Pd-list February 2009

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Re: [PD] PD and Wiring
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

No, it's here: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html .hc On Feb 24, 2009, at 2:10 PM, enrique franco wrote: > Hans, > > Does this object [arduino] come with Pd-extended? > > Thanks, > > Enrique > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner > <hans(a)eds.org> wrote: > > There is a Firmata library for the Wiring board, you should be able > to use that with Pduino [arduino] object. > > .hc > > On Feb 24, 2009, at 11:28 AM, enrique franco wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Does anybody know how to read data coming from Wiring through the >> serial port in PD? >> >> Thanks, >> -- >> Enrique Franco >> Telefono/Phone: +572 5552334 ext 388 >> Webpage: http://richie.idc.ul.ie/~enrique/ >> http://www.iua.upf.es/~ffranco/pfm.htm >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy > is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra > > > > > > -- > Enrique Franco > Telefono/Phone: +572 5552334 ext 388 > Webpage: http://richie.idc.ul.ie/~enrique/ > http://www.iua.upf.es/~ffranco/pfm.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin

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[PD-announce] Liwoli 2009 - Call for projects - Art University Linz
by propaganda＠goto10.org 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

purrr sayz the kitty wooof sayz the puppy sorry sayz the cross-poster -- Liwoli 2009 hacklab for art and open source 23 - 26 April 2009 Art University Linz http://linz.linuxwochen.at -- Liwoli 2009 is a three day long Hacklab and an open invitation to everyone who would like to participate in an active process of learning, producing and sharing ideas around the areas of Free/Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS) and DIY practices in digital art and culture. FLOSS developers, software artists such as the collective GOTO10, activists from HAIP (Hack Act Interact Progress) and many others form the basis for the event and will share their knowledge in the form of workshops, presentations, installations and performances. -- Open Call For the event we are calling for contributions (presentations, workshops and performances) around the FLOSS themes. This invitation is not only for those who are interested in “Do It Yourself” and how it interrelates with the current creative production practices, the invitation is also directed to those who are interested in the cultural importance of FLOSS. Submissions Please send submissions before the 25.03.2009 to call09-liwoli(at)servus(dot)at, with the following information : # Title # Format: lecture, workshop, installation, performance, presentation... # Description of content: # Links to relevant material (mandatory): # Required things: projector, sounds system, running water, compressed # air, cheeseburgers -- Organisers & contributors: servus.at, GOTO10, Radio Fro/Haip, Time's Up, lugl.at. Host and Support by: Kunstuniversität Linz Department for Time Based Media and the ZID der Kunstuniversität Linz Funds: servus.at funded by BM:UK, Stadt Linz (LinzImpuls 2008), Radio FRO/HAIP EU - CULTURE 2007 -- :* _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[ANN] myu Max-Unity Interoperability Toolkit v.1.0 Released
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

It is my great pleasure to announce immediate availability of the μ [myu] Max-Unity Interoperability Toolkit version 1.0. μ [myu] is designed to simplify communication between the Max/MSP/Jitter <http://www.cycling74.com> and Unity3D <http://www.unity3d.com> rapid prototyping environments. Utilizing the TCP network packets, μ [myu] allows for easy bi-directional control of Unity3D and Max/MSP/Jitter assets, as well as importing of dynamic Jitter textures into Unity3D scene. Apart from the Jitter-specific texture communication protocol, μ [myu] relies upon the netsend/netreceive framework, thus making it also compatible with Pure-Data <http://www.pure-data.info>. Max/Msp/Jitter and Unity3D logos are trademarks of their respective owners. WHY μ? Max/MSP/Jitter and Pure-Data offer unprecedented flexibility in digital signal processing, particularly audio, as well as easy integration of external controllers and sensors, video, and 3D assets, while Unity3D is an advanced scalable and optimized 3D gaming engine with integrated intuitive scene editor and physics engine. By coupling their strengths μ [myu] aims to expand their rapid prototyping potential with minimal integration overhead. μ [myu] was developed at DISIS <http://disis.music.vt.edu> and is available for download from the DISIS website <http://disis.music.vt.edu/main/portfolio.html>. For a YouTube tech demo please visit <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=137huPA9sto>. A high-resolution video available at <http://disis.music.vt.edu/main/portfolio.html>. COPYRIGHT μ [myu] copyright DISIS 2008. This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the version 3 of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. For additional info on the GNU General Public License see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>. Questions, Comments, and PR Contacts: <ico(a)vt.edu> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Dept. of Music - 0240 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico(a)vt.edu http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/

