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Re: [PD] how to locate soundfiles in the "read" object under OS X
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

Lao Yu wrote: > IOhannes, > > the only resource concerning relative paths I found is this: > > ~ Home directory: can use '~username' as well. > / Root directory: all folders are located within or below this one. > . Current working directory: your current relative location. > ./ Same as above. > .. Directory above your current relative location. > ../ Same as above. > > Is this exhaustive? From what you say, I wouldn't understand how another > machine running OS X would fail to locate this file to load : > > /volumes/drive-name/folder/file i was merely indicating that another machine running OS X will probably have a different naming and thus will break. no magic involved. for one thing, which HFS/HFS+ seem to be case-insensitive, your "/volumes" might work, but there are people who managed to setup OSX on case-sensitive file-systems that _require_ "/Volumes" and anyhow: what i really wanted to say is: i have a file "scream.wav" sitting in my Project "iowa" on my powerbook. i am pretty sure that if i were using it's full path "/Volumes/PowerBoook/Users/zmoelnig/projects/iowa/scream.wav" in my patch, i couldn't "just" share it with you (regardless of your operating system) mfgasd.r IOhannes

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CPU usage
by mami music 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

Hi list. Im using a pd patch to play .ogg files all day long on a windows computer. The files are played one after another reading them from a folder in the computer. At some point (let's say once or twice every 12 hours) the CPU usage of pd.exe goes to the top and the file that is being played slows down as if it was downsampled, and gets disstorted. This lasts for like 5 minutes. And then the reproduction goes back to normal. Can someone from the list gimme a clue about this behaviour and a way to work it? Thanks Daniel

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how to locate soundfiles in the "read" object under OS X
by Lao Yu 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

Hi, this is a total beginner's question. In the example patches in a few instances soundfiles are read to tables with a "read" object. the arborescence in those examples looks like this "read ../" where after the slash appears the folder "sound" which is inside the application package. I conclude that the abbreviation ".." moves up one level in the arborescence relative to the location from where the current patch is located. I can't figure out how to open soundfiles which are on an external device. All my attempts resulted in a pd error message "no such file or directory". I'd very much appreciate a hint or a link. Best Jurgen

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Random - Different seed each time the patch is loaded
by Ignacio Viano 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

I want many (let's say 10) [random] objects that give different series of numbers each time the patch is loaded (of course, the 10 [random] give different series from each other). I tried using [time] and [date] objects to generate different seeds, but the same seed (different on each load) is given to the 10 [random]. I tried using a mix of [date], [time] and [realtime], but it's quite unreliable. Any ideas? Thanks Ignacio

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Re: [PD] select audio & midi from patc
by Derek Holzer 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

This problem would be handled with your PD settings, i.e. set it up to use ALSA-MIDI and the ports will appear in Jack. If you want them tied to MIDI ports from another app, you could use the bash utility "aconnect", perhaps as a startup script. See the last section of this chapter: http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/StartingPD (Comments and corrections welcome, BTW!) best! Derek simone-www.io-lab.org wrote: >> I hope there's a way to do it. > i am also interested to know if the midi/audio settings can be handled > from within the patch, for example the midi ports don t show in jack > before you activate them so something like a > loadbang--1--<loadmidiports> together with lash would make a patch > ready at every startup. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 12: "Always give yourself credit for having more than personality"

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Re: [PD] re-linking video libraries - stabilizing libraries.
by Mark Pasquesi 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

