Pd-list March 2010

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pd-ext and Ubuntu
by Jonathan Wilkes 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hello, I've got a box with gNewSense 2.3-deltah which I've read is based on Ubuntu Hardy. When I try to install the package from the download page, or install one of the nightly builds, I get an error about a missing dependency liblame0. I saw an "ugly hack" listed here: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/065299.html It works but the package is still listed as broken in Synaptic. Does this happen for other people on Hardy or am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Jonathan

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Fontsizes
by meino.cramer＠gmx.de 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hi, I am still unsure, whether I have installed puredata correctly... Being on Gentoo-Linux, which I periodically update, I use a so called overlay especially made for gentoo to install pd-extended. When I start pd, the initial dialog (that one with the console) came up with a microscopic font size. Loading any patch also results in dialog, which came up with that too small font. Now I am able to change it to a bigger size, which often mess up the laout of that patch. I tried to set the font size globally in ~/.pdsettings, which does not work, though pd repports in "startup flags" my setting. I also can set to that fontsize by hand. When starting pd from the command line it reports: Pd version 0.41-4extended compiled 14:14:02 Feb 21 2010 port 5401 TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tcl/library" TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd/tk/library" "/usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui" 5401 Waiting for connection request... ... connected Is there any way to increase the complete pd-display by a factor to make things readable? Any othe hint? Thank you very much in advance for any help! :) Have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.

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MusicumMachina
by JKP 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

An Machine Sound Generator for Pure Data Made with Pd version 0.41.4-extended --- DOWNLOAD --- The Patches http://jkp.antisocial.be/musique/JKP-MusicumMachina.zip The Sound ( 1.5 Go ) http://jkp.antisocial.be/musique/JKP-audio.zip --- INSTALL --- Unpack the zip file called JKP-musicummachina.zip into your pure data directory ./puredata/ ( patch files ) Unpack the zip file JKP-audio.zip into your previously selected directory ./puredata/JKP-MusicumMachina/ ( sound files ) --- PLAY --- In order to listen the MusicumMachina project, open: musicum-machina.pd In order to play with the MusicumMachina project, open: musicum-machina-live.pd --- EXAMPLE --- http://jkp.antisocial.be/musique/exemple.mp3 -- SCREENSHOT --- http://jkp.antisocial.be/musicummachina.html --- THANKS --- to Miller Puckett to Thomas Thierry to Hardoff

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Any experience with analog gamepad and [hid]?
by Pierre Massat 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hi all! I was wondering if anybody could provide me with some feedback about any experience with a gamepad and [hid]. I use a DIY stompbox i made from a (very) cheap analog gamepad, and i am experiencing some trouble with the data i get from the analog potentiometers (i put one of them in an expression pedal). Basically, 3 pots out of 4 don't cover the entire theoretical range (0 to 256) and can only provide an input up to about 150. The last pot does cover the whole range, but in a non-linear fashion. So i was thinking of making another stompbox with a better quality gamepad, but i want to make sure the problem comes from the cheap gamepad i used and not from [hid] itself. By the way i use Pd-extended on Fedora 12 with the Planet CCRMA rt-kernel. Best, Pierre PS : it goes without saying that i did check the value of the pots in the gamepad before replacing them.

