini to a lineage of artists, from Richard Serra to Alberto > Giacometti, distinctly concerned with processes of perception and > visual abstraction. > > 10th FLOOR > The Magnum Mark > SELECTIONS FROM THE MAGNUM PHOTOS ARCHIVE > The signature styles of Magnum's photographers and their commitment > to documenting the world have brought each of them individual > acclaim. But it is their collective and it's archive, with its > wealth of iconic images, that have guaranteed their influence on > Twentieth and early Twenty-First Century visual culture. As digital > technology usurps analogue, in both the taking and distribution of > photographic work, the physical print archive, once at the heart of > Magnum's business, has taken on a new role as a resource for > scholarship and exhibition. This exhibition sets out to celebrate > the legacy of Magnum's print archive, uncovering the processes > behind traditional, manual, image dissemination, interpreting the > mysterious marks on the back of press prints and demonstrating the > craft of printing Magnum's famous photographs. It also looks to our > digital future, in which technological innovation and the world wide > web have created exciting new models to deliver, and re-interpret > Magnum's photography. > > Featured within the exhibition will be previously unseen press > prints, darkroom "print maps", original contact sheets and > additional ephemera from Magnum's New York archive alongside a new > media component. > > > 545 West 25th Street, 9th Floor > New York, New York 10001 > www.flagartfoundation.org > > > > > Forward email _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question
by Ben Baker-Smith 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

I think the point was simply that Miller deserves credit for his essential contributions to pd. I don't think this is the place to discuss your problems with SLOC and COCOMO. Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com > I have no idea. I just meant that if anyone deserves to be cooked meals > > because of Pd related things, then it's Miller. That is a lot of lines > > of source code (only 25,000 of them are portaudio/portmidi). > > First of all, if you consider portaudio and portmidi like the separate > projects that they are and that Miller didn't write and that is not really > part of Pd in any way, the total SLOC drops to 68000. > > Next, Miller is not completely alone in writing Pd. You probably know that > already. It's not even a very small or neglectible amount. In SLOC count, > Thomas Musil contributed 10% of the source code alone, as the original > author of the IEMGUI library. > > Then you probably know what is copy-paste. IIRC, about 1300 lines of code > of IEMGUI can be explained by a one-liner sed | diff | wc command. Then > there is other copy-paste in places like d_math.c and x_arithmetic.c for > which I made the demonstration that they can be shrunk to less than 20% of > their size using macros *while* keeping all optimisations in. (not sure I > posted on the lists about it, though). > > Then the "basic COCOMO model" does not take copy-paste into account, > therefore it's na?ve at best, a fraud at worst. It's also highly dependent > on many other things it shouldn't be dependent on, thus it's most > certainly unlikely to be accurate at all. > > Braces change the SLOC. The 72-character maximum that comes from IBM > punchcards) changes the SLOC. Statement size changes the SLOC (say > something short as two statements, you have two lines, but say it as one, > you have one line). Think about it, you even charge for the blank lines > and all the lines that say /********/ , no matter how many a given > programmer decides to put. > > All the Basic COCOMO model ever does correctly is punish any people who > try to save on the number of lines of code. >

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multicast send/receive?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

When making installations, I find its common that the IP addresses of the machines have to change when they are moved from the dev setting to the final installation. Or sometimes DHCP servers fail, etc. Currently, I'm using udpsend/udpreceive and the broadcast address 255.255.255.255 so that it'll work with any IP range, including the self-assigned one. I ran into a problem with that because it seemed that on Mac OS X with two active network interfaces, the messages sent to 255.255.255.255 only went out on one network interface. To get around this, I think having a multicast send/receive would work quite well. MaxMSP has maxhole which is basically that, and I've heard its quite commonly used. Any chance of one of you Pd networking people (Martin, IOhannes, Ico?) or someone else also finding this useful and making it? :-D .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste

