Pd-list May 2009

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Re: [PD] Good sequencer patches for learning?
by Ed Kelly 08 May '09

08 May '09

Hi all, The next release of Metastudio will have a bunch of sequencers. 32 step slider sequencer with variable duration steps 56 step trigger sequencer with 5 trigger rows and typeable input 40 step multi sequencer with 2 numbers, 2 triggers, 13-limit radio button and step entry from a MIDI keyboard or a qwerty keyboard. there's also a bunch of sequence modifiers - polyrhythmic variation per-step, and subdivision re-triggers of a step. Patterns are copyable to new patterns, and sets of patterns can be saved and loaded. I'm presenting this at the PD convention so the final release will be before that - probably early June. You can check out the 0.2 version with 32-step sequencers here: http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata/ ...but the 0.3 release will have help files and way more functionality! more soon, Ed --- On Wed, 6/5/09, Solen Music <solenpuredata(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > From: Solen Music <solenpuredata(a)googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] Good sequencer patches for learning? > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Date: Wednesday, 6 May, 2009, 10:42 AM > Hi, apologies for being so vague. > > I did mean step sequencer. I'm in the process of designing > a 32 step > sequencer that runs off a tappable groove metro (to give > the option of > everything from rigid straight to super loose hand tapped > swing). > > I'm mostly building it around lanes of 32 v-sliders of > values 0-127, > so that apart from standard note/velocity pairings, I may > use the > lanes for controller data, cutoff envelopes etc. > > I'm basically looking to look through a good few patches to > see what > plan of action would be best to take. > > Frank I've looked at your pattseq and have garnered a good > few very > useful ideas from it. But unfortunately it's a little above > me in > terms of my Pd ability! > > So if there are any others too? > > > Cheers again, > > John. > > 2009/5/5 Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org>: > > Hallo, > > Solen Music hat gesagt: // Solen Music wrote: > > > >> Can anybody point me in the direction of good > sequencer patches for > >> learning? preferably vanilla or as close to as > possible! > > > > Maybe 5.reference/qlist-help.pd ? :) > > > > Now, seriously: The answer pretty much depends on what > "sequencer" means to > > you. > > > > Ciao > > -- > > Frank > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at > mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > -- > John > > http://www.myspace.com/solenband > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at > mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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CV from soundcard
by Derek Holzer 08 May '09

08 May '09

I got a bit interested by the (so far vapor-ware) MOTU Volta, and its promise of synth CV control from a DC coupled soundcard. I've got a Hammerfall DSP Multiface with DC-coupled inputs/oututs myself, and figure it couldn't be too difficult to whip up a Pure Data patch to interface with my Dopefer + homebrew modules. Is it done via PWM? Has anyone successfully gotten this to work? What about recording CV? best! D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 149: "Take a break"

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Re: [PD] no netpd objects
by Roman Haefeli 07 May '09