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Extended can't load any library except Gem on Windows Vista
by Matteo Sisti Sette 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hi, The short version: I fresh-installed Pd Extended into the default location (C:\Program Files\pd) and I get: cyclone: can't load library zexy: can't load library creb: can't load library .... and so on for EVERY library except Gem. The strange thing is that Gem does load, and it is located in pd/extra just like all other libraries. This is really crazy isn't it? What can be wrong? The long version: I had already installed Pd Extended and it used to work fine. It was installed in an "unusual" location: "D:/programmi/pd_extended", where "programmi" is the italian word for "programs" but it is _not_ the default directory for programs in my computer (who speaks spanish, not italian). When I installed it, I had to manually modify the "pd-settings.reg" file that adds the libraries to startup, because it uses the wrong location for the registry keys (this has nothing to do with the path where Pd is installed). After that, I had Pd Extended working fine and loading all libraries. Also, I have Pd Vanilla installed in another directory, "D:\programmi\pd". I run it using the "-noprefs" option, because otherwise, it would (try to) load the libraries from pd Extended. Today, misteriously and without (apparently) touching anything, Pd Extended stopped working, that is it started giving me "cannot load library" messages. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling it to the same directory with no luck. So I uninstalled and reinstalled again, this time to the default location C:\Program Files\pd (note disk C which is where the OS is installed, and "Program Files" is the actual system Program Files directory, which is displayed as "Archivos de Programa"). However the result is the same: "cannot load library" for all libraries except Gem. The Gem it is loading is actually the one installed inside the C:\Program Files\pd\extra\Gem directory, which is the same path where all other libraries are located too. I know it because if I rename that gem.dll file, it won't load. Please help! thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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[PD-announce] Good Morning Puredata
by brankojr 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

Hi all! I'm brankolo from Turin in Italy. I'm using Pure Data from two years ago, i'm not so expert but i LOVE it. I also working on ITALY Community of Pure Data to expand the use of this software, and to find solution together. I practice expecially in ArtWork-Apps connected to Arduino for sensors and motors. So, i hope to spend good time in this mailinglist, and I wish you have fun. Bye, see you soon. :) _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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reson~ from max in pd
by Björn Lindig 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Hi, a friend asked me, wether there is a object similar to the [fffb~] in max/msp (a "fast fixed filter bank") in pd. I did not find it instantly so I started to build one after the formula posted in [reson~]s help in max: y[n] = gain * (x[n] - r * x[n-2]) + c1 * y[n-1] + c2 * y[n-2] I appended a patch, that I created after this formula. The Problem is, that I would love to klone the max-object, but at the moment I have only inlets for r, c1, c2 and gain. What I need is the math to calculate the values for r, c1, c2 and gain for given center frequency, Q/Bandwith, and gain. I started reading the chapters on time shifts and delays and filters in miller-puckettes book and the book of J. O. Smith. But to be honest, I did not yet understand much of what is writen there. So I thought, there might be someone arround here, who can give me a fast answer, or who can point me into the right direction. If it is the best to try resonz and resonr (I'm on train building pd-extended, used vanilla before), I'll accept that. On the other hand, I would be realy curious about the math that is used to solve this problem. Thank you very much! Bjoern #N canvas 611 38 615 510 10; #X obj 105 -13 inlet~; #X obj 105 394 outlet~; #X obj 153 218 delwrite~ del3; #X obj 125 348 delwrite~ del2; #X obj 105 121 +~; #X obj 104 239 +~; #X obj 104 320 +~; #X obj 125 99 *~; #X obj 122 218 *~; #X obj 138 299 *~; #X obj 239 -10 inlet~; #X text 239 -27 r; #X obj 307 -10 inlet~; #X obj 383 -7 inlet~; #X text 303 -33 c1; #X text 389 -26 c2; #X obj 124 14 delwrite~ del1 1; #X obj 125 78 delread~ del1; #X obj 123 198 delread~ del2 1; #X obj 138 278 delread~ del3 1; #X obj 427 134 samplerate~; #X msg 387 134 1; #X obj 387 155 /; #X obj 387 91 loadbang; #X floatatom 387 198 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 387 112 t b b; #X obj 387 176 * 1000; #X obj 387 221 s one_sample; #X obj 125 34 r one_sample; #X obj 125 55 * 2; #X obj 131 177 r one_sample; #X obj 147 254 r one_sample; #X obj 105 150 *~; #X obj 455 -4 inlet~; #X text 456 -22 gain; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 0 0 16 0; #X connect 4 0 32 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 3 0; #X connect 7 0 4 1; #X connect 8 0 5 1; #X connect 9 0 6 1; #X connect 10 0 7 1; #X connect 12 0 8 1; #X connect 13 0 9 1; #X connect 17 0 7 0; #X connect 18 0 8 0; #X connect 18 0 2 0; #X connect 19 0 9 0; #X connect 20 0 22 1; #X connect 21 0 22 0; #X connect 22 0 26 0; #X connect 23 0 25 0; #X connect 24 0 27 0; #X connect 25 0 21 0; #X connect 25 1 20 0; #X connect 26 0 24 0; #X connect 28 0 29 0; #X connect 29 0 17 0; #X connect 30 0 18 0; #X connect 31 0 19 0; #X connect 32 0 5 0; #X connect 33 0 32 1;

