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Pixeltango on Linux
by Javier García 21 May '07

21 May '07

Hi, someone who uses Pixeltango on Linux? what release do you use? what i have to do to start? _________________________________________________________________ HorÃ³scopo, tarot, numerologÃa... Escucha lo que te dicen los astros. http://astrocentro.msn.es/

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fonts on GNU/Linux
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 21 May '07

21 May '07

Has anyone been able to get the DejaVu font to work with Pd-extended on GNU/Linux? I just switched the default font to Bitstream Vera, which comes with GNOME and maybe KDE. I can't get that to work either. I was just testing today on Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 and yesterday on Debian etch 4.0. (hint: the easy way to spot Bitstream Vera/DejaVu is the bottom of the lowercase l curves to the right in a big way). .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom

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Gem can´t find openGL libs compile (does the pope shit in the woods?)
by Ed Kelly 21 May '07

21 May '07

Sorry to have to bore you with a newbie-type compilation problem again! I am trying to install gem-0.90-0 on Fedora 6. I am getting bored with fedora, as you all seem to use Debian and there are lots of nice .deb s available (such as CaedesÅ½ pdp distros) but IÅ½l keep it brief... -lGL not found IÅ½ve installed MesaGL and Glut, first using yum (CCRMA) and then manually. No joy. Why? PS I hope I can join you all in Canada. IÅ½m pretty bored with the bugs IÅ½m dealing with, but I have some nice approaches to analogue modelling in the wings... Best, ed Lone Shark "Aviation" out now on http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com/process.php?pname=ShopfrontProcess-Start --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your freeaccount today.

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pd extended in ubuntu studio
by altern 21 May '07

21 May '07

hi i was wondering if it is ok to install this version of PD extended Ubuntu/Edgy/i386: Pd-0.39.2-extended-RC1-ubuntu-edgy-i386.tar.bz2 on Ubuntu Studio ... anyone tried? enrike

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Re: [PD] demo: pd - bluetooth - mobile phone
by Andy Farnell 21 May '07

21 May '07

Thanks Erich, this is informative , seems you've unleashed a very enabling interface. I cc the list to share your thoughts. > an orchestra of mobile phones controlled by a pd patch > ... you name it Straight from my worst nightmares :) > is to use http sockets on the phone > for data exchange between a microcontroller (connected > via BT to the phone) and the internet. Awesome possibilities. Thanks again, Andy On Mon, 21 May 2007 11:16:20 +0200 (CEST) Erich Berger <eb(a)randomseed.org> wrote: > hi andy, > > with python for S60 you have basically full control > over the functions of the phone. > audio, midi, speech, camera, sms, database, sockets (bluetooth, http), > etc, > http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Python_for_S60 > > i also have no application using it in combination with pd > but i m sure the knowledge of possibility comes in handy for > specific situations. you could: > - send an sms via pd > - upload/download data to the net if u have no wlan > - do something specific when you receive an sms > - have mobile phones playing along with your patch > - an orchestra of mobile phones controlled by a pd patch > ... you name it > > one of the most interesting things for me > at the moment is and that has nothing to do with pd > (but could ..) is to use http sockets on the phone > for data exchange between a microcontroller (connected > via BT to the phone) and the internet. as you are > independend of wlan and the phone network coverage > is meanwhile so well you have a very good base > technology for mobile artworks. > i use for this one: > http://www.realitydisfunction.org/heartdonor/ > > best > > erich > > ps: sorry - went slightly off topic > > > --------------------- > http://randomseed.org > > On Mon, 21 May 2007, Andy Farnell wrote: > > > > > Nice one Erich, > > > > Can you give some examples/applications of what you might > > be able to do with this. How much hackability has Symbian > > got through bluetooth using this? > > > > Cheers > > > > Andy > > > > > > On Mon, 21 May 2007 09:21:08 +0200 (CEST) > > Erich Berger <eb(a)randomseed.org> wrote: > > > >> hello, > >> > >> i posted a rough demonstration of how to connect > >> an arduinoBT board to a symbian based S60 mobile > >> phone here: > >> http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/SymbianS60Python > >> > >> with no changes (only put the right bluetooth address into the script) > >> the same python code can be used to connect the phone to a comport > >> object in pd (or any other software capable of opening a BT serial port). > >> > >> the python code is horrible but i hope some of you will improve it > >> and post it back for further use. > >> > >> best > >> > >> erich > >> --------------------- > >> http://randomseed.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > -- > > Use the source > > -- Use the source

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Re: [PD] demo: pd - bluetooth - mobile phone
by Erich Berger 21 May '07

21 May '07

hi andy, with python for S60 you have basically full control over the functions of the phone. audio, midi, speech, camera, sms, database, sockets (bluetooth, http), etc, http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Python_for_S60 i also have no application using it in combination with pd but i m sure the knowledge of possibility comes in handy for specific situations. you could: - send an sms via pd - upload/download data to the net if u have no wlan - do something specific when you receive an sms - have mobile phones playing along with your patch - an orchestra of mobile phones controlled by a pd patch ... you name it one of the most interesting things for me at the moment is and that has nothing to do with pd (but could ..) is to use http sockets on the phone for data exchange between a microcontroller (connected via BT to the phone) and the internet. as you are independend of wlan and the phone network coverage is meanwhile so well you have a very good base technology for mobile artworks. i use for this one: http://www.realitydisfunction.org/heartdonor/ best erich ps: sorry - went slightly off topic --------------------- http://randomseed.org On Mon, 21 May 2007, Andy Farnell wrote: > > Nice one Erich, > > Can you give some examples/applications of what you might > be able to do with this. How much hackability has Symbian > got through bluetooth using this? > > Cheers > > Andy > > > On Mon, 21 May 2007 09:21:08 +0200 (CEST) > Erich Berger <eb(a)randomseed.org> wrote: > >> hello, >> >> i posted a rough demonstration of how to connect >> an arduinoBT board to a symbian based S60 mobile >> phone here: >> http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/SymbianS60Python >> >> with no changes (only put the right bluetooth address into the script) >> the same python code can be used to connect the phone to a comport >> object in pd (or any other software capable of opening a BT serial port). >> >> the python code is horrible but i hope some of you will improve it >> and post it back for further use. >> >> best >> >> erich >> --------------------- >> http://randomseed.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > -- > Use the source >