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PD and Wiring
by enrique franco 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hi, Does anybody know how to read data coming from Wiring through the serial port in PD? Thanks, -- Enrique Franco Telefono/Phone: +572 5552334 ext 388 Webpage: http://richie.idc.ul.ie/~enrique/ http://www.iua.upf.es/~ffranco/pfm.htm

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[PD-announce] Fwd: NYC Blender Users's meeting: Sat. Mar. 7th 2pm
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Since he's showing Blender+ Pd, I thought I forward it here: Begin forwarded message: > From: Nick Porcaro <nick(a)porcaro.org> > Date: February 21, 2009 7:55:49 PM EST > To: Nick Porcaro <nick(a)porcaro.org> > Subject: NYC Blender Users's meeting: Sat. Mar. 7th 2pm, Polytechnic > University, Rogers Hall room 474 > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) > > The New York City Blender User's Group http://www.blendernyc.org > is holding a meeting at Polytechnic University, Brooklyn, in Rogers > Hall room 474 at 2 pm. > Saturday March 7th at 2 pm > > Directions: http://www.poly.edu/directions > > We have the space for 5 hours. > > I plan to make a presentation on the work I've been doing with the > Blender Game Engine and > Pure Data http://www.puredata.org in support of free improv art/ > music, and Daniel Houghton will > be discussing his short film called Pitch: > http://download.blender.org/demo/movies/bc08/Best_short_film/Daniel-Houghto… > > This gathering is for anyone interested in connecting or > reconnecting to the Blender community > in New York City. We encourage presentations of recent work, future > projects, and ideas for collaboration. > However, if you would like to attend simply to listen, please do. > > Blender http://www.blender.org is a free open source 3D content > creation suite, available for all major operating systems under the > GNU General Public License. It compares well to software like Maya or > 3D Studio Max. > > If you want to see what Blender is capable of, see: > > Elephant's Dream: http://www.elephantsdream.org > Big Buck Bunny: http://www.bigbuckbunny.org > and Yo Frankie!: http://www.yofrankie.org > > These projects were all supported by the Blender Foundation, > and you can download all the .blend files for these projects at > the sites shown above. Yo Frankie! is particularly interesting > in that it represents lots of recent improvements to the Blender Game > Engine, enabling more advanced real time support. > > Hope to see you there! > > Please RSVP, as Polytechnic has asked me for a head count. > > - Nick Porcaro > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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symbol anxiety
by Phil Stone 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hi everybody, Ever since I first started programming with Pd, I have had a vague anxiety about symbols, or to be more exact, symbol table growth. Now, I've never run into a problem in real life, but the worry is still there, nagging at me, ever since I read on a Pd-list thread that each symbol takes up permanent, un-reclaimable space in a symbol table. So, I've always been wary about employing many symbols, or having some dynamic process that creates many symbols on the fly. Attached is [maketime], a lovely little timer/stopwatch. I've long since lost track of who made it, so I'm sorry can't give you well-deserved credit here. At any rate, it creates *at least* one symbol per second (probably more, I'm not sure if each [makefilename] generates a new symbol, but I'm guessing it does). This makes me nervous, as I have no idea what the symbol table capacity is, or how to see how "full" it is. It seems likely that this abstraction would crash eventually. A) Is it true that [maketime] would continually grow the symbol table? B) Is it possible to tell how full the symbol table is? How much memory is allocated to it