07 May '09

yo, i think, it is useful to keep that on the list. On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 20:48 +0200, Christian Fischer wrote: > yo super! > ich habe schon mit einem einfachen patch und numberboxes > experimentiert. das mit den levels ist auch klar. > ich habe zwei macs mit einem lan kabel verbunden. ohne > internetzugang. ging auch super! aber wie??? netpd clients are not connected directly to each other, but to a so called netpd-server. yet the server is simply another pd patch running on a machine visible from the world wide web. the server acts as a relay and forwards messages from client to client. if you don't have an internet connection, you can still run a netpd-session, but then you need to run your own local server. and of course, you need to tell the clients the ip address or the hostname of your server. you can set that in the preferences in _chat.pd. the default is 'netpd.org'. > was mich außerdem interessiert ist, wie sich wer dort wo einklinken > kann. to the server on netpd.org, everyone with internet access can connect. to your locally running server, only clients from within the same local network are able to connect (unless you teach your router some funky portforwarding stuff). > damit man die preferences ändert kann, muss ich das textfile ändern, > wenn ich es richtig verstehe?! in order to change the preferences, you hit the 'pref' button in _chat.pd. everything you change there, will be written to the ./netpd-settings.txt. of course, you can alternatively tweak that file manually with your favorite texteditor. roman > > > Am 07.05.2009 um 19:17 schrieb Enrique Erne: > > > hallo Christian > > > > ja super dann sprechen wir doch deutsch... > > > > wenn du mit netpd.org verbunden bist kannst du patches raufladen. > > schau die am besten andere patches an wie die gebaut sind. es gibt > > einige punkte auf die man achten kann. z.b. kann man eine liste mit > > abstractions definieren die dann auch zwischen den clients > > synchronisiert werden... > > > > am besten wir machen mal ne session. > > > > liebe gruess eni > > > > ps: ich nehm roman mit auf cc > > > > > > Christian M. Fischer wrote: > >> hey, > >> thanks for the information. it works now. > >> just to be clear. > >> when i connect, i connect to netpd.org so everybody on this > >> planet, that is connected too can chat/play with me? > >> how can i setup a closed network? or how can i be sure that noone > >> disturbes my session? > >> best! > >> cmf > >> btw. yes german ;-) > >> Enrique Erne schrieb: > >>> Hallo Christian > >>> > >>> If your online we could have a little intro session... > >>> > >>> or these days.. > >>> > >>> we hang around the IRC channels #netpd and #dataflow if you want > >>> to ping us. > >>> > >>> i'm eerne and roman is rdz. > >>> > >>> do you speak german btw? > >>> > >>> cheers eni > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Christian Fischer wrote: > >>>> hi everybody, > >>>> > >>>> i am quite new to this list and pd. > >>>> so there is a problem with the netpd objects. > >>>> > >>>> i have an mac os10.4.11 and pd 0.40.3 extended. > >>>> > >>>> unfortunately pd cannot create any pdnet-object. but the chat > >>>> and the creator seem to work properly. > >>>> > >>>> is there someting missing? i thought everything is included in > >>>> pd extended for netpd to work... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> i really appreciate any help! thx! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> best! > >>>> cmf > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > >>>> listinfo/pd-list > >>>> > >>> > >>> > > > ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de

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no netpd objects
by Christian Fischer 07 May '09

07 May '09

hi everybody, i am quite new to this list and pd. so there is a problem with the netpd objects. i have an mac os10.4.11 and pd 0.40.3 extended. unfortunately pd cannot create any pdnet-object. but the chat and the creator seem to work properly. is there someting missing? i thought everything is included in pd extended for netpd to work... i really appreciate any help! thx! best! cmf

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Live Recording Pd+Bass improvisation
by Marco Donnarumma 07 May '09

07 May '09

Hi all, just to share this work just released on Format Noise (Raumklang Music Sublabel). Audio Live recordings of the AV Performance 'I C::ntr::l Nature' at Ausklang Festival, Hoerbar, Hamburg. Augmented Electric bass guitar+Pd real-time processing. free download here: http://www.format-noise.com/releases.php?viewRelease=32 hope you'll enjoy.. cheers -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Multimedia Artist, Live Performer Roma, IT LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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using namespace prefixes in a vanilla setup
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 06 May '09

06 May '09

So after a little chatting with Cyrille, and looking thru lots of various issues in deploying projects, I came up with something that I think is a solution for including libs like list-abs, mapping, etc. as a folder then using namespace prefixes (something that has been supported for a very long time in all versions of Pd). Basically, one reason to include a library of abstractions with a project is to make sure that the project will continue to work on new versions of Pd and in many people's different installs. One key thing is getting the right code when you load an object with a name. For example, when you type [scale], and you get the one you want. One key problem here is that binaries will always override abstractions. So if you make an abstraction called threshold.pd in your project, and someone's install or some version of Pd includes a 'threshold' binary, you will not be able to load your threshold.pd in anyway on that setup. So if you use a namespace prefix, then the binary would have to be in a folder of the same name and have the same name in order to prevent the abstraction from loading. So the question I wanted to answer was an easy way to support using folders for namespaces while including the library with the project. So here's the solution i came up with, you make a 'lib' folder in your project, stick the libraries as folders in 'lib', then use [declare -path lib]. Here's an example: http://puredata.info/Members/hans/vanilla_libdir.tar.bz2 .hc

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no lighting for gemhead -1
by Sebastian Saa 06 May '09

06 May '09

Hi, im using a quad with a texture as my background in Gem. im using gemhead -1 because i need it to be rendered in the same place. I also need to have lighting on, my question is : Is there any a way to make that the lighting doesnt affect a specific gemchain? i would like that my gemhead -1 would not be affected by ligthing, how can i do this? thanks Seb.

