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[PD-announce] JOURNEE OFF PD. Présentation de projets avec Pure Data + Discussion sur la doc francophone de pd
by Jack 14 May '10

14 May '10

In french only, sorry ! ++ Jack CENTRE DE RESSOURCES ART SENSITIF À MAINS D'ŒUVRES HTTP://WWW.CRASLAB.ORG JOURNÉE OFF PD Le samedi 15 mai Entrée libre Cet événement ouvert aux publics permet aux participants des cours du soir Pure data (formateurs et stagiaires) de cette année de présenter leurs réalisations, partager leurs savoirs-faire et expériences. *LES PRÉSENTATIONS* à partir de 14 H dans la salle Star Trek (2ème ét.) - Voix, accordéon, Pd, clavier de Pierre Mourles - Pure GPS de Jean-Baptiste Merland - Prime Time, avec Jacques Chevrel et Stéphane Privat - Patatas de goma, de Jérôme Abel - Technique mixte, de Farah Khelil, présenté par Sami Majri - VOST, de Jean-Marie Boyer - Pièce sonore pour montée de sève, du LAAB, présenté par Hugo Roger - Yroyto lost, de Elie Blanchard - Difraact de Grégoire Talon - Schwartzpeter et pure data pour une console lumière, de Joseph Jaouen et Hugo Roger *PDPÉDIA & LA DOCUMENTATION FRANCOPHONE DE PD* À partir de 17H dans le restaurant de Mains d'Œuvres (Rez-de-chaussée) Avec Technique mixte, une installation interactive de Farah Khelil. Cet événement public est une discussion ouverte sur pdpédia et la documentation francophone du logiciel Pure Data en général. L'idée de cette discussion est de créer un lien entre les avis des experts et développeurs, et la réalité des jeunes utilisateurs de pd, pour que tous s'approprient la documentation de pure data. Ce logiciel est libre, il appartient à chacun de nous de le faire avancer en fonction de nos besoins. Des développeurs de la communauté francophone sont en discussion sur la mise en place d'outils de documentation de pd depuis longtemps, plusieurs pistes ont été proposées mais aucune décision n'est prise, les avis divergent, le sujet est complexe. Jérôme Abel et Jean-Marie Boyer vous proposent dans un premier temps de vous rapporter plusieurs avis contradictoires sur la question, de vous transmettre un maximum d'informations tirées des listes de discussion dédiées à Pure Data. À l'issue de cette présentation, nous vous proposons d'apporter vos propres avis à travers des petits jeux de prise de parole sur une problématique à la fois, liée à la forme et aux contenus que pourrait appréhender cette documentation. Nous rapporterons cette session de discussion à l'ensemble de la communauté pure data francophone. _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] Stable Pd-extended package for Ubuntu 10.04LTS?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 14 May '10

14 May '10

On May 8, 2010, at 1:18 PM, mark hadman wrote: > On 8 May 2010 17:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote: >> Please report the crashes on 042.5 so we can fix them. That's the >> Pd-extended version targeted at 10.04. > > OK... could you confirm a couple of facts for me, since there is such > a mess of info out there... Are you a journalist? Or the inquisition? ;-) > (1) You (Hans) are the 'main' known maintainer/builder of pd-extended, > at least for debian/ubuntu? I suppose you could say that. > (2) There are no stable builds of pd-extended for Karmic or Lucid > (yet)? beta quality, so its a great time to report bugs since we are working on the release! http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/ > pd-ext just completely disappeared on me, twice, while editing > completely different stuff within the space of two hours. Neither > error was easily reproducible (ie going back and doing more or less > the same again didn't crash pd again). If I try the nightly build > again I will run it from a terminal and try to document errors (where > - on this list?), but in all seriousness I just need a rock-stable > system to code and perform on - if there's no such thing for Lucid yet > I may have to go (reluctantly) go for pd-vanilla or puredyne. If you can reproduce those bugs, then they are pretty easy to fix. .hc > > thanks for replying, > > mark h > > >> >> .hc >> >> On May 8, 2010, at 9:02 AM, mark hadman wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm wondering if there's a stable pd-extended available for Ubuntu >>> 10.04 LTS yet. >>> >>> I've tried the lucid nightly build from 7th May (A couple of random >>> crashes made me uninstall it pretty damn quick), and I've tried the >>> repository (Jaunty version), which had unsatisfiable dependencies. >>> >>> Anyone doing better? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means >> we don't >> have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of >> Environmentalism", by >> Curtis White >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler

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[PD-announce] High Spheres - Open air multi-channel participative concert @ Re-New Festival, Copenhagen, Denmark
by Marco Donnarumma 14 May '10