in the first place? C) Wouldn't it be nice to have some truly transient symbols, that could be abstraction-local, or at least, re-usable? Cheers, Phil Stone #N canvas 300 22 311 311 12; #X obj 36 10 cnv 15 220 40 empty *time-display-cnv-in* 0:00:00 20 18 0 36 -1 -241291 0; #X msg 35 235 \; *time-display-cnv-in* label \$1; #X obj 69 155 + 1; #X obj 35 154 f; #X obj 35 111 metro 1000; #X msg 133 111 0; #X obj 35 83 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 ; #X floatatom 35 182 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 133 85 loadbang; #N canvas 0 22 450 459 sec-to-time-symbol 0; #X obj 24 17 inlet; #X obj 50 337 outlet; #X msg 84 258 set \$1; #X obj 50 312 makefilename not-set-yet; #X floatatom 50 258 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 171 177 set \$1; #X obj 84 205 makefilename not-set-yet; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 format 0; #X obj 24 20 inlet; #X obj 24 224 outlet; #X obj 91 105 + 1; #X obj 24 47 t f f; #X obj 24 171 makefilename 0%d; #X obj 176 171 makefilename %d; #X obj 91 80 >= 10; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 gate2 0; #X obj 44 237 spigot; #X obj 44 262 outlet; #X obj 123 238 spigot; #X obj 123 263 outlet; #X obj 21 30 inlet; #X obj 288 38 inlet; #X obj 359 129 loadbang; #X obj 93 194 unpack 0 0; #X obj 288 62 route 0 1 2; #X msg 350 95 0 1; #X msg 319 127 1 0; #X msg 288 166 0 0; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 5 0 8 0; #X connect 6 0 11 0; #X connect 7 0 0 1; #X connect 7 1 2 1; #X connect 8 0 11 0; #X connect 8 1 10 0; #X connect 8 2 9 0; #X connect 9 0 7 0; #X connect 10 0 7 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X restore 24 133 pd gate2; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 7 1; #X connect 3 0 7 0; #X connect 3 1 6 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 2 0; #X connect 7 0 4 0; #X connect 7 1 5 0; #X restore 84 177 pd format; #X obj 171 84 % 60; #X obj 85 82 / 60; #X obj 85 115 int; #X obj 84 142 % 60; #X obj 24 115 int; #X obj 24 82 / 3600; #X obj 24 44 t f f f; #X obj 84 234 makefilename %%d:%s; #X obj 171 153 makefilename %%s:%s; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 format 0; #X obj 24 20 inlet; #X obj 24 224 outlet; #X obj 91 105 + 1; #X obj 24 47 t f f; #X obj 24 171 makefilename 0%d; #X obj 176 171 makefilename %d; #X obj 91 80 >= 10; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 gate2 0; #X obj 44 237 spigot; #X obj 44 262 outlet; #X obj 123 238 spigot; #X obj 123 263 outlet; #X obj 21 30 inlet; #X obj 288 38 inlet; #X obj 359 129 loadbang; #X obj 93 194 unpack 0 0; #X obj 288 62 route 0 1 2; #X msg 350 95 0 1; #X msg 319 127 1 0; #X msg 288 166 0 0; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 5 0 8 0; #X connect 6 0 11 0; #X connect 7 0 0 1; #X connect 7 1 2 1; #X connect 8 0 11 0; #X connect 8 1 10 0; #X connect 8 2 9 0; #X connect 9 0 7 0; #X connect 10 0 7 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X restore 24 133 pd gate2; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 7 1; #X connect 3 0 7 0; #X connect 3 1 6 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 2 0; #X connect 7 0 4 0; #X connect 7 1 5 0; #X restore 171 116 pd format; #X connect 0 0 14 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 15 0; #X connect 7 0 6 0; #X connect 8 0 17 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 10 0 11 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 12 0 4 0; #X connect 13 0 12 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 14 1 9 0; #X connect 14 2 8 0; #X connect 15 0 2 0; #X connect 16 0 5 0; #X connect 17 0 16 0; #X restore 35 208 pd sec-to-time-symbol; #X text 176 111 reset time; #X text 57 83 start; #X connect 2 0 3 1; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 3 0 7 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 7 0; #X connect 5 0 3 1; #X connect 6 0 4 0; #X connect 7 0 9 0; #X connect 8 0 5 0; #X connect 9 0 1 0;

