Pd-list October 2010

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fedora 13 vs pd
by david medine 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

Dear all, I switched operating systems to Fedora 13 yesterday and it is great, except that I cannot get Pd to address ALSA. The build goes well, no errors, and Pd is there and it looks fine, except when I go to 'Audio settings' the boxes next to input and output are empty. There are no options to select. I have installed every ALSA package that I can find, and still no joy. Any ideas? This is a sample what the console reports during configuration: checking tcl.h usability... yes checking tcl.h presence... yes checking for tcl.h... yes checking for main in -ltcl85... no checking for main in -ltcl8.5... yes checking for main in -ltk85... no checking for main in -ltk8.5... yes .................... alsa= yes I find the '....................' before alsa to be troubling. Anyone know how to fix this? Best, David Medine

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Clearing and Copying an array
by Raffael Seyfried 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

Hi, I have some problems with a live looper patch I am building for my band. My question is: Is it possible to copy the content of an array into another array (or reset all entries to zero) directly by using messages? If so what messages? Raffael

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by Daniel Roviriego via LinkedIn 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

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dub chords in Pd
by Marco Donnarumma 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

Thanks Andy, the delay is quite clear now, and what about the source? Do you think phasors chords could do the job? I reckon I should work out a proper envelope to synthesise a similar attack (like a rapidly bowed guitar chord). thanks M Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:43:28 +0100 > From: Andy Farnell <padawan12(a)obiwannabe.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <20101025204328.39a3f601.padawan12(a)obiwannabe.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > > The lossy part needs to go into the feedback loop > of the delay. Each time around the loop the distortion > function shifts some of the energy away from it's > original position, some up and out band > and some into the capture of the bandpass. > As it goes round and round (recurses) it gets > focussed more and more into one or two places. > Good dub delays are always pretty close to > exploding in certain frequencies close to the > 1-2kHz mid. That's the trick. You need to > experiment with dangerously unstable > settings to get it to sing. Distortion > followed by bandbass. Any kind of tape and > amp simulation in the loop usually works quite well. > Some of the best old dub delay IMHO > is from a "bucket brigade delay" circa > '76/77 that used leaky capacitors to simulate > a tape, a kind of analogue data buffer. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYepvarTsVM > @3.44 > > can get a subtle, spooky, slow timbral shift > if you catch it and ride it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgAfsUdQc_A > > @2.40 + > > > -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] How to: different channels with noteout & ctlout (pd > ableton)
by patko 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

Hello, unfortunately it's not possible to select MIDI port from [noteout] or [ctlout], it's possible to do it with [midiout] but I'm not sure it would work on other OS than linux. Anyway, what about just using different MIDI channels? It works very well. ----- "Jeffrey Concepcion" <jeffreyconcepcion(a)gmail.com> a écrit : > I think that's correct. > > To jm jones, > what OS are you on? > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:13 PM, tim vets < timvets(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > 2010/10/26 jm jones < juanmjv(a)gmail.com > > > > > Im creating a patch to control midi instruments and control > parameters. For now I can send midi data to only one channel (via midi > yoke), if I want to send data to another channel I write noteout 2 and > select midi yoke 2 in ableton Live, but that doesn't work. > > > the '2' in noteout 2 is the midi channel, it is sent to the same > virtual midi device midiyoke 1 > I think if you want to send to yoke 2 as well, you should enable > multiple midi out devices in pd's media > MIDI settings > gr, > Tim > > > > -- > > JM Jones > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > -- > www.epicjefferson.com > www.avmachinists.org Puerto Rico based Art Collective/ Non-Profit Org > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrice Colet

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Re: [PD] OSC messages without / (fwd)
by Roman Haefeli 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

Hi Leandro Sorry for not having responded quickly. I know that OSC supports so-called bundled messages. However, I haven't yet investigated how they actually work. It seems like your Max patch is sending bundled OSC messages. It seems like those are tagged with a '#bundle' and obviously the '/' is prepended to #bundle tag instead of the OSC address. I don't have a solution at hand for this, since it makes OSC message parsing in the byte realm even more complex. Probably there are some other ways to 'de-bundle' those messages first before prepending them a '/'? (Question to the commmunity) Roman P.S.: I think this discussion is still interesting for the list, so I cc'ed to the list. On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 09:41 +0200, Leandro da Mota Damasceno wrote: > Hi Roman. My print message is returning something like: > > > mensagem: /#bundle likeliest 1 > > > it was supposed to be /likeliest 1 > > > > > Best, > > > Leandro > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Roman Haefeli <reduzent(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > Sorry, I definitely missed your reply then. Can you post the > error > message again? > > Roman > > > On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 02:46 +0200, Leandro da Mota Damasceno > wrote: > > It partially worked. It seems to be something ALMOST there, > but I got > > an error message. I posted a few days ago. But it's > definitely the > > best solution right now > > > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Roman Haefeli > <reduzent(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 09:40 +0200, Leandro da Mota > Damasceno > > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > I would like to apologize for the private emails. > it's that > > when I > > > reply to the messages they go to the author, not > the list. > > Weird. > > > that's not what happens in other mailing lists... > > > > > > > > > So, I have tried to fix the standalone as jasch > suggested, > > but i got > > > all sorts of error messages. I would have to work > almost > > from scratch > > > and if my knowledge on PD is still in beginner > level, my > > knowledge of > > > max/MSP is almost null. Unfortunately, I'm on a > deadline to > > have this > > > thing working, so I need a workaround by next > week. > > > > > > > > > So right now, I'd rather not mess with the > standalone and > > working on a > > > new version by myself in a few weeks from now. > Martin, I can > > send you > > > the patch, but I'm afraid it won't be any helpful > for this > > case, since > > > it depends on dating coming from the standalone. I > can give > > it to you, > > > of course, if you want. But I think it's pretty > much what > > has been > > > described here. The best solution for now I think > would be > > to have a > > > way to get ordinary messages through udp. No OSC > standards. > > > > > > > > > Sorry in case I missed it, but did the abstraction I > sent you > > recently > > not work? I don't think, that it should be too > difficult to > > find a way > > to deal with the faulty OSC messages in Pd (so that > you don't > > have to > > touch the standalone max/msp patch). > > > > Roman > > > > > > > > > > >

