Pd-list March 2009

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8ch diffusion
by Achim Bornhoeft 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

Can anybody help me to extend this patch from 4ch to 8ch? (I found it somewhere...) Or is there an even easier (better) way to do the same. I already tried [vbap] but the objects [define_loudspeaker] and [matrix~] are not recognized by my PD-Extended 40.3 on Max OS 10.5. (see other attachment). Many thanks in advance for your help, Achim Achim Bornhoeft Neckarhalde 38, D-72070 Tuebingen tel/fax +49 (0)7071 942745 mobil +49 (0)179 6936930 skype:achim.bornhoeft?call www.bornhoeft.org

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Gem to screensaver
by Andrew Faraday 14 Mar '09

14 Mar '09

Hey guysPossibly a noob question but is it possible to package a generative gem patch as a screensaver? How would I go about this?God BlessAndrew Faraday _________________________________________________________________ Free photo editing software from Windows Live . Try it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665240/direct/01/

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Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 14 Mar '09

14 Mar '09

Hey all, The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. You will then work with a student, either locally or remotely. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. If you are a student, then you should apply as a student to get funded. Mentors get $500 and students get $4500 for working on something Pd related. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White

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visible bang without output
by Nicolas Montgermont 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hi list, Is there a simple solution to have the GUI bang visually shows a bang but without output? As the others GUI object do with the set message. [set bang( outputs a bang. Thanks, Nicolas -- http://nim.on.free.fr

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httpget: fun with tcpclient and pdstring
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

I made [httpget] for fetching webpages into pd: .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://at.or.at/hans/

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EzPd (Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!)
by Kyle Klipowicz 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Thanks everyone for your replies and suggestions! It's good to know I'm not alone in my frustrations. I would really love to work on this project, since it would make it easier for me to teach K-8 students about acoustics and math using Pd if there were more LEGO-like primitives to snap together easily. If we can get something like this up as a candidate for GSoC, some wonderful things could arise from it. Most definitely, the names should be very easy to understand. That is part of my frustration right now with Pd-extended. There is a wealth of stuff, but it's all named oddly by different people and is difficult to explore in a meaningful way. Part of me thinks that Pd-extended needs to cut the fat a little bit...maybe a Pd-intended version? Only including an organized catalog of well-named, glue-able parts that all play nice together? ~Kyle On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Enrique Erne <enrique(a)netpd.org> wrote: > hi Kyle > > i love the idea of a Classic Unit Library (CUL?) > BBB - Beginners Building Blocks > WSP - (Where to Start with Pd) > WSP - warm swimming pool :) > > for me the first step would be to write some specs: > - coding style guide (who did it? luke?), license, naming convention, howto > contribute > and also analyze existing libs: pdmtl, rjlib maybe you could even just > build on them? > > i'd like to see the WSP Lib: > - bsd > - flat > - super simple black&white interfaces > - as pure as possible > - a minimum of possible dependencies > - not gopish ? > - howto contribute? > - with self explaining naming? > > > i'm just about to upload my zipped netpd directory. > http://netpd.org/eni/downloads/?C=M;O=D > (8.9MB because there are some samples) > > eni > > > > > > Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > >> How about this project: >> Beginners Building Blocks. >> >> Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth with an >> ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the box. What if >> there >> were some entry-level abstractions in a very OBVIOUS location that people >> could instantly piece together some classic Unit Generators. Important for >> these would be the ability to copy/paste items from a main page of >> abstractions. Also, they should have a simple GUI interface, and possibly >> be >> set up automatically to use SSAD. >> >> I'm thinking stuff like: >> >> -basic envelope generators >> -basic oscillators (bandlimited ones would be nice): sine, square, >> triangle, >> sawtooth >> -basic i/o that is more intuitive to newbies >> -basic sample players (one shot, looping, pitch shifting, multi-sample a >> la >> fluidsynth) >> -basic MIDI controller mapping tools (so people could just twist a knob to >> assign a parameter) >> -basic step, piano roll, &c sequencers >> -basic pitch/rhythm analysis (wrappers for sigmund~, fiddle~, and bonk~) >> -basic modular counters >> -an extensive collection of examples using these objects, documenting >> parameters, as well as ways to connect and/or modify and save new versions >> of objects using SSAD >> -video stuff would also be great, something akin to a freshened up >> PixelTango. >> >> Anyway, I just thought these things would be really nice to have in an >> accessible place in Pd-extended. Because right now whenever I just want to >> make something very simple, i end up having to click a mouse about 200 >> times >> which is annoying and makes me worried about RTS! >> >> Pd and Pd-extended are so difficult to navigate for newbies. There need to >> be more "pick up and go" audio tools. I'm thinking of how Reaktor and >> Max/MSP are so easy to dive into. Pd is a lot like a cold cold ocean >> whereas >> the other two are nice warm swimming pools. Pd is deeper and more exciting >> by far, but you can get swept away in an undertow never to return! >> >> This project could be accomplished by merging elements from NetPd, Pdmtl, >> and various slick patches made by the resident list geniuses. (Another >> thing >> about NetPd if Roman and Eni are listening: can you make a tar.gz or zip >> download of ALL current NetPd patches? I hate having to download 30+ items >> one at a time. RTS fears again!) >> >> So there's my way more than 2 cents. Take what you will from it. >> >> ~Kyle >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> >> wrote: >> >> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application >>>>>> is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, >>>>>> you >>>>>> just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, >>>>>> we'll >>>>>> choose projects and who will mentor them. >>>>>> Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not >>>>>> student >>>>>> anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored >>>>>> projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. >>>>>> >>>>> Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? >>>>> >>>>> add your names, hurry! :) >>>>> >>>> yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for >>>> me to >>>> take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c >>>> coding. >>>> from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which >>>> seems >>>> to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor. >>>> does >>>> it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project? >>>> >>> You could also create a new project based on something like creating >>> libraries out of all that useful code in netpd. Basically, think of >>> something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor. >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> >>> >>>> roman >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________ >>>> Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// >>>> messenger.yahoo.de >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of >>> exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an >>> idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps >>> it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into >>> the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself >>> of it. - Thomas Jefferson >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > -- ----- ------------ ---- ----- ---- -------- - ------ http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz

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*weird* characters
by potax flan 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

hi using [textfile], i want to concatenate long strings of *unusual* characters (like the "triangle" or Delta character you get by pressing ALT, caps, d). maybe there is an alternative to [textfile]? Is there a way to handle these characters in pd (have them in a message, then add them to textfile would be wonderful)? if i press ALT caps d while editing a message i get an error rectangle – is it because the font in pd cant deal with the ∆ sign? can i use ascii codes for this? key gives me 8710 for delta, any way i can use that? thanks

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[PD-announce] Hack Yer iPod! in Liverpool, March 12th thru 17th
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

Hey, come join me in Liverpool at FACT and hack your iPod! It starts tomorrow, its pretty last minute, we have dates, but the times aren't ironed out yet. Where: http://fact.co.uk/ in Liverpool, England When: March 12th thru 17th (check the website for times) Have an iPod you want to repurpose into a hackable music machine? Install iPodLinux and make music with Pd! Want to play Doom on your iPod Video? Come install Rockbox! Did your trusty iPod’s battery finally die, or disk give in? Come and break open your iPod, either the software, the hardware or both. Give it new life and new purpose. Also, we have on hand our stash of old iPods for harvesting parts, and the newfound skills for frankensteining dead iPods into living ones. Join Hans-Christoph Steiner and Chris “the Widget” DiMauro with your own iPod, or try your hand to see if you can create a living one from our pile. This workshop is a place to get exposed to the possibilities. We’ve been hacking on some iPods to see what’s possible. Lots of this software is kind of raw, but you can do lots of fun stuff now. We are just getting started, we are having fun exploring the options. Now we want to help you do the same. Check out our web page to see if your devices are supported: http://dev.eyebeam.org/projects/reware/wiki/FactWorkshop .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
by Hans Roels 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

In fact I'm working on a very similar project (called 'abunch') since a year, I hope to release it in one of the following weeks. Everything is in pd vanilla. I tried to make it as user friendly as possible, I've been testing and using it a lot in my lessons. It contains a lot of the units that you mentioned... Hans R At 16:53 12/03/2009, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: >How about this project: > >Beginners Building Blocks. > >Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth >with an ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the >box. What if there were some entry-level abstractions in a very >OBVIOUS location that people could instantly piece together some >classic Unit Generators. Important for these would be the ability to >copy/paste items from a main page of abstractions. Also, they should >have a simple GUI interface, and possibly be set up automatically to use SSAD. > >I'm thinking stuff like: > >-basic envelope generators >-basic oscillators (bandlimited ones would be nice): sine, square, >triangle, sawtooth >-basic i/o that is more intuitive to newbies >-basic sample players (one shot, looping, pitch shifting, >multi-sample a la fluidsynth) >-basic MIDI controller mapping tools (so people could just twist a >knob to assign a parameter) >-basic step, piano roll, &c sequencers >-basic pitch/rhythm analysis (wrappers for sigmund~, fiddle~, and bonk~) >-basic modular counters >-an extensive collection of examples using these objects, >documenting parameters, as well as ways to connect and/or modify and >save new versions of objects using SSAD >-video stuff would also be great, something akin to a freshened up PixelTango. > >Anyway, I just thought these things would be really nice to have in >an accessible place in Pd-extended. Because right now whenever I >just want to make something very simple, i end up having to click a >mouse about 200 times which is annoying and makes me worried about RTS! > >Pd and Pd-extended are so difficult to navigate for newbies. There >need to be more "pick up and go" audio tools. I'm thinking of how >Reaktor and Max/MSP are so easy to dive into. Pd is a lot like a >cold cold ocean whereas the other two are nice warm swimming pools. >Pd is deeper and more exciting by far, but you can get swept away in >an undertow never to return! > >This project could be accomplished by merging elements from NetPd, >Pdmtl, and various slick patches made by the resident list geniuses. >(Another thing about NetPd if Roman and Eni are listening: can you >make a tar.gz or zip download of ALL current NetPd patches? I hate >having to download 30+ items one at a time. RTS fears again!) > >So there's my way more than 2 cents. Take what you will from it. > >~Kyle > > >On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner ><<mailto:hans@eds.org>hans(a)eds.org> wrote: >On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: > >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >>> The Google Summer of Code > ((<http://code.google.com/soc/>http://code.google.com/soc/) application > >>> is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, > >>> you > >>> just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, > >>> we'll > >>> choose projects and who will mentor them. > >> > >>> Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not > >>> student > >>> anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored > >>> projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. > >> > >> Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? > >> > >> add your names, hurry! :) > > > > yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for > > me to > > take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c > > coding. > > from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which > > seems > > to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor. > > does > > it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project? >You could also create a new project based on something like creating >libraries out of all that useful code in netpd. Basically, think of >something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor. >.hc > > > > > > > roman > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// > > <http://messenger.yahoo.de>messenger.yahoo.de > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of >exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an >idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps >it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into >the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself >of it. - Thomas Jefferson > > >_______________________________________________ ><mailto:Pd-list@iem.at>Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> ><http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > >-- >----- >------------ > ---- ----- >---- -------- - ------ >http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com ><http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz>http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz >_______________________________________________ >Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
by Hans Roels 13 Mar '09

13 Mar '09

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