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Pd Workshop at LPM 2009, Rome
by Marco Donnarumma 06 May '09

06 May '09

Might interest someone in the area. We are organizing the seventh edition of Live Performers Meeting: International encounter of *live video performers*, *visual artists *and *vj meeting*, dedicated to* **live audiovideo performances*. From *28th to 31st of May 2009*, at Brancaleone in Rome (subscriptions still open until 10th May). The first day is dedicated to Digital Freedoms and among the other workshops and presentations (i will make a brief presentation of C::NTR::L) we have a Pd workshop hold by Husk - member of Estereotips ( http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/2009/en/artists/dett_5580.htm). ------------------------------------------------------------- PureData for beginners (fee 40 euro - 3 hours a day / 4 days) Workshop's aim is to give the basic knowledge about this powerful tool for interactive audio/video creation. This time we will work on video size, learning GEM library and his connection with external devices. We will work on practice examples and at the end every participants will made her/his video tool. Workshop will be a tree hours for day meeting, during LPM, with a small fee for participating. Personal notebook it's needed. Program: DAY 1*: Historical introduction Puredata introduction presenting some relevant project DAY 2: How to use it: basic programming concepts >From the basis: Gui and Configuration Make Image Move: GEM library introduction DAY 3: In depth: using GEM in a interactive way Lego's game: collective building sharing data structures DAY 4: Sharing data: network communication (udp and OSC protocol) Control the data controller: how to use external devices** My first patch: every one work on her/his project *every class session will be about 3 hours except first day (about 2 hours) **Bring with you your Ipod touch/iPhone, your NintendoDs with homework bootloader, your wiimote, your gamePad, your Arduino, or what you thik useful! MORE INFOS: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net FIRST ARTISTS IN THE PROGRAM: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/2009/en/artists/ cheers -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Multimedia Artist, Live Performer Roma, IT LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] Call for contributions [was: CDM articles on Pd]
by Marco Donnarumma 06 May '09

06 May '09

Hi all, ok, i guess that the idea to contribute to CreateDigitalMotion is not interesting for the list. IMHO it's a great opportunity. So sorry.... i make a little (last) "up" again for the topic. I can go through this alone, but it won't be the same... i'm not asking to loose to much time on it, but just to send me examples patches (as most of us do everyday here) related to the following topic. Experiments you are doing in *audio/video processing**, live video**, sound-reactive video, **video-reactive sounds*. I will then organize your infos and write then an explaination, a description and whatever is needed to build the article refering to the original author of the process. it doesn't have to be totally perfect, is just a showcase... I know everyone is super busy and me too! :) but this is a great chance to show Pd and it's potential to a even broader audience. thanks again... cheers Marco > @Luigi / list: > > let's say... for ex. i wouldn't like to write about how to do a video mixer > in pd. Many people are working on manuals, doing an excellent work. > My idea is: > > 1_ To show to a broad audience what Pd is capable to do with *audio/video > processing *and/or* physical computing* in the *live video - live media*enviroment. > This doesn't mean that the example should be hyper-basic, neither > hyper-complex. > The target of this "action" on CDM is the audience who already patch > something, somehow. I want to show that there is no need to buy ableton+the > newest max to do suggestive* audiovideo processing*, or *sound-reactive > video*, or *video-reactive sounds *but instead you can use Pd and be > really happy with it. > > I keep on noticing that many people has the stereotype of Pd as a rough > software, which can build nice stuff, but with incredible and unhuman > efforts, having the screen fullfilled of chords building strange shapes. > This is scary for most of them. > We know that one can use Pd this way, but on the other hand one can build > wonderful (easthetically and practically) patches. > i saw through this list amazing pieces, even little utilities... i remember > a monome sequencer which was a jewel also because of its great interface, > and another patch which was creating fluid movements of semi-transparent - > multicolor circles. > > The examples i would like to collect don't have to be absolutely innovative > (if they are then,.. great!) but also simple utilities which fit in the > description above. > Naturally all the example i will write about will be linked to their > author. > > 2_On the other side i would like to open a window on the Pd community, > reporting the most important announcements: from a new release, the > publication of a book, a call for the next conference and so on... > highlighting the activity of the community. > > > @Jose: that sounds great, but i think there is a lot to say about that, > isn't it? > Maybe it's something to be divided in episodes? > > Hi Marco, i am working in the integration of pure data with arduino and i > can prepare a abstract for you... videos, etc... prosthetic hardware for > multimedia. > > Cheers from CHile > Jos? > > 2009/5/2 Marco Donnarumm from a <devel(a)thesaddj.com> > > > Hi all, > > i will start to write articles about Pd techniques on CDM - Create > Digital > > Motion http://createdigitalmotion.com/ . > > For who doesn't know it, CDM is a online magazine about motion graphics, > > vjing, audiovideo, and whatever related. > > The editorial staff there used to write few things about Pd. But i > proposed > > them to write more specific articles, with the aim to spread to a broader > > audience the usage of Pd for audiovideo, mixed-media related projects. > There > > are many processes that i discovered partecipating to this mailing list > and > > to the forum, so i would like to spread some of the most interesting > and/or > > unexpected to a broad audience of possible users. > > > > it would be fantastic if the list could contribute with ideas, little > > patches, images, screenshots or whatever you like. I'm still planning how > to > > move on with this, but first i would like to know if this sounds > interesting > > for the list or not. > > > > > > suggestions are very welcome... > > > > cheers > -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Multimedia Artist, Live Performer Roma, IT LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Multimedia Artist, Live Performer Roma, IT LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] CDM articles about Pd - contribution?
by Marco Donnarumma 06 May '09

