Pd-list December 2008

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stereo vision
by Simon Kilshaw 29 Jan '09

29 Jan '09

Hey, I got myself a pair of anaglyph glasses (like you get at the cinema)- and managed to play around quite successfully with the stereo patch in gem examples (pd extended- Have to be green and red glasses (not the blue and red i think). Regards kilshaw Simon Kilshaw Lecturer in Music Technology RWCMD -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at on behalf of pd-list-request(a)iem.at Sent: Wed 8/27/2008 11:00 AM To: pd-list(a)iem.at Subject: Pd-list Digest, Vol 41, Issue 67 Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to pd-list(a)iem.at To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pd-list-request(a)iem.at You can reach the person managing the list at pd-list-owner(a)iem.at When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: textBox (like in MAX) (Hans-Christoph Steiner) 2. Re: flext/externals docs, svn + some new stuff! (Hans-Christoph Steiner) 3. Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd? ( Anton H?rnquist ) 4. Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd ( Anton H?rnquist ) 5. Re: Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd (Frank Barknecht) 6. Re: Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd? (Frank Barknecht) 7. stereo vision (olsen wolf) 8. Re: Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd? (Claude Heiland-Allen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:42:29 -0400 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> Subject: Re: [PD] textBox (like in MAX) To: marius schebella <marius.schebella(a)gmail.com> Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at, IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <0819D8CD-7522-436B-8255-1D6ED7317970(a)eds.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I've been working on [tkwidgets/text] but it's still a bit buggy. .hc On Aug 26, 2008, at 10:49 AM, marius schebella wrote: > you mean textfield? > [entry] is quite similar. comes with pdx. > marius. > > > Damien Henry - Voxler wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Is there a lib somewhere that provide to pd the textBox object >> from MAX ? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Damien >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:47:26 -0400 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> Subject: Re: [PD] flext/externals docs, svn + some new stuff! To: patrick <puredata(a)11h11.com> Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at, Thomas Grill <gr(a)grrrr.org> Message-ID: <BE6F0F90-20A9-4BF9-887D-9DC6B587F68A(a)eds.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am not really a fan of svn:externals and before we start using them a lot, we really need to look at the issues. Thomas' system has been working for years. If it ain't broke, don't fix it :). .hc On Aug 23, 2008, at 3:18 PM, patrick wrote: > hi, > > i think pd-dev people should remove externals/grill and like pdmtl / > gridflow checkout your svn. > it will avoid many questions about flext not being updated and such. > > but i can't checkout your svn. i think you need to permit anonymous > checkout. > pat > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:13:28 +0200 From: " Anton H?rnquist " <anton.hornquist(a)gmail.com> Subject: [PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd? To: pd-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <58a0928c0808270013r6c7fadedy2de1e8758961a9f5(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Here is a dll of Frank's moogladder~ v.02 compiled against pd 0.40_2 > The code should go in svn somewhere. > ( I replaced 2*M_PI in the code with TWO_PI to avoid a multiply > (compiler optimisation maybe does that already)). Thanks, Martin! Out of curiosity - what compiler did you use? I've never compiled externals on win xp but would like to learn how. Is it possible to use the free version of MS Developer Studio? Other alternatives? I'd like to try to make a stereo version of moogladder~ and also try tanh optimizations to reduce the cpu load. /Anton ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:18:38 +0200 From: " Anton H?rnquist " <anton.hornquist(a)gmail.com> Subject: [PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd To: pd-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <58a0928c0808270018w1fed3676tba57e9a7e741fbdf(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I now made a version where cutoff and resonance are signals. This > version is a bit more CPU intensive now, as some computations had to > move into the DSP loop to react to the changes in center frequency. Awesome! To my ears it sounds great - very close to the Csound-version. > I played a bit with a rational tanh approximation from the music-dsp > list but it didn't sound good anymore. If someone wants to play with > other approximations e.g. table lookup: Just change the function > "mytanh". Some optimizations are needed for reducing cpu load, true, I'll look into it. > The filter response gets nasty and loud if the center frequency is near > or above the sampling rate. Maybe it should be restricted as well. But > then, resonance at 1 will make everyone jump, too... Yeah I noticed that aswell. I think the Csound-version has cutoff restricted to 0...1, which is 0...11050 in hertz. Thanks again. /Anton ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:08:13 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> Subject: Re: [PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd To: pd-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <20080827080813.GA17886(a)footils.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hallo, Anton H?rnquist hat gesagt: // Anton H?rnquist wrote: > > The filter response gets nasty and loud if the center frequency is near > > or above the sampling rate. Maybe it should be restricted as well. But > > then, resonance at 1 will make everyone jump, too... > > Yeah I noticed that aswell. I think the Csound-version has cutoff > restricted to 0...1, which is 0...11050 in hertz. Only resonance is restricted to 0 and 1. It is in the pd version as well. I made some tests now and it seems it's not the cutoff frequency alone that makes the filter run wild. With resonance set to 0 a cutoff of 96kHz when running at SR = 48kHz doesn't go wild. But set resonance to 0.1 and it runs away. So in the end I'd say, just be careful and if in doubt [clip~] your input values. Another issue may be denormalization, so some PD_BIG_OR_SMALL checks could be useful. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:10:38 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> Subject: Re: [PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd? To: pd-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <20080827081038.GB17886(a)footils.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hallo, Martin Peach hat gesagt: // Martin Peach wrote: > Here is a dll of Frank's moogladder~ v.02 compiled against pd 0.40_2 > The code should go in svn somewhere. > ( I replaced 2*M_PI in the code with TWO_PI to avoid a multiply > (compiler optimisation maybe does that already)). Did you define that yourself? My math.h doesn't have TWO_PI ... Ciao -- Frank ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:29:51 +0200 From: "olsen wolf" <sesselastronaut(a)googlemail.com> Subject: [PD] stereo vision To: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <52bc3f2b0808270129o660c5c6dpf59ee6dbca989bca(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i posted this a few days ago i guess it didn't came through... > hi > i just got 2 logitech webcams at once running & started playing around with them. my curiosity is orbiting around computer stereo vision & construction of depth. is anyone > experienced with things like binocular disparity algorythm for stereo vision & might have some recommendations? as far as my nose dipped into research there's nothing within pds extensions?! > thanks for hints & salutis > olsen -- Planet Pluto bleibt! ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:48:56 +0100 From: Claude Heiland-Allen <claudiusmaximus(a)goto10.org> Subject: Re: [PD] Csound opcode Moogladder to Pd? To: PD-List <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <48B52308.60607(a)goto10.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Frank Barknecht wrote: >> ( I replaced 2*M_PI in the code with TWO_PI to avoid a multiply >> (compiler optimisation maybe does that already)). > > Did you define that yourself? My math.h doesn't have TWO_PI ... depending on compiler options, my math.h doesn't have M_PI ... http://c-faq.com/fp/mpi.html Claude ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Pd-list mailing list Pd-list(a)iem.at to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 41, Issue 67 *************************************** Royal Welsh College of Music & Drama Castle Grounds Cathays Park Cardiff CF10 3ER Royal Welsh College of Music & Drama Ltd A subsidiary of the University of Glamorgan Company registration 6013744, registered in England and Wales This e-mail is intended for the above named only, and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance upon the e-mail is prohibited, and may be unlawful. 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: PD sync with JACK (linux)
by Mysth-R 18 Jan '09