14 May '10

Dear all, On 18th May at 19.30 I'll be performing 'High Spheres' a participative multi-channel concert for found objects and reactive generative music for the opening of Re-New Digital Arts Festival, Huset i Magstræde*, *Copenhagen, Denmark. I actually provide only the software and what the music will be like only depends on the people participating. The action takes place open air. No musical instruments are provided, but stones and leaves. Audience can use 6 microphones/loudspeakers to amplify any kind of sound they wish to produce. The whole sonic matter is managed by a Pd-based software, which interacts with the audience processing in real-time the sounds they produce, analyzing the input signals and generating new sounds out of the collected data. An endless sonic data flow which, once started, will live and grow beyond the time-space of the action. If you're in the city you're very welcome to join our self-organized orchestra... Further info: http://marcodonnarumma.com/works/high-spheres/ the audio excerpt there is quite old and was made in AudioMulch, the Pd patch I developed now sounds much more interesting, hope to record the session and post it here. http://re-new.org/program/ @ Thomas Grrr.. I saw you'll be there too, it will be a pleasure to meet you! -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[PD-announce] [wiimote] for ubuntu
by Roman Haefeli 14 May '10

14 May '10

Hi all I created a package of the [wiimote] external, written by Mike Wozniewki; MotionPlus support added by IOhannes m zmoelnig: https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps Note: In order to enable support for MotionPlus on Karmic (and older), I had to backport the cwiid packages from Lucid to Karmic (and older). I hope this does not break other packages depending on cwiid. Have Fun (and report bugs)! Roman _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Does GEM need X-Server to be running
by Ingo Scherzinger 14 May '10

14 May '10

Sorry, this may be a pretty stupid question but since I'm new to GEM I have no idea. Does GEM need X-Server to be running or does it connect directly to the graphic card? Ingo

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Re: [PD] [unpackOSC] wrong packet crash
by patko 14 May '10

14 May '10

I didn't pay attention about how things have changed, for python modules loading, my bad. Please just put the attached __init__.py and fixed oscAPI.py in same folder for replacing malfunctioning files. > > I get: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "E:\martin\pd_patches\oscCRASH\oscCRASH\sendOSC.py", line 1, > > in > > <module> > > import osc > > File "E:\martin\pd_patches\oscCRASH\oscCRASH\osc\__init__.py", > line > > > > 8, in <module> > > from OSC import * > > ImportError: No module named OSC > > > > Which OSC? > > Martin > > it should be OSC.py !? > > I didn't try on IDLE, maybe I should make a test...

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Re: [PD] [unpackOSC] wrong packet crash
by patko 14 May '10

14 May '10

----- "Martin Peach" <martin.peach(a)sympatico.ca> a écrit : > telling me, although a patch that reliably causes the crash would be > nice to see. I've attached an archive containing the files for testing the crash it needs a python 3 interpreter or blender 2.5(, that should be easy to get on the website, strike p key, when cursor is over the scene, for running the script inside the blend file sending osc packet) I didn't have patience to find out how to trig the crash on python 2. there is the simple-osc module I'm working on, this should send /foo bar to [udpreceive], when launching the python script. And the patch to apply to OSC.py for corrupting the packet. or just rename files. > I find it amusing hat Pd is able to peg all of these advanced > operating > systems that are supposedly able to control themselves. It must be one > > of the biggest security threats around. > I don't know, this seems to be the joys of unstables Operating Systems, using windows vista here.

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gameport joystick in pd-extended?
by Tyler Leavitt 14 May '10

14 May '10

Hey all, So I've googled to find nothing... how do I get joystick from the old PC gameport connections (15-pin)? Tyler

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Re: [PD] problems using pd with 120 dpi
by Matt Barber 14 May '10

14 May '10

> I'm using Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100428 and Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 :-) > > Am 2010-04-28 20:07, schrieb Thomas Holzmann: >> Hello, >> >> I'm using the latest pd-extended and have display problems when using >> pd on a screen which is set to 120 dpi. Then most of the texts don't >> fit into the boxes. When I change the screen to 96 dpi everything >> works fine. >> >> I assume that's a problem with tk scaling!? >> >> Does someone know a solution for this? >> On Fedora/CCRMA I use the following stupid wrapper (it's a hack). #!/bin/bash shopt -s -o monitor xrdb -merge /usr/local/lib/pd_fonthelper /usr/bin/pd $@ & sleep 1 xrdb -merge /etc/X11/Xresources fg 1 pd_fonthelper is just: Xft.dpi: 72 Obviously you would change this to fit whatever dpi was working for you before. I also had to comment out some lines in pd.tk which test for 8.5 and change font size accordingly; once I did, all my Pd font problems melted away. Matt

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Re: [PD] ERROR building pd-0.41.4_EXTENDED from source on OSX snow leopard
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 14 May '10