I'm having trouble with Pd and video on.... 1) g4 portable - titanium, 1 gig RAM - 0sx.3.9, osx.4.11 gem is unstable, as is pidip 2) minimac intel 1.83 mhz duo - mac 10.4.11 runs great!! but a) Ubuntu 2.6.20-16-generic - gem cannot acces vid libraries, nor can pidip b) Dyne:bolic /2618ck1d.krn - gem cannot find libs, nor can pidip nor gridflow on both Ubuntu and Dyne .... Kino functions..... Meaning there must be a bad refernce or library use .... Can I relink or grep these? Any ideas why we are good on mac, but on the same computer, bad for linux? So, can I link these libraries to Kino's dependencies? or to ffmpeg? How?? finally, on an older HP omnibook, I cannot get Ubuntu dapper, or Feisty(upgraded) or Dynebolic (with Pure:dyne modules) to function with any video program....yet.... Thus, no gem or gridflow or pidip video..... thanks, Mark --- On Sun, 9/7/08, pd-list-request(a)iem.at <pd-list-request(a)iem.at> wrote: From: pd-list-request(a)iem.at <pd-list-request(a)iem.at> Subject: Pd-list Digest, Vol 42, Issue 21 To: pd-list(a)iem.at Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 8:36 PM Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to pd-list(a)iem.at To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pd-list-request(a)iem.at You can reach the person managing the list at pd-list-owner(a)iem.at When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Capturing computer s own video stream (simone-www.io-lab.org) 2. Re: mrmr + iphone + pd (Steffen Juul) 3. Re: Capturing computer s own video stream (husk) 4. Re: mrmr + iphone + pd (mark edward grimm) 5. tcpclient sending more than 1 send at once (Enrique Erne) 6. AVLAB 1.0 - Call for Collaborators (Hans-Christoph Steiner) 7. Re: netpd server crashes (Roman Haefeli) 8. Re: select audio & midi from patch (Roman Haefeli) 9. Re: select audio & midi from patch (tim) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:08:01 +0200 From: simone-www.io-lab.org <cimo75(a)gmail.com> Subject: [PD] Capturing computer s own video stream To: "pd-list(a)iem.at data" <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <e06043d70809070308yb72aeb1sc376b616a2d2ac07(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi (again) i would like to be able to capture part of the screen of the computer where pure data is running: some kind of video snapshot in real time. For example: get a window 400x400 offset 600+400 on screen:0 and send it to position 0+0 to screen:1 or send it to another machine via OSC Simone -- .wmv , .wma , .pps along with all proprietary Windows formats won t be accepted and/or viewed.... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:55:48 +0200 From: Steffen Juul <stffn(a)dibidut.dk> Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd To: mgrimm(a)syr.edu Cc: pd_list <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <C9B5EDF6-C126-44CB-8E7D-6B450CA7E941(a)dibidut.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On 06/09/2008, at 17.20, mark edward grimm wrote: > hello, > > i just noticed that cydia offers 'mrmr' on the 2.0 jailbroken > iphones. i never tried it on the old 1.1.4 firmware so im not > certain how to connect the iphone to pd. im on osx 10.5. is there a > tutorial on how to make the connection to send osc? There is this: http://poly.share.dj/helpfiles/mrmr_quickstart/ mrmr_quickstart.pdf The interface builder (mrmrIB) doesn't seam to run on 10.4 but on 10.5 - so your are lucky. I haven't tried the IB yet as i don't run 10.5, but i was to make a performance app/interface combo for a friend who got one of them phones. It doesn't say much about it in the tutorial but i suspect that while building the interface you'd give the widgets a "OSC-name". I would be nice to know what you cook up. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:25:10 +0800 From: husk <husk00(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PD] Capturing computer s own video stream To: "pd-list(a)iem.at data" <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <48C3D636.8010909(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed simone-www.io-lab.org escribi?: > hi (again) > i would like to be able to capture part of the screen of the computer > where pure data is running: some kind of video snapshot in real time. > For example: get a window 400x400 offset 600+400 on screen:0 and send > it to position 0+0 to screen:1 or send it to another machine via OSC > Simone > Hi, with PDP you can use pdp_capture for do it maybe performances are not so good... bye Husk > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT) From: mark edward grimm <mgrimm(a)syr.edu> Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd To: Steffen Juul <stffn(a)dibidut.dk> Cc: pd_list <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <295470.42486.qm(a)web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii well after banging my head against the wall for a couple hours late yesterday afternoon i found the trouble to be with the 'pipeline' object in my patch... it also was odd that i couldn't connect prior to firing up the interface builder (mrmrIB) app. once i did that that mrmr auto-connected upon launch whether mrmrIB was launched or not. also i noticed that mrmr does not seem to retain its port settings - i have to re-type it in every time the app is launched. once its running it controls my patch just fine and fairly fast! > I would be nice to > know what you cook up. just using it as demo for my students right now. all incoming freshman received a free 'ipod touch' with the purchase of a mac - so they all have the means to experiment now! fun fun.... mark --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Steffen