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Floats and negative numbers over OSC
by PSPunch 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Hi, Can someone advise me on the current state of receiving floats and negative numbers over OSC? (on Windows) It seems like both [dumpOSC] and [routeOSC] treats the 4 byte input as an integer, ignoring the format. I've looked through the log but found only similar voices and no solution.. Thanks in advance. -- David Shimamoto

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a toggle matrix
by Felix Obée 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

hi, i'm pretty new to pd so please don't flame me completely if i am talking nonsense here. i am looking for an object that will give me an interactive binary matrix, where i can switch each individual value by clicking on it, like a toggle. use would be for example a step sequencer with x rows, controlling a led matrix or, in my case, a matrix of speakers. i did some research but couldn't find anything like that mentioned in the list or the wiki. building such a thing manually with an estimated number of 200 toggles would be quite tiresome... thx for the help felix ... ------------------------------------------- Felix Obée Weichselstr. 35 12045 Berlin Phone: 0178 / 49 31 008 Phone: 030 / 55957397 Mail: felix(a)amphibiousthoughts.com http://amphibiousthoughts.com http://dj.amphibiousthoughts.com -------------------------------------------

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Formants in puredata : Problem to compile flext in Ubuntu lucyd
by linediconsine＠gmail.com 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Hi! I need to use formants in realtime and I found : sms_peak based on flext. I doesnt found a binary for osx, or ubuntu so I start compiling. My first error for flext is : ~/pd-flext/flext$ sudo ./build.sh pd gcc build [sudo] password for marco: make -f ./buildsys/gnumake-sub.mak PLATFORM=lnx RTSYS=pd COMPILER=gcc BUILDPATH=./buildsys/ PKGINFO=package.txt BUILDCLASS=flext USRCONFIG=config.txt USRMAKE=build/gnumake-lnx-gcc.inc TARGETMODE=release TARGETTYPE=single _build_ make[1]: Entering directory `/home/marco/pd-flext/flext' mkdir -p pd-linux/release-single/ g++ -c -msse -mfpmath=sse -ffast-math -O3 -pthread -fPIC -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -DFLEXT_USE_SIMD -DNDEBUG -DFLEXT_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -DPD -I/usr/local/src/pd/src -I/usr/include/stk -I/usr/include/sndobj source/flbase.cpp -o pd-linux/release-single/flbase.opp source/flbase.cpp:32:22: error: g_canvas.h: No such file or directory source/flbase.cpp: In static member function ‘static bool flext_obj_single::GetParamSym(t_atom&, const t_symbol*, _glist*)’: source/flbase.cpp:134: error: ‘canvas_realizedollar’ was not declared in this scope source/flbase.cpp:137: error: ‘canvas_realizedollar’ was not declared in this scope make[1]: *** [pd-linux/release-single/flbase.opp] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/marco/pd-flext/flext' make: *** [build-release-single] Error 2 Thanks for suggestions and help! -- Marco Amato

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software license for pd general patch?
by João Pais 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Hello all, I'm doing last touches in a Pd patch that is a general tool to make click tracks. That can (and hopefully will) be used by any musicians, such as instrumentalists, conductors, composers, ... The patch is/will be available free of charge, only paypal donations are accepted (or suggested). But I'm considering using a different license than the general BSD license I usually ship my abstractions with. Since it's a rather complex patch (and if I get any grants to continue to work on it, it might get even more complex), I would prefer for people not to edit it too much - although most of the people using it won't be able even to open the gop. Another aspect is to prevent anyone to grab the code and do a commercial version of it. Not that it will happen anytime soon, but it might be a possibility. I was thinking of instead the BSD to use a CC license, the "Attribution No Derivatives" one - http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/. Basically something that allows people to disseminate the program (even though is available online), but without them changing it (or not without my consent/knowledge). Does anyone of you has any experience with this, or can suggest a more efficient way of thinking about this? Best, JoÃ£o Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp

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