18 Jan '09

Hi, I am new on this list. I tried to find some informations about syncing PD and Jack transport/BPM in the archive list but I am not satisfied :D I am making an Audio sequencer with PD, and I would like to use it with other linux softwares (seq24, hydrogens, freewheeling,...). So I need to synchronise PD and Jack with MIDI or OSC; I saw on the archive list some module like midirealtimein but it doesn't seems to work for me. Only receive zeros. Today I am trying to use jack.tools, to synchronise with OSC (jack.osc). I can send /start /stop messages, but I don't understand how I can send transport informations, bpm ... Can you help me / give me some informations ? Thank you for your help cheers, Erwan -- {^_^} Mysth-R {^_^} http://myspace.com/mysthr http://myspace.com/aideauditive

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Artoolkit
by mark edward grimm 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Hello, I am just wondering if there has been any progress on Artoolkit (help-files, compiling on osx, etc.) the last thread on this I found was: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-05/062513.html and then the conversation seemed to end. And i still get this: >> error: [pix_artoolkit]: compiled without ARToolKit support! >> ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. When creating object. Is that supposed to be? Thanks! mark

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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, December 14th)
by Mike McGonagle 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

Well, any suggestions would be welcome. While I am not quite certain, I am pretty sure that we can still meet at the Red Line Tap, they just want to get a few more bodies in to buy a beer or two for the time we are there... The 18th is the third sunday... does that sound like a good day? Anyone have another date in mind? Mike On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Kyle Klipowicz <kyleklip(a)gmail.com> wrote: > So...Any word on a mid-January date for the Pd meetup in Chicago yet? > > ~Kyle > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Mike McGonagle <mjmogo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yes, the safe money is on that... no meeting tonight... >> >> Our latest plan is to shoot for mid January... >> >> Mike >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Anthony Curry >> <theonlyconstantisflux(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hey all, >> > >> > Hope this message finds you all happy and well. >> > >> > Is it safe to assume that we're NOT meeting at the Red Line Tap this >> > evening? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Anthony >> > theonlyconstantisflux(a)gmail.com >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything >> we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. >> —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician > > > > -- > ----- > ------------ > ---- ----- > ---- -------- - ------ > http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com > http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz > -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician

