Pd-list March 2007

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Re: [PD] Using a Wind Controller with PD
by paris＠parisgraphics.com 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi Malte, "chew" visuals? interesting. do you have any pics online of such a thing? thanks, p > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [PD] Using a Wind Controller with PD > From: Malte Steiner <steiner(a)block4.com> > Date: Wed, February 21, 2007 12:53 pm > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > > > Cool! I have some patches that I would like to create an "interface" > > with a WX5. Do you have anything like a prototype that you use to > > build these things? > I have to dig and can send it to you later but its not difficult nor > complex. The libsensor is build in the mouthpiece and can be played with > the libs, you can actually chew your sound (or in my case visuals). Its > just another datastream and adds to the expressiveness of the instrument. > > Cheers, later more... > > Malte > -- > Malte Steiner > media art + development > -www.block4.com- > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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strange behavior of splitfilename
by Matthias Blau 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi list, in the attached patch I supply a filename from savepanel to splitfilename. This works as expected *except* if I happen to choose "decay" as filename, in which case pd crashes. Any help? By the way, there doesn't seem to be a help file for splitfilename. Thanks, Matthias #N canvas