14 May '10

I just noticed that you are trying to build 0.41.4. I think you'll have better luck with 0.42.5, so try this: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource Specifically, something like this in the Terminal: rsync -av --delete rsync://128.238.56.50/distros/pd-extended/ pd- extended/ cd pd-extended/packages/darwin_app make install make package .hc On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:52 AM, t'es in t'es bat wrote: > hello thanks hans but where do i put this command ? > > 2010/4/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > > Update your source code with rsync or "svn update". That's been > fixed. > > .hc > > On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:47 AM, t'es in t'es bat wrote: > >> Hello, >> i'll try to build from source >> i follow the howto from the pd.info website. >> >> and i got this: >> >> new-host-4:~ lepole$ cd /Users/lepole/Desktop/Pd-0.41.4-extended/ >> packages/darwin_app >> new-host-4:darwin_app lepole$ make install && make package >> cat Info.plist.in | \ >> sed 's/PD_APP_NAME/Pd-extended/' | \ >> sed 's/CFBUNDLESHORTVERSIONSTRING/0.41.4/' | \ >> sed 's/CFBUNDLEVERSION/2010.04.28/' > \ >> Info.plist >> install -d "/Users/lepole/Desktop/Pd-0.41.4-extended/packages/ >> darwin_app/build/Pd-extended.app/Contents/MacOS" >> install -m0755 -p \ >> """/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Resources/ >> Wish.app"/Contents"/MacOS/Wish" "/Users/lepole/Desktop/Pd-0.41.4- >> extended/packages/darwin_app/build/Pd-extended.app/Contents/MacOS" >> install -d "/Users/lepole/Desktop/Pd-0.41.4-extended/packages/ >> darwin_app/build/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources" >> install -m0644 -p \ >> """/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Resources/ >> Wish.app"/Contents"/Resources/Wish.rsrc" \ >> "/Users/lepole/Desktop/Pd-0.41.4-extended/packages/ >> darwin_app/build/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources" >> install: /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Resources/Wish.app/ >> Contents/Resources/Wish.rsrc: No such file or directory >> make: *** [darwin_app_wrapper] Error 71 >> new-host-4:darwin_app lepole$ >> >> Thanks for helping >> >> david >> -- >> TNTB >> t'es in t'es bat >> 7 place Favier >> 13210 St Remy de Provence >> T/: 04 90 26 95 09 >> P/: 06 86 86 12 19 >> ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| >> http://www.tntb.net >> LOVES >> LePôle travaille sur le fil des accidents, des fractures, des bugs >> informatiques, vidéos. >> -]>[-]<<[>+>+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>>> >> Lepôle cherche , il cause il triture les matières, les bits, les >> glitch, les formats. Il sort des cadres. >> [-]<<<+++++++++<[>>>+<<[>+>[-]<<-]>[<+>-]>[<<++++++++++>>>+< >> LePôle s'indiscipline dans de multiples tentatives fragile et >> poetiques. >> -]<<-<-]+++++++++>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< >> LePôle improvise avec ses valises pleine de machines improbables et >> généreuse en surprises visuelles... >> -]<<-<-]+++++++++>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< >> LePôle = numerikexperimentatatonnedebitengigaemotionel >> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >> 00000000000000 >> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ >> \\\\\\ >> LePôle works on the edge of faults, errors and informatic bugs and >> videos >> >+++++++++[<+++++++++++>-]<[>[ >> -]>[-]<<[>+>+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>>> >> LePôle looks for, causes, fiddles with bytes, glitches and formats. >> Something out of the ordinary. >> [-]<<<+++++++++<[>>>+<<[>+>[-]<<-]>[<+>-]>[<<++++++++++>>>+< >> LePôle is undisciplined in many endeavours fragile and poetic >> -]<<-<-]+++++++++>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< >> LePôle improvises with its suitcases full of unlikely machines and >> visual surprises... >> -]<<-<-]+++++++++>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< >> LePôle =digitalexperimentationofemotionalgigabytes >> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > All information should be free. - the hacker ethic > > > > > > > > -- > TNTB > t'es in t'es bat > 7 place Favier > 13210 St Remy de Provence > T/: 04 90 26 95 09 > P/: 06 86 86 12 19 > ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > http://www.tntb.net > LOVES > LePôle travaille sur le fil des accidents, des fractures, des bugs > informatiques, vidéos. > -]>[-]<<[>+>+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>>> > Lepôle cherche , il cause il triture les matières, les bits, les > glitch, les formats. Il sort des cadres. > [-]<<<+++++++++<[>>>+<<[>+>[-]<<-]>[<+>-]>[<<++++++++++>>>+< > LePôle s'indiscipline dans de multiples tentatives fragile et > poetiques. > -]<<-<-]+++++++++>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< > LePôle improvise avec ses valises pleine de machines improbables et > généreuse en surprises visuelles... > -]<<-<-]+++++++++>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< > LePôle = numerikexperimentatatonnedebitengigaemotionel > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > 00000000000000 > \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ > \\\\\ > LePôle works on the edge of faults, errors and informatic bugs and > videos > >+++++++++[<+++++++++++>-]<[>[ > -]>[-]<<[>+>+<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>>> > LePôle looks for, causes, fiddles with bytes, glitches and formats. > Something out of the ordinary. > [-]<<<+++++++++<[>>>+<<[>+>[-]<<-]>[<+>-]>[<<++++++++++>>>+< > LePôle is undisciplined in many endeavours fragile and poetic > -]<<-<-]+++++++++>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< > LePôle improvises with its suitcases full of unlikely machines and > visual surprises... > -]<<-<-]+++++++++>[<->-]>>+>[<[-]<<+>>>-]>[-]+<<[>+>-<<-]<<< > LePôle =digitalexperimentationofemotionalgigabytes > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom

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