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Nice distortion
by Frank Barknecht 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Hallo, as a late xmas present attached is a nice and cheap distortion based on an allpass filter. The idea comes from a DAFx paper by Jussi Pekonen titled "Coefficient Modulated Allpass Filter as Distortion Effect". Sounds pretty cool if you play the demo samples from that paper's page at: http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~jpekonen/Papers/dafx08/ Ciao -- Frank Barknecht Do You RjDj.me? _ ______footils.org__

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Gem install problem on iBook G4
by ben baker-smith 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

I am having trouble installing pd-extended on my G4 iBook. I am running Mac OSX version 10.4.11. I have also tried running it on a macbook (intel) running 10.5 which I borrowed from a friend. I used the respective versions of the pd-extended download for each. I need to be able to run Gem which is why this is a problem. The basic version of PD seems to work fine, just not the extended libraries. I also tried downloading Gem separately and connecting it via the path menu, to no avail. This is weird for me as I've gotten pd-extended to work just fine on a G4 desktop and a macbook almost identical to the one I recently borrowed. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Here is the printout from the last time I started up PD: libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> compiled on Jul 29 2008 at 04:03:05 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin Reason: image not found Gem: can't load library libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'list-abs' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'memento' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pddp' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pixeltango' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'rradical' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'jmmmp' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin Reason: image not found pdp: can't load library /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin Reason: image not found pidip: can't load library /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/gem/gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/gem/gem.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin Reason: image not found gem: can't load library

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pix_video problem
by Jaime Oliver 30 Dec '08

30 Dec '08

Hello, I am trying out GEM ver: 0.91.0 'tigital' (the tarball says however 0.91.1 - from http://gem.iem.at/) and can't grab video using v4l and a hauppage camera grabbber. The same patch does however work using 0.91 cvs any ideas? J -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliverl(a)ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.42-0 test 08 released
by info＠timvets.net 30 Dec '08

30 Dec '08

Hi all, Pd 0.42-0 test 08 is out on the usual http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html and on subversion in SourceForge. I'm hoping to finalize it next weekend - bug reports welcome. cheers Miller Hi Miller and list, It would be nice to have the file-open, file-save, confirm-close etc..-windows pop up on top of the patcher windows in the default ubuntu window manager. (I tested just now on ubuntustudio hardy) also see "pd-linux/irritating dialog box location" discussion on this list. thanks! Tim

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pix_freeframe working in OS X?
by John Harrison 30 Dec '08

30 Dec '08

Hi I just filed a bug report with the Gem bug tracker on this, but I might have jumped the gun: does anybody have [pix_freeframe] working on OS X? For me pix_freeframe segfaults on OS X 10.4.11 with Pete Warden's freeframe plugins. (Untested with other freeframe plugins, but I would expect the same behavior). This is Pd-extended 0.40.3 nightly autobuild from Dec 27ish, 2008. Intel MacBook. Plugins were downloaded here: http://www.petewarden.com/PetesPlugins_Mac.zip And these were also tried (probably exactly the same): http://www.troikatronix.com/files/petes-plugins-ub.dmg With the current directory hierarchy of Pete's Plugins, pix_freeframe could not find the plugins. So the the plugin binaries were moved to be directly underneath its corresponding directory i.e. the wave binary (filename: wave) was moved from Wave.frf/Contents/MacOS/ to Wave.frf/ After moving the binaries, pix_freeframe went from not finding the plugins to crashing when the pix_freeframe object was created. pix_freeframe appears to work fine with these same plugins in Linux 32 bit (ubuntu 8.10). I haven't yet gotten the plugins to build successfully on Linux 64 bit to test. I found the Linux plugins here: http://www.mndl.hu/freeframe/petespluginslinux -John -- John Harrison http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison

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Re: [PD] pdp capture from built-in iSight on MacBook with os X
by Collin 30 Dec '08

30 Dec '08

I haven't done much video, but I have the same set up you have, and the iSight "just works," with [pdp_ieee1394] in example patches. The iSight is on the firewire bus, I guess. oops, it just crashed! Have fun! Collin > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:44:32 -0600 > From: "John Harrison" <johnharrisonwsu(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [PD] pdp capture from built-in iSight on MacBook with os X > 10.4.11? > To: PD-List <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: > <7aa995dd0812290644w1569d981qccb5bbbb4d20318b(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Running Pd-extended 0.40.3 on Intel MacBook os X 10.4.11. > [pdp_ieee1394] > captures video from firewire webcam no problem. Is there a way > however to > capture video from the built-in iSight camera using pdp on these > machines? I > know I could capture with Gem but am wondering if something might > exist > natively in pdp for this on OS X.

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