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process id again for building a watchdog
by brandt＠subnet.at 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

hi all does anybody know how i can get the process id in win7 of every instance of three pd´s to use them for a watchdog, which is checking, if the instances are still alive and if not kill the one not responding and open it again. i would like to check for an "ever" running installation, which is done in pd, if all of the instances are working and not to restart the computer every 24 hour, which i feel, is not very elegant. so, my idea is to have an objekt which is checking at the startup of the instance its PID, storing it and sends it back to the watchdog on demand, via netsend. the watchdog itself should, as i feel been written in c or anything else but not pd. i would like to code the watchdog, but my knowledge in coding is as low as low..... :-) since i´m "just" a patcher. even the process of compiling in windose is something like a country of questions and miracles, but anyhow, i´ve once was trained in programming c.... but pd was far too cool to practice that. i´ve made all my dreams come true within pure data.....thank you by the way. maybe the snippet below is a start... ________________________________________________________________________________ Program to print its Process ID, Parent Process ID and Group ID #include <stdio.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <sys/types.h> int main() { pid_t pid, ppid; gid_t gid; /* get the process id */ if ((pid = getpid()) < 0) { perror(" unable to get pid"); } else { printf(" The process id is %d", pid); } /* get the parent process id */ if ((ppid = getppid()) < 0) { perror(" unable to get the ppid"); } else { printf(" The parent process id is %d", ppid); } /* get the group process id */ if ((gid = getgid()) < 0) { perror(" unable to get the group id "); } else { printf(" The group id is %d ", gid); } return(0); } ______________________________________________________________________________ any help preciated sorry for my english der.brandt thank you

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How to: different channels with noteout & ctlout (pd > ableton)
by jm jones 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

Im creating a patch to control midi instruments and control parameters. For now I can send midi data to only one channel (via midi yoke), if I want to send data to another channel I write noteout 2 and select midi yoke 2 in ableton Live, but that doesn't work. -- JM Jones

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read Puredata array/table data from another app?
by padovani 26 Oct '10

26 Oct '10

Hello, is there a way to access a PD array from another app? I'm trying to do some visualizations from arrays in Processing and in openFrameworks and have managed to send 256 floats tables (with [switch~]) per DSP block through OSC: anyway, OSC is not build to manage streams, but to send control messages... What are the other options to do this? (OBS: I would like to receive the data with no compression) thanks for any idea/help, josÃ© -- http://zepadovani.info

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[PD-announce] z→z²+c released on GOSUB10 netlabel
by Claude Heiland-Allen 26 Oct '10

26 Oct '10

Hi everyone, My latest work made with Pure-data is available, including the source code so you can make your own generative fractal music: http://gosub10.org/GOSUB10-003.html The Mandelbrot set is possibly the world’s most famous fractal. z→z²+c is a series of sonifications, focussing on the periodic attractors found almost everywhere within the Mandelbrot set. Given just two real numbers (forming one point in the complex plane), dynamic patterns can emerge as the one simple equation governing the system is repeated over and over: z→z²+c The source code for this release (implemented in Pure-data using GridFlow and zexy) is free software distributable under the terms of the GNU General Public License (version 3 or greater). Copyleft: This is a free work, you can copy, distribute, and modify it under the terms of the Free Art License. Released on 17th October 2010. Track listing: 1. ClaudiusMaximus – The Military-Industrial Complex 2. ClaudiusMaximus – After The Despoilment 3. ClaudiusMaximus – Race Against Time 4. ClaudiusMaximus – Before Civilisation Dedicated to innovative music and audio/visuals, the GOSUB10 label will feature an eclectic group of musicians drawn together by their shared use of Free/Libre/Open Source Software (FLOSS). Freely distributed by stream, download and special DVD releases, and made available through an open license, GOSUB10 is run by the GOTO10 collective – an international group of artists, musicians and programmers, dedicated to FLOSS and digital arts. Brought to life in a intensive four day work sprint but years in the making, the GOSUB10 netlabel is a natural extension of GOTO10’s activities supporting and promoting digital art alongside FLOSS tools through workshops, festivals, exhibitions, writing, and more. http://gosub10.org Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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