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Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
by Koray Tahiroglu 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Hi Derek, As you said institutions have their own way of operating when it comes to upgrading their existing devices, which might even take ages for a single chip changes, I always find it handy to ask the available equipments list beforehand for the workshop. I have been using those Arduino boards since 2006 here in my workshops and courses, and each time we made them work fine based on the student project needs. Last time it was October 2009, without spending more than 15min :), they functioned well with Firmata-2.1beta5, not with StandardFirmata, but the other analog, servo, and simpledigital, and we had three student projects done with sensors+arduino+pduino at the end of the workshop. and yes, we should mention that ATMEGA8 is not good with StandardFirmata, see you tomorrow ;) Koray. On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:57 PM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:48:12 +0100 > From: Derek Holzer <derek(a)umatic.nl> > Subject: Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works > To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > Cc: pd-list <PD-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: <20100310174812.57clvr0ln488088k(a)webmail.ideeel.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; > format="flowed" > > Hi HC, > > thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it in > the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s > running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the ATMEG328 > but I will deal with that tomorrow. > > I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but > you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute > installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about > motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of > debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a glitch... > maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on, computers > are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss! > > I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I > had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them > they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that > takes at any kind of institution ;-) > > Best from Helsinki! > D. ------------------------------------- M.Koray Tahiroğlu Media Lab, Aalto University, School of Art and Design http://mlab.taik.fi/~korayt tel: +358 45 233 6272

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Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
by Derek Holzer 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Yes proper FTDI drivers installed. The Analog Firmata works, however the Standard Firmata is totally broken. D. On 3/9/10 4:27 PM, Greg Pond wrote: > do you have the proper ftdi drivers installed? > http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm > > good luck. > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Derek Holzer <derek(a)umatic.nl > <mailto:derek@umatic.nl>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm in the middle of a workshop right now, and nothing I planned > works. All the users on OSX cannot use the Pduino objects. They all > have latest Pd-Extended 0.41.4 and latest Pduino-0.5beta6. They have > all successfully loaded the Standard-FirmataV2 (the Standard-Firmata > is too big for the Atmega8) to an Arduino NG w/ Atmega8. > > Then they open arduino-help.pd, use "devices" to determine the > proper port and set the port. > > Then I have them test with "pinMode 13 1" followed by "digital 13 > 1". I see the RX LEDS flash, but the pin 13 LED does nothing. Then I > open [pd DIGITAL-OUTPUT] and use that patch to flash all the digital > outputs, after setting them to output mode in the main patch. Again, > RX lights blink but nothing else. > > After that I get long strings of the following: > > UNKNOWN INPUT COMMAND: 8 32120 > [arduino] warning currently unsupported 160 > [arduino] warning currently unsupported 176 > > This is consistent across every installation, whether PPC or Intel. > We can't really go further with Arduino without fixing this, so I > hope someone can help. > > In contrast, I am using Pduino04.beta2 with Pd-extended-0.39 on my > machine and everything works fine. I have also been unble to run any > Pduino with Pd-extended-0.41.4. Installing Pduino04.beta2 with > Pd-extended-0.39 on a couple of machines of the students hasn't been > an effectivbe workaroundm however ([arduino-help.pd] crashes Pd in > this case). > > Any suggestions welcome. Is there something I totally missed here???? > > D. > > -- > ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: > ---Oblique Strategy # 48: > "Discover your formulas and abandon them" > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 158: "Think of the radio"

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Re: [PD] Good Morning Puredata
by Marco Donnarumma 10 Mar '10

10 Mar '10

Hey Brankolo, welcome! good to see you here.. cheers p.s. pay attention not to post to Pd-announce, unless you have news about events and similar. ;) -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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