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I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.
by Geoff 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hi I am using PD-extended 0.40.3 on a Macbook osx 10.4 but I cannot seem to get the GEM bits to work. I am going through the PMPD example patches but none of the GEM objects work. I have looked into the contents of PD extended and I can see lots of help files related to GEM in there. But if I try to create a GEM object I just get the dotted red box. So I went to the Pure community website and downloaded GEM for mac OSX but there are not instructions for installing on MAC OSX their were instructions for pc and linux but no osx. I am stuck I have googled this, but can't find an answer. How do I get the GEM objects to work in PD on mac OSX 10.4? Any help appreciated as I am getting no-where :) cheers geoff

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Dynamically created signal object bug
by Luke Iannini 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

Hi all, Here's another bug I've just managed to boil down and reproduce. I'm kind of surprised at this one - I thought it was a pretty common thing to dynamically spawn signal objects. The bug is: a dynamically spawned abstraction containing signal objects won't start processing/generating audio until you either delete an object in the parent patch or connect two signal objects together. As usual this is tested on Pd-e 0.40.3 and Pd 0.42-4... Can anyone confirm? Thanks! Luke

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Re: [PD] finding funding to the PdCon09
by Alexandre Porres 24 Feb '09

24 Feb '09

yep. I did ask some Austrians I know :) another thing is the Swiss Pro Helvetia fund. It seems that any who did study some time there can apply. And I see they were partners with the previous convention. I will get in touch with them too, but anybody knows how did that work in the past? cheers alex

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Re: [PD] I am a new user confused as to why I cant get GEM object to work.
by Jack 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Maybe, remove your pref : org.puredata.pd.plist in ~/Library/ Preferences/ and retry. ++ Jack Le 23 févr. 09 à 20:08, Geoff a écrit : > Just installed X11 from OSX 10.4 dvd > > I get the following on start up > > libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ > written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > compiled on Jul 29 2008 at 03:24:20 > compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended > /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/Gem/ > Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ > Resources/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/ > X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib > Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/ > extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin > Reason: no suitable image found. Did find: > /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib: mach-o, but wrong architecture > Gem: can't load library > libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'list-abs' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'memento' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'pddp' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'pixeltango' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'rradical' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'jmmmp' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path > /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ > pdp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ > Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/ > lib/libX11.6.dylib > Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/ > extra/pdp.pd_darwin > Reason: no suitable image found. Did find: > /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib: mach-o, but wrong architecture > pdp: can't load library > /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ > pidip.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/ > Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/ > X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib > Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/ > extra/pidip.pd_darwin > Reason: no suitable image found. Did find: > /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib: mach-o, but wrong architecture > pidip: can't load library > > installing X11 hasn't yet cure the problem when I create an object > like [genwin] its still red. > > Geoff > > > On 23 Feb 2009, at 18:19, Jack wrote: > >> Have you installed X11 ? >> What did you get in your console when you start Pd ? >> ++ >> >> Jack >> >> >> Le 23 févr. 09 à 19:09, Geoff a écrit : >> >>> Hi >>> I am using PD-extended 0.40.3 on a Macbook osx 10.4 >>> >>> but I cannot seem to get the GEM bits to work. >>> >>> I am going through the PMPD example patches but none of the GEM >>> objects work. >>> >>> I have looked into the contents of PD extended and I can see lots of >>> help files related to GEM in there. >>> >>> But if I try to create a GEM object I just get the dotted red box. >>> >>> So I went to the Pure community website and downloaded GEM for mac >>> OSX but there are not instructions for installing on MAC OSX their >>> were instructions for pc and linux but no osx. >>> >>> I am stuck I have googled this, but can't find an answer. >>> >>> >>> How do I get the GEM objects to work in PD on mac OSX 10.4? >>> >>> Any help appreciated as I am getting no-where :) >>> >>> cheers >>> geoff >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >

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