Pd-list March 2007

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save as max patch
by marius schebella 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

hi list, I am missing the "save as max .pat" in the OSX savepanel. any possibility to access that feature on OSX? marius.

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Status of version 40...
by Mike McGonagle 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

Just curious, but is there a reason why the latest "extended" version is still using 39? Is there something different about 40 that prevents us from using it with the extended packages? It seems that there are more and more people who are creating patches that work only in 40, so I was just curious as to what the "upgrade" would entail, and what the "powers that control the extended versions" have as far as their vision of when this will start using 40... Thanks, (this is not to be skewed as a slight to anyone, everything is wonderful, I am just curious about how the "extended" cycles work). Mike M -- Help the Environment, Plant a Bush back in Texas! "I place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt." -- Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and author (1743-1826) "Give Peace a Chance" -- John Lennon (9 October 1940 – 8 December 1980) Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician

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.39.2 test7 pidip missing stuff-how to fix
by nosehair911＠bellsouth.net 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

I'm running pd .39.2 extended test7 on os x 10.4.8. When I look at the pdp or pidip examples they are all missing alot of stuff like [pdp_gain] [pdp_control] and more. I downloaded the pdp_pidip_osx.tar, if anyone can gide me on where to put it inside the PD application package I would really appreciate it. I would prefer to put it somewhere inside the actual application package and not in /usr/lib....etc. Thanks, Alain

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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] developer access ?
by Luigi Rensinghoff 02 Apr '07

02 Apr '07

> OK well then i wont upload it... its a little bit contradicting, since Frank said.. sourceforege is not for binaries...anyway, i am still waiting for a response from Hans-Christian, maybe then its solved. Otherwise i'll send people interested my gmx-mediacenter link that's the way it is Thanks anyway for your detailed answer webdavs.....that i didnt try Bye Luigi

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Re: [PD] RE : WII remote
by Jiri Heitlager | dadata.org 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

Thanks for the reply Patco. Ok, so to get things clear. To use the object I need to download wiiremote_b4 from this list. Then I need to install the developertools and do make install from the terminal. Is this then it, or is this to simple thought. Could somebody guide me through this? Jiri patco wrote: > Hi, > the problem is that wiimote needs a library for accessing the device, > even if the external is included into pd-extended, we'd still have to > install this lib, unless there is another solution? > > */"Jiri Heitlager | dadata.org" <jiri(a)z25.org>/* a écrit : > > I would like to use the Wiiremote and I found the wiiremote object on > this list, but because I dont have the developertools installed (and > considaring my very limited knowledge about UNIX systems i think it is > better that way) I cant compile the files. > Is there someway I could have acces to the [wiiremote] . Could I request > it to be included in the next release of Pd-extended releases, or is > that not possible? > > Jiri > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos > questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences > des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses > <http://fr.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42054/*http://fr.answers.yahoo.com>.

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Re: [PD] ann - usage/example - question
by info＠davidemorelli.it 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

> Would you think - or did someone already try it - that it > is possible to recognize certain "musical" patterns or > scales or phrases to trigger a special output and with > that change the preset. ann cannot work at audio rate, it would be way too intensive and you would miss the needed short-term-memory to recognize musical figures. you can use ann with FFT data and it should recognize timbres and notes pretty well. with ann_td you can try to make it recognize very simple, short and fast gestures but I haven't tried anything like that yet.. you'll need a lot of memory, maybe too much.. I used it with a webcam to recognize hand gestures or on MIDI notes or chords.. never on FFT data or even on audio data. ciao, davide.

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tabwrite~ broken?
by marius schebella 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

hi, does anyone else have problems with tabwrite~ on OSX? did not use it for a long time and just realized that my version doesnot write anything into arrays... maybe I am wrong, so anybody else having problems? marius.

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delwrite~ / delread~ also broken
by marius schebella 01 Apr '07

01 Apr '07

Hi, this is version version 0.39.2-extended-test7 on OSX 10.4.8 Intel. and it seems that also delwrite~ and delread~ are broken (and also vd~) I probably switch back to test6 now... marius.

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Re: [PD] boids2d, boids3d
by martin.peach＠sympatico.ca 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

> Do the points have an orientation? Some things > sound different depending on the direction they're > facing. > Each boid has a velocity in 2 or 3 dimensions, so yes. I just compiled the 2d version on WinXP, compiler complained about the line endings being Macintosh. I reformatted the file according to the pd guidlines using Unix line endings and spaces for tabs and c-style comments. I could commit my changes if nobody complains...I don't see in the source code that the messages aren't working. It may be the way they are implemented in the help file, they seem to be prefixed with semicolons there? Martin > > > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:19:25 -0400 > marius schebella <marius.schebella(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > short answer: you send position messages of an attraction point in space > > and then your boids object prints out positions of x flocks everytime > > you bang it. the positions are affected by the attraction point and > > neighboring flocks. (there is a bunch of settings for all that) > > marius. > > > > padawan12 wrote: > > > I'm interested in these. How do they work? > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 02:00:52 -0400 > > > marius schebella <marius.schebella(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> hi, > > >> accidentally I found two objects (boids2d and boids3d) which could be > > >> very nice tools, if only they were working. > > >> I have no idea who ported them to pd, but message input seems to be > > >> broken. Is someone working on them? > > >> (the objects simulate animal/birds and could be useful for grain > > >> synthesis or multi voice synthesis stuff) > > >> marius. > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: [PD] I can't create Gem objects
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

Javier García wrote: > IOhannes wrote: > >> a good start is to search for the missing files in your distro's package >> repository to find out which packages you must install. > > Hi IOhannes, > > I dont understand.. > > I think I just should install the packages i need for Gem, not all the > packages, or not? yes you are correct. however, Gem has a lot of dependencies (that is the main reason why i don't distribute linux binaries myself). so: when you try to load Gem, pd tells you that it cannot do so, because it cannot find a file (e.g. "libmpeg3.so.1"). this is because you are missing a certain library (e.g. libmpeg3) it can be rather hairy to find out, which package you need to get a certain file. since i do not know which packages you have installed and (as important) which packages are installed on the machine used to compile your binary for Gem and i do not know all packages myself (on my debian system i usually install ftgl-dev, libmagick++9-dev, libmpeg3-dev, libquicktime-dev, libavifile-dev and probably some others; and that's it; you won't need the -dev packages, but it should be ok to install the non-dev versions), i cannot give you a complete list. but i can try to show you a way: - where to get the information: -- you can ask for all missing files on the pd-list; eventually you will get an answer, but it is rather slow (response times of hours) -- you can search the information yourself; e.g. on http://packages.ubuntu.com there is a search-field for "search the contents of packages"; you just paste "libmpeg3.so.1" in this search field and lo-and-behold it gives you "libs/libmpeg3-1"; so install that! this should be far faster and efficient than asking the list. - how to optimize the search: -- you can do it incrementally (install libmpeg1 because libmpeg.so.0 is missing; relaunch pd with Gem; notice that now libmpeg3.so.1 is missing; install... and so forth) -- you can do it in batch-mode: first find out which files Gem needs to load; then install them to find out which files Gem depends on, locate the relevant Gem.pd_linux on your harddisk, and then run "ldd /path/to/your/Gem.pd_linux" (fix the path!); you have to search the package for each file that is "not found" and install it nfgas,dr IOhannes PS: in Gem there should be a README that says which libraries are needed for compilation; install these, that should cover most of the dependencies PPS: it would be far cooler to really have a .deb file with the correct dependencies; but somebody would have to do the work PPPS: reply to the list; others might have the same problems like you and will be thankful for the answers (in the archive)

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