Juul <stffn(a)dibidut.dk> wrote: > From: Steffen Juul <stffn(a)dibidut.dk> > Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd > To: mgrimm(a)syr.edu > Cc: "pd_list" <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 8:55 AM > On 06/09/2008, at 17.20, mark edward grimm wrote: > > > hello, > > > > i just noticed that cydia offers 'mrmr' on the > 2.0 jailbroken > > iphones. i never tried it on the old 1.1.4 firmware so > im not > > certain how to connect the iphone to pd. im on osx > 10.5. is there a > > tutorial on how to make the connection to send osc? > > There is this: > http://poly.share.dj/helpfiles/mrmr_quickstart/ > mrmr_quickstart.pdf > > The interface builder (mrmrIB) doesn't seam to run on > 10.4 but on > 10.5 - so your are lucky. I haven't tried the IB yet as > i don't run > 10.5, but i was to make a performance app/interface combo > for a > friend who got one of them phones. It doesn't say much > about it in > the tutorial but i suspect that while building the > interface you'd > give the widgets a "OSC-name". I would be nice to > know what you cook up. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:59:38 -0400 From: Enrique Erne <enrique(a)netpd.org> Subject: [PD] tcpclient sending more than 1 send at once To: pd-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <48C3EC5A.3000603(a)netpd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed hi martin and the list if i send [send 11, send 22, send 33, send 44, send 55( to [tcpclient] the [tcpserver] prints receive: 11 22 33 44 55 actually i expected to get 5 messages back. is this a bug or am i wrong? thanks eni ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:38:11 -0400 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> Subject: [PD] AVLAB 1.0 - Call for Collaborators To: "pd-list(a)iem.at data" <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <CE2E0B58-681A-4C59-8A1B-0D0E39671361(a)eds.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed <International Project Development Workshop> Call for Collaborators AVLAB 1.0 In Medialab-Prado (Madrid / Spain), from September 17 through October 1, 2008 Submissions deadline: September 15, 2008 Medialab-Prado issues a call for all those interested in taking part in the AVLAB 1.0 collaborating in the development of the selected proposals. These ten projects aim to use open source hardware and software tools to create prototypes that explore the relation between sound and all those artistic practices where audio and image intersect. Submission Form and Call Guidelines: http://medialab-prado.es/article/taller_avlab_10_- _convocatoria_para_colaboradores Abstracts of selected Projects: http://medialab-prado.es/article/list_of_selected_projects Workshop general guidelines: http://medialab-prado.es/article/avlab_10 Go to AVLAB 1.0 forum and contact authors, teachers and other collaborators: http://forommm.intermediae.es/viewforum.php?id=11 In collaboration with EXPERIMENTACLUB 08 and the Centro para la Difusi?n de la M?sica Contempor?nea. More information: www.medialab-prado.es ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:05:30 +0200 From: Roman Haefeli <reduzierer(a)yahoo.de> Subject: Re: [PD] netpd server crashes To: pd-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <1220810730.6499.31.camel@yoyo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 hi john sorry for late reply (i currently only have internet sporadically) i tried to make a netpd-server based on [tcpserver] from mrpeach instead of [netserver] from maxlib. it wasn't that straightforward as i thought in the beginning, because i had to use another library pdstring from moocow in order to convert string to ascii and vice versa. also i had to 'implement' the FUDI protocol to make the new server behave exactly like the old one. i was running the new server on netpd.org for testing and it seemed to work at first glance. BUT: when i tried to upload some patches to other clients, transmission didn't work at all. it always stopped at some point. i hadn't the time to figure out, what exactly was going on, so i just switched back to the old server (netpd-server.pd). you'll find all the different servers on: http://www.netpd.org/server right now, don't use 'netpd-server-tcpserver.pd', which is unfortunately broken. the other ones are based on [netserver] and might crash after a while, but at least the seem to fully work beside that. ------------ just for your information: i am not happy about the 'proprietary' FUDI based protocol, that netpd uses right now. we (eni and me) are trying to port netpd to plain OSC protocol. therefore i implemented an OSC proxy server in pd. it is currently running on netpd.org on the port 8003. what it does is simply forwarding OSC packets to all/specific clients according to the first field in the OSC address pattern. if everything is going to work well, netpd will use OSC in the future (i hope this makes it easier to connect netpd with other projects). you'll find the specs on: http://www.netpd.org/server (lower section) roman On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:01 -0500, John Harrison wrote: > Roman I haven't checked out the server yet. :-( Is it working for you? > Also will there be a live patch jam this coming Tues CEST 22:00? I > couldn't find it on the website. If it is happening, I'll gear up some > people for it. > > -John > > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 08:25 -0500, John Harrison wrote: > > > > > My interest has been piqued by netpd and a bunch of us here have been > > > playing with it. It's pretty fantastic --- there's only one caveat, > > > which is that the netpd server crashes and pretty easily