Pd-list April 2010

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sourceforge access of the evil!
by IOhannes m zmölnig 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 in order to allow all our friends from so called "rogue states" to enjoy the full power and glory of Pd (-extended and so on), i have dropped the export restrictions automatically imposed by SourceForge. happy patching fgmasdr IOhannes PS: this restriction was introduced by SF just recently; since (afaik) Pd(X,...) doesn't use any technology that falls under rogue laws, there is no reason whatsoever to restrict -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkvRnrAACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS7NQCgyYKLg5AD+p8JqxpOhGE+diPU Qi0AnAyU1uvAZbmJqLPxzQO0UKlEKc/+ =m8r4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 61, Issue 125
by David 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

"Rouge" means red, doesn't it? He must have been referring to Cuba and North Korea ;-) On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:27 PM, <pd-list-request(a)iem.at> wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:44:57 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)artengine.ca> > Subject: Re: [PD] sourceforge access of the evil! > To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > Cc: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at>, IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1004231335090.19997(a)paik.artengine.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> As an American, I am required to fear what might happen if the rouge >> states got a hold of Pd. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouge_%28cosmetics%29 > > "rouge" is pronounced with a long "oo" and soft "g" > "rogue" is pronounced with a long "oh" and hard "g" > > (but in french the latter is more like : rug states) > > _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... > | Mathieu Bouchard, Montr?al, Qu?bec. t?l?phone: +1.514.383.3801 > > ------------------------------ >

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Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
by colet.patrice＠free.fr 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

hello Roman I've tried Mx everytime I used netpd, so could tell what doesn't meet my criteria... there are already plenty of stuff for fx, that's nice, I've even stolen some stuff inside, like the dynamic routing, some times ago. In fact it's a pain in the **s do a good job in such a mixer because of aesthetics, anecdotic criterium in this conversation. There is no vu-meter in tracks, so we don't know where the signals come from, neither at each level it comes. There is no peak value detection, we don't know what was the last highest peak value, to find out what sound would overhelm the mixing equilibrium. Using different colors for the different bus is a very good idea, and make gaining time for finding the good slider, but some colors gives Mx an ugly apparence that could be avoided with choosing harmonious tones, for example a yellow handle over a white background slider, is just a pain for the eyes. Also the green color is very agressive. Mixing sounds is a kind of computation where the engineer need know accurately which level he has to give to some tracks for getting a correct average power, for example if we add 3 Decibels we double power... The necessary stuff is just a number box that would tell how much Db is modulated over a slider. here is my favorite mixing tool: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/images/cubase5_l.jpg _ we can choose DAC~ input and output bus _ phase inversion _ Gain level _ Panning is over the number of output buses we choose _ A 'Listen' button has been added with 'Solo', but I didn't use it yet. _ we can record/play automation from the board. _ we can choose if the signal that goes to the bus is pre or post fader. _ same for vu-meter (all) _ we can record stuff passing through the mixer, if it's audio it records audio, if it's midi it records midi _ we can access directly to the instrument from the mixer track. _ there is an internal EQ, very usefull and very well implemented into to mixer track. _ we can group tracks into group tracks. _ we can save settings of each parts of the mixer. there are also all the settings that has effect on all the the tracks, like hiding all different parts of the tracks or setting peak detection time, copy-paste track params, an track edit window (so we can see all settings) ... For going further in the discussion, I'd need to try Mx EQ's and dynamic processing fx. This mixer is a cool project, and I'd love to use it in mine, but I'd need to make a stand alone patch. is there such one? ----- Mail Original ----- De: "Roman Haefeli" <reduzierer(a)yahoo.de> À: "colet patrice" <colet.patrice(a)free.fr> Cc: "João Pais" <jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com>, "pd-list" <pd-list(a)iem.at> Envoyé: Jeudi 22 Avril 2010 19h27:10 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd? Hi Patko On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 18:27 +0200, colet.patrice(a)free.fr wrote: > I just wanted to check if someone has invented this wheel in pd... > apparently not... <marketing lingo> Have you checked mx from netpd? http://www.netpd.org/Mx I am not sure, if it meets your criteria, but some of it features are: - slot for insert-fx per channel/master channel - unlimited number of slots for aux-fx - aux-fx can be chained - you can write your own fx By using some additional fx plugin suites, you can have: - meta-fx, that pack 3 slots into one (this way you can have as many inserts in a chain as you want) - dynamic processing fx - EQs - time-based fx, such chorus, flanger, phaser - some funky freaky stuff, such as spectral-delay, fft-based pitchshifter and more. </marketing lingo> Roman

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bug in maxlib/scale
by João Pais 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

Hi, I think I found a bug in maxlib/scale. Unless the order of the parameters is aligned - smaller value as smaller input/output and bigger value for input/output -, the external doesn't work properly. Is this normal or desired? I always thought that the parameter order would be interchangeable without problems. Here's a patch to illustrate it: JoÃ£o Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp

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[PD-announce] RjDj svn temporary downtime
by Frank Barknecht 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

