Pd-list July 2009

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key and keyup question
by Lorenzo 13 Jul '09

13 Jul '09

Hi all, I'm a little confused by the behaviour of the [key] and [keyup] objects. What I'd expect is that they 'bang' and output the number only and only when a key is pressed (key) or depressed (keyup), while it looks like while a key is kept pressed they go on banging. Also a [keyup] seems to bang even when a key is 'down'. This also poses somewhat a problem with keyboard 'poliphony' say I keep a key pressed while also pressing other[s]. Is my expectation simply wrong? I noticed that the behaviour is different when pressing keys like SHIFT, CTRL etc. Also I see from the help this is system dependent, I see this on Linux (ubuntu 9,04 - Pd 0.41.4-extended-rc1) Thanks, Lorenzo

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[PD-announce] PdCon09 - Convenção Internacional de Puredata em São Paulo - Novidades: Participantes e Workshops
by Alexandre Porres 13 Jul '09

13 Jul '09

PdCon09 - Música, audiovisual, Instalações, Artigos, Cursos, Hackmeetings... Puredata! Uma mostra de arte digital/interativa e simpósio de tecnologia e arte, o PdCon09 é a 3ª Convenção Internacional de Puredata, de 19 a 26 de julho em São Paulo, com realização do MIS-Museu a Imagem e do Som, SESC SP e PUC SP. Como coordenador do evento, tenho prazer em informar que estamos com a programação completa e todas as informações dos participantes no ar. Foram também abertas oficialmente as inscrições em workshops. De 60 participantes, exporemos o trabalho de em torno de 50 participantes internacionais, é a maior Convenção de Puredata até agora, e a primeira na América Latina. Trata-se do primeiro evento de arte e tecnologia focado em ferramentas livres no Brasil! Informações gerais em http://pdcon. org <http://pdcon.org/> Confira os Paticipantes e seus trabalhos em: http://blog. pdcon.org/ ?page_id= 139 <http://blog.pdcon.org/?page_id=139> Os workshops em: http://blog. pdcon.org/ ?page_id= 24<http://blog.pdcon.org/?page_id=24> Contato, dúvidas, críticas, sugestões: pdcon09@gmail. com Alexandre Porres (11)8179-6226 _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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fluid~.pd_darwin / 10.4 / 10.5
by Koray Tahiroglu 12 Jul '09

12 Jul '09

Hello everybody, I just compiled fluid~ for OS X (10.5.7) and here it is the link where you can find fluid~.pd_darwin for 10.5 and 10.4. http://puredata.info/Members/korayt/pdfiles 10.5 version is tested with Pd 0.41.4-extended and Pd-0.42-5, remember that you will need to install FluidSynth library to make [fluid~] work with Pd. Koray ------------------------------------- M.Koray Tahiroglu Acoustics Lab / TKK http://mlab.taik.fi/~korayt/ http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~ktahirog/ tel: +358 45 233 6272

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pd convention 09 - external involvement?
by dmotd 12 Jul '09

12 Jul '09

hi folks, the pd convention is just over a month away and as someone who logistically just can't make it over to brazil, i am wondering how the organizers are planning to integrate content for external involvement? are there plans to stream forums, presentations and/or workshops? is there a wiki or some such thing for colating content generated or discussed at the conference? i'd certainly like the opportunity to participate in the festivities in some format - if these are channels available for such things, otherwise i hope that the papers generated from this conference can be colated in a similar manner to the 'bang' book from the 1st pdcon, which still continues to be a great point of reference and inspiration. cheers, dmotd

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Two-dimensional gesture mapping for interactive real-time electronic music instruments
by Thomas Grill 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

Hey all, in case someone is interested here's my recently finished master thesis: http://grrrr.org/pub/grill-2008-master-2d_gesture_mapping.pdf or in very compact form, as a presentation poster: http://grrrr.org/pub/grill-2008-master-poster.pdf This thesis describes a novel, fairly general and (for the player) non-technical interface concept for software-based music instruments. The actual proof-of-concept instrument has been realized using pd and gem (with a number of optimized flext-based external objects to make it all possible on current hardware). gr~~~

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Pd Tutorial redesigned
by Johannes Kreidler 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

Hi all, now my big pd tutorial on http://www.pd-tutorial.com has a nice-looking design. Cheers Johannes -- www.kreidler-net.de

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Re: [PD] Pd Tutorial redesigned
by Jonathan Wilkes 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

> b/ i think tutorials are basically producing people > making the same kind of music and/or visuals, > every library has its own help, > why would you need to be guided from A to Z? > result would be just another clone, > like people learning to play guitar > playing beatle's songs... > not what i'm interested in,,, What produces people making the same kind of music and/or visuals happens long before someone starts reading a tutorial on pd. Speaking of clones- the idea that one could reject "learning to play guitar playing beatles songs" as a general, undesirable act of conformity is nonsense. Learning music has a variety of meanings and functions depending on the culture, or even circumstances, like someone retraining their motor and memory skills after an accident. The question is how have you, like so many, overlooked the entire field of ethnomusicology and made a statement that apparently reduces music to a simplistic division between the mindless and the profound? Maybe you read a high modernist tutorial somewhere? -Jonathan

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Re: [PD] Pd Tutorial redesigned
by Marco Donnarumma 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

Hey Sevy, i agree with you about the address 'pd-tutorial.com' issue. It would have been much nicer if the author wouldn't have choose a quite totalitarian web address, but... i cannot agree at all about your second statements. How one can start to create different processes and technique without knowing which is the standard? How can you hate an/or despise the Holy Bible without ever read it? If a standard wouldn't exists than something "different" wouldn't exists as well. We want to make the people as free as possible to create different strategies, but then we don't trust them enough to believe that learning from a tutorial they could do something original? -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Multimedia Artist, Live Performer - Roma, IT LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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pd.tk hacking at Pdcon hackmeeting (was: curly braces { } in pd ?)
by glerm soares 10 Jul '09

10 Jul '09

2009/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > > This should be possible to fix, and its one of the goals with the pd-devel > effort. Now that the GUI side is pure Tcl, that should make the quoting > issue easier to address. > > .hc What do you think about some pd.tk explainings and hacksessions at Pdcon hackmeeting? glerm PS: Hackmeeting wiki is down, sorry, we are trying to fix the problem. I will put the comments of this message there ASAP.

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by None 10 Jul '09

10 Jul '09

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Pd-list July 2009