06 May '09

Hi all, ok, i guess that > @Luigi / list: > > let's say... for ex. i wouldn't like to write about how to do a video mixer > in pd. Many people are working on manuals, doing an excellent work. > My idea is: > > 1_ To show to a broad audience what Pd is capable to do with *audio/video > processing *and/or* physical computing* in the *live video - live media*enviroment. > This doesn't mean that the example should be hyper-basic, neither > hyper-complex. > The target of this "action" on CDM is the audience who already patch > something, somehow. I want to show that there is no need to buy ableton+the > newest max to do suggestive* audiovideo processing*, or *sound-reactive > video*, or *video-reactive sounds *but instead you can use Pd and be > really happy with it. > > I keep on noticing that many people has the stereotype of Pd as a rough > software, which can build nice stuff, but with incredible and unhuman > efforts, having the screen fullfilled of chords building strange shapes. > This is scary for most of them. > We know that one can use Pd this way, but on the other hand one can build > wonderful (easthetically and practically) patches. > i saw through this list amazing pieces, even little utilities... i remember > a monome sequencer which was a jewel also because of its great interface, > and another patch which was creating fluid movements of semi-transparent - > multicolor circles. > > The examples i would like to collect don't have to be absolutely innovative > (if they are then,.. great!) but also simple utilities which fit in the > description above. > Naturally all the example i will write about will be linked to their > author. > > 2_On the other side i would like to open a window on the Pd community, > reporting the most important announcements: from a new release, the > publication of a book, a call for the next conference and so on... > highlighting the activity of the community. > > > @Jose: that sounds great, but i think there is a lot to say about that, > isn't it? > Maybe it's something to be divided in episodes? > > Hi Marco, i am working in the integration of pure data with arduino and i > can prepare a abstract for you... videos, etc... prosthetic hardware for > multimedia. > > Cheers from CHile > Jos? > > 2009/5/2 Marco Donnarumm from a <devel(a)thesaddj.com> > > > Hi all, > > i will start to write articles about Pd techniques on CDM - Create > Digital > > Motion http://createdigitalmotion.com/ . > > For who doesn't know it, CDM is a online magazine about motion graphics, > > vjing, audiovideo, and whatever related. > > The editorial staff there used to write few things about Pd. But i > proposed > > them to write more specific articles, with the aim to spread to a broader > > audience the usage of Pd for audiovideo, mixed-media related projects. > There > > are many processes that i discovered partecipating to this mailing list > and > > to the forum, so i would like to spread some of the most interesting > and/or > > unexpected to a broad audience of possible users. > > > > it would be fantastic if the list could contribute with ideas, little > > patches, images, screenshots or whatever you like. I'm still planning how > to > > move on with this, but first i would like to know if this sounds > interesting > > for the list or not. > > > > > > suggestions are very welcome... > > > > cheers > -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Multimedia Artist, Live Performer Roma, IT LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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