Hi, the subversion repository of RjDj is undergoing a temporary downtime for technical reasons. It's not yet clear when it will be available again, but for those of you who want to use the rj library in the meantime, I've put the latest version here: http://osc.rjdj.me/~fbar/rj-100423.tgz This only includes the "rj" folder of abstractions. If you want more, a slightly outdated version of rj also is part of the RjDj Composer pack together with many other niceties: http://trac.rjdj.me/wiki/ComposersPack Sorry for any inconveiences. Ciao -- Frank _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] puredata_gui_design
by errordeveloper＠gmail.com 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 04:53:46PM +0200, Jordi Sala wrote: > All it's ok! > The problem with the .h file was that make creates a link to the > original .h file, but the path is absolute, so it targets to your home > in your computer. i knew this one :) bloody typical! > > Now I have installed some missed libraries in my qtcreator, and it > connects to the pd perfect. I'm going to do some test,... > that's excellent! :)) very happy to hear this :) you see the thing with qt is that it's extreamly portable! i bet we can run this on N900 and symbian nokias as well and any other os/arch where qt had been ported to! i still didn't figure qt-embedded ..then we can use DirectFB (i.e. fullscreen GUI without Xserver!! and with driver that uses the graphics adapter with some accelleration capabilities too) i got qt-embedded installed but still didn't manage to run the demo apps ;( also getting OpenGL widgets could be really nice .. because i found the QT sliders and all that stuff quite limiting in terms how BORING the GUI could look like if you have a whole lot of these things ..( and at some point it doesn't even fit on the screen 17" screen ..very sad :((( > > > On 23 April 2010 15:27, <errordeveloper(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 01:43:19PM +0200, Andre Osku Schmidt wrote: > >> On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 11:29 +0100, errordeveloper(a)gmail.com wrote: > >> > well ..SVG could be nice, but i haven't yet figure how to do it in QT in > >> > nice a streight forward way. > >> > but there some really nice svg widget example on the Nokia's website :) > >> > >> you mean these ? > >> http://qt.nokia.com/developer/embedded-widget-demos > >> > >> yes, that would be nice. but the last time i looked i couldn't figure > >> out neither how to do own svg widgets. but im no coder anyway ;) > >> > > yeah ..me neither ..i need to learn the qt svg stuff ..)) > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > -- > Jordi Sala > http://musa.poperbu.net

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several distributions populate array
by João Pais 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

Hi, before I start programming wanted to ask: does anyone knows / has made any patches to populate an array with values? something like "make 10 values between X and Y", being at a constant rate, or following an exponential curve, or with (more or less) random deviations, ... Thanks, JoÃ£o -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp

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Re: [PD] puredata_gui_design
by colet.patrice＠free.fr 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

segmented and curvy cords comes with another patching design, like in maxMSP where almost all the time the messages order doesn't have an importance. Also it's said by some users that max patches works better when everything is in the same subpatch, and that is not the case with pd. Many other has explained, certainly better than me, why not using those cords in list archive. Also, the project of designing other interfaces for pd is really seducting, and there is already some projects that allow the use of another GUI, like the J. Sarlo's Graphical Interface Editing Tool and Run-time Environment (cpu glouton) or T. Grill's python wrapper and tkinter. (require python knowledge) or HC's [sys_gui] (require tcl knowledge, and very slow response) or [mixed/toxy/tot] (unstable, require tcl knowledge) and xi widgets that require tcl/tk 8.5, a working [widget] external, and half a dozen of tk libs. There are also other projects using pd sources with another GUI design like desiredata ----- Mail Original ----- De: "Lorenzo" <lsutton(a)libero.it> À: pd-list(a)iem.at Envoyé: Vendredi 16 Avril 2010 12h07:08 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [PD] puredata_gui_design András Murányi wrote: One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets are provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such kind of skinning, afaik. There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit. Really? Which one? As a comment on the designs which graphically look very cool... this will probably be unpopular... but I *wouldn't* second segmented or curvy chords (like in some other popular dataflow programs) as I think they tend to make patches (and one's coding) less clear and in the end a bit "messy".. but it may be me, as I do tend to become messy and like something which constraints me not to :) Lorenzo _______________________________________________ Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Golden Shield Music
by Marco Donnarumma 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

Hi folks, (sorry for cross-posting) I'd like to share with you my latest (Pure Data-based) work. Golden Shield Music is a multi-channel generative sound installation for censored Internet Protocol (IP) addresses. Detailed informations (including an audio excerpt) can be viewed at http://marcodonnarumma.com/works/golden-shield-music/. Following a proposal by Greg J. Smith, chief editor at Vague Terrain, I wrote a project brief for the journal: http://vagueterrain.net/content/2010/04/golden-shield-music Would love to hear feedbacks from the community. I'll be at Pikslaverk in May to exhibit the piece and present a talk about the project. I know someone of the list will be there too, looking forward to meet you. M -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 61, Issue 116
by Marco Donnarumma 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

I had such a problem (ubuntu 9.04) the simplest solution in my case was to disable Pulseaudio and use ALSA only. With this tutorial is quite straight forward: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-be… > Dear list: hello to everybody....i have a problem, in the university i > request about a second partition with ubuntu 9.04 for working with pd, they > use a mac intel intel core 2 duo, desktop line, i installed pd and work, > but > the sound no...in all the system. > > Any idea or command in terminal? dependences? pulse audio???? > > Thanks a lot > > Jos? > > -- > http://www.chilemigra.cl > http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato >

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