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Switch and ramp and accurate timing
by Frank Barknecht 21 May '07

21 May '07

Hi, hm, unfortunately the "switch and ramp" technique is not usable for signals started from clock-delayed messages (as in [vline~]) because [snapshot~] is too slow to react. This actually is what I expected, but still: Does anyone have an idea, how to "declick" exponential envelope generators with arbitrary rise or fall? I mean, how to get rid of the clicks in attached patch but still get the (sub-)-sample accurate timing of [vline~] instead of the terrible sloppiness of [ead~]? Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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demo: pd - bluetooth - mobile phone
by Erich Berger 21 May '07

21 May '07

hello, i posted a rough demonstration of how to connect an arduinoBT board to a symbian based S60 mobile phone here: http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/SymbianS60Python with no changes (only put the right bluetooth address into the script) the same python code can be used to connect the phone to a comport object in pd (or any other software capable of opening a BT serial port). the python code is horrible but i hope some of you will improve it and post it back for further use. best erich --------------------- http://randomseed.org

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Re: [PD] Geo absolute position
by nosehair911＠bellsouth.net 21 May '07

21 May '07

Roman, Thanks for your help. Chris just clued me in on gemlist_info, check out the help file it looks like what we both have been looking for. Plus you can do as many transformations as you like and then put gemlist_info at the end of the chain to give you the absolute position, shear, size and orientation. But thanks for the abstactions you wrote, they will come in handy. Alain > > From: Roman Haefeli <reduzierer(a)yahoo.de> > Date: 2007/05/09 Wed AM 10:00:54 EDT > To: nosehair911(a)bellsouth.net > CC: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Geo absolute position > > hi alain > > because of the same problem, i wrote a small collection of vector > processing abstractions. instead of using several [translateXYZ] and > [rotateXYZ] objects in one chain, i decided to only use one > [translateXYZ] for the position of the geo and one [rotatateXYZ] for its > orientation. for calculating the the positions and orientations, i used > the abstractions, i mentioned above. it seems awkard to have to compute > all that stuff yourself, since there are object, that should make life > easier, but i din't find any better way to overcome that problem yet. > > you can find the abstractions here: > http://www.romanhaefeli.net/software/pd/vector_abs.tar.gz > > > On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 09:25 -0400, nosehair911(a)bellsouth.net wrote: > > I have been looking for this answer for a while now. In Gem, is there a way to get the absolute > > position of a geo after its been rotated, moved, rotated again, etc...? > > For example: > > > > [gemhead] > > | > > [translateXYZ 0 1 0] > > | > > [rotateXYZ 0 0 90] > > | > > [translateXYZ 1 0 0] > > | > > [circle 0.1] > > | > > [absolute position] > > i think, it would also be cool to not only know the position, but also > its orientation. further would it be usefull to have some > angel-to-vector conversion, so that an orientation given in angles would > be outputted as the three vectors rotated by these angles. > > roman > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Der frÃ¼he Vogel fÃ¤ngt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de > >

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paths (Re: simple external for video with Gem)
by Kyle Klipowicz 21 May '07

21 May '07

Yes, I understand this. But Enrike's abstractions has example files in the ehu_external folder, with a subdirectory called ehu which contained the abstractions and help files. So I was not meaning that the help files should have a namespace prefix, but rather the example files, since they would not load the abstractions otherwise (unless one were to change their startup path). I suggested that approach because explaining the startup path etc would take more time from learning basic Pd principles in his very short workshop. However, this seems like a bit of an unresolved issue at the moment. Why is it necessary to have a separate -helppath from the -path flag? Couldn't this be simpler to do by having the help path be the same as the path, and for the priority help file to be the one in the same directory as the abstraction/external in question? I guess this would just destroy the 5.reference directory, but couldn't it make startup flagging easier if we consolidated reference and objects? I see that in Pd-extended anyway, their structures are exactly the same. ~Kyle On 5/20/07, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote: > Hallo, > Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > > > But here is a suggestion: please reference your files using the > > namespace conventions a la [ehu/cam] etc. This makes it easier to use > > right from the extracted folder without altering paths. > > Sorry, I don't think, a directory-prefix must be used in the help-file > for an abstraction itself. > > Example: > > /mypath/footils/org.pd > /mypath/footils/org-help.pd > > If have /mypath in -path and -helppath, I can use both [footils/org] > and [org] in my helpfile org-help-pd > > However if I add /mypath/footils/ to -path and -help-path instead of > /mypath because "/mypath/footils" is my favourite library and I always > want to use it without directory prefix or importing, then the > helpfile cannot use [footils/org] anymore: "couldn't create". Of > course it can still use [org] like any other patch. > > Some ways out: > > * add a [declare -path ..] to all your help files (somehow ugly) > > * add a [import footils] to all your help files (less ugly, but also > less flexible because it creates a requirement for an external. > > * force users to "install" your abstractions by copying them to > somewhere in -path/-helppath (somehow unfriendly and uncomfortable > especially for quick testing and besides: /usr/lib/pd/extra on Linux > is read-only for normal users) > > * don't use directory-prefixes within the help-files. > > I chose to not use directory-prefixes in helpfiles, it's the most > simple approach, and simple is good IMO. > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO

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