at that. I've > > > seen the netpd.org server crash a bunch of times now. I downloaded and > > > installed the server patch on an ubuntu Gutsy machine and that crashes > > > similarly. I looked at the patch --- nothing too complex. I suspect > > > there is nothing wrong with the patch itself. > > > > > > I'm suspecting the problem is with netserver, written by Olaf Matthes . > > > I suspect this because netsend~ and netreceive~ crash in my use in > > > similar ways to what I am seeing now with netpd --- Olaf Matthes wrote > > > those too. I was wondering if anybody could confirm or refute that > > > netserver is what is crashing netpd. It would be great if we fixed this. > > > In general I think we have a problem with some externals involving > > > network communication and if we fixed this in several of the externals > > > maybe we would solve a bunch of problems at once. I might be up for a > > > shot at it myself. > > > > > > -John > > > > > > > hi john > > > > i made a new server patch, this time based on [tcpserver]. this one is > > also much cleaner than the old one. unfortunately it requires also > > [any2string] and [string2any] from pdstring from moocow. > > > > you'll find the patch (and also the older versions) on: > > > > http://www.netpd.org/server > > > > i am currently running this one on netpd.org and i am interested to see, > > whether it is possible to crash it or not. it would be good to have any > > feedback from you as well. > > > > roman > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Der fr?he Vogel f?ngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de > > > > > > > > -- > John Harrison > http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison > ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:05:49 +0200 From: Roman Haefeli <reduzierer(a)yahoo.de> Subject: Re: [PD] select audio & midi from patch To: pd-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <1220810749.6499.33.camel@yoyo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 hi svend you can send some message to [s pd] to change sound and midi settings. those messages aren't documented anywhere, though (is that correct?). however, you could do the following: [r pd] | [print settings] then go the menu, choose your settings and hit <ok> and you will see some output. write the output to a [messagebox( (separate each line with a comma), which is connected to [s pd] and bang the [messagebox( whenever you like to restore those exact settings. with a bit of playing around, you might be able to figure out, what each number in the message is used for. then you would be able to compose correct messages without using the above hack. roman roman On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 18:11 -0400, svend foyn wrote: > Hi list > > It's possible to view and change the audio settings from a patch? and > with midi settings?? > I was looking for the internal messages, but there is nothing with > audio & midi. > I hope there's a way to do it. > > Thanks! > sf > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Lo que hay dentro de ti es lo que cuenta - ?Qu? tipo de atleta eres? > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:40:35 +0200 From: tim <info(a)timvets.net> Subject: Re: [PD] select audio & midi from patch To: reduzierer(a)yahoo.de, pd-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <1220812835.9464.6.camel(a)thinkstudio.telenet.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 20:05 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > hi svend > > you can send some message to [s pd] to change sound and midi settings. > those messages aren't documented anywhere, though (is that correct?). > however, you could do the following: > > [r pd] > | > [print settings] > > then go the menu, choose your settings and hit <ok> and you will see > some output. write the output to a [messagebox( (separate each line with > a comma), which is connected to [s pd] and bang the > [messagebox( whenever you like to restore those exact settings. > > with a bit of playing around, you might be able to figure out, what each > number in the message is used for. then you would be able to compose > correct messages without using the above hack. > > roman > hello, A while ago I had a related problem, (iirc, starting pd with -alsamidi flag didn't show the midi ports to aconnect rightaway) I did this: use [r pd]--[print] to see what pd gets sent when you click the menu, and use pd -alsamidi -send "; pd ...whatever the message was" so my start-up command looked somewhat like this: pd -alsamidi -send "; pd midi-dialog 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1" It did _not_ work when I tried it inside the pd patch with a [message(, but only by putting this in the start-up command. gr, Tim > roman > On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 18:11 -0400, svend foyn wrote: > > Hi list > > > > It's possible to view and change the audio settings from a patch? and > > with midi settings?? > > I was looking for the internal messages, but there is nothing with > > audio & midi. > > I hope there's a way to do it. > > > > Thanks! > > sf > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Lo que hay dentro de ti es lo que cuenta - ?Qu? tipo de atleta eres? > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ................................... www.timvets.net info(a)timvets.net, timvets(a)gmail.com 0032 474 89 66 86 skype: tim167_ ................................... ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Pd-list mailing list Pd-list(a)iem.at to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 42, Issue 21 ***************************************

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it's alive! pdPod lives again
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

http://dev.eyebeam.org/projects/reware/blog/40 Despite many things trying to thwart us, Widget has just succeeded in ressurecting pdPod, with help from Marius and me. This is part of the Reware project, where we are aiming to make simple, easy Pd firmwares for a range of devices like iPods, PDAs, gumstix, etc. If you are around NYC on Sept 25th, come to the opening of the exhibit: http://eyebeam.org/engage/engage.php?page=exhibitions&id=190 Or come to the October 14th workshop to try installing Pd on your own device! .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White

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select audio & midi from patch
by svend foyn 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

Hi list It's possible to view and change the audio settings from a patch? and with midi settings?? I was looking for the internal messages, but there is nothing with audio & midi. I hope there's a way to do it. Thanks! sf _________________________________________________________________

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Re: [PD] netpd server crashes
by Roman Haefeli 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

hi john sorry for late reply (i currently only have internet sporadically) i tried to make a netpd-server based on [tcpserver] from mrpeach instead of [netserver] from maxlib. it wasn't that straightforward as i thought in the beginning, because i had to use another library pdstring from moocow in order to convert string to ascii and vice versa. also i had to 'implement' the FUDI protocol to make the new server behave exactly like the old one. i was running the new server on netpd.org for testing and it seemed to work at first glance. BUT: when i tried to upload some patches to other clients, transmission didn't work at all. it always stopped at some point. i hadn't the time to figure out, what exactly was going on, so i just switched back to the old server (netpd-server.pd). you'll find all the different servers on: http://www.netpd.org/server right now, don't use 'netpd-server-tcpserver.pd', which is unfortunately broken. the other ones are based on [netserver] and might crash after a while, but at least the seem to fully work beside that. ------------ just for your information: i am not happy about the 'proprietary' FUDI based protocol, that netpd uses right now. we (eni and me) are trying to port netpd to plain OSC protocol. therefore i implemented an OSC proxy server in pd. it is currently running on netpd.org on the port 8003. what it does is simply forwarding OSC packets to all/specific clients according to the first field in the OSC address pattern. if everything is going to work well, netpd will use OSC in the future (i hope this makes it easier to connect netpd with other projects). you'll find the specs on: http://www.netpd.org/server (lower section) roman On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:01 -0500, John Harrison wrote: > Roman I haven't checked out the server yet. :-( Is it working for you? > Also will there be a live patch jam this coming Tues CEST 22:00? I > couldn't find it on the website. If it is happening, I'll gear up some > people for it. > > -John > > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 08:25 -0500, John Harrison wrote: > > > > > My interest has been piqued by netpd and a bunch of us here have been > > > playing with it. It's pretty fantastic --- there's only one caveat, > > > which is that the netpd server crashes and pretty easily at that. I've > > > seen the netpd.org server crash a bunch of times now. I downloaded and > > > installed the server patch on an ubuntu Gutsy machine and that crashes > > > similarly. I looked at the patch --- nothing too complex. I suspect > > > there is nothing wrong with the patch itself. > > > > > > I'm suspecting the problem is with netserver, written by Olaf Matthes . > > > I suspect this because netsend~ and netreceive~ crash in my use in > > > similar ways to what I am seeing now with netpd --- Olaf Matthes wrote > > > those too. I was wondering if anybody could confirm or refute that > > > netserver is what is crashing netpd. It would be great if we fixed this. > > > In general I think we have a problem with some externals involving > > > network communication and if we fixed this in several of the externals > > > maybe we would solve a bunch of problems at once. I might be up for a > > > shot at it myself. > > > > > > -John > > > > > > > hi john > > > > i made a new server patch, this time based on [tcpserver]. this one is > > also much cleaner than the old one. unfortunately it requires also > > [any2string] and [string2any] from pdstring from moocow. > > > > you'll find the patch (and also the older versions) on: > > > > http://www.netpd.org/server > > > > i am currently running this one on netpd.org and i am interested to see, > > whether it is possible to crash it or not. it would be good to have any > > feedback from you as well. > > > > roman > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de > > > > > > > > -- > John Harrison > http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison > ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de

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AVLAB 1.0 - Call for Collaborators
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

<International Project Development Workshop> Call for Collaborators AVLAB 1.0 In Medialab-Prado (Madrid / Spain), from September 17 through October 1, 2008 Submissions deadline: September 15, 2008 Medialab-Prado issues a call for all those interested in taking part in the AVLAB 1.0 collaborating in the development of the selected proposals. These ten projects aim to use open source hardware and software tools to create prototypes that explore the relation between sound and all those artistic practices where audio and image intersect. Submission Form and Call Guidelines: http://medialab-prado.es/article/taller_avlab_10_- _convocatoria_para_colaboradores Abstracts of selected Projects: http://medialab-prado.es/article/list_of_selected_projects Workshop general guidelines: http://medialab-prado.es/article/avlab_10 Go to AVLAB 1.0 forum and contact authors, teachers and other collaborators: http://forommm.intermediae.es/viewforum.php?id=11 In collaboration with EXPERIMENTACLUB 08 and the Centro para la Difusión de la Música Contemporánea. More information: www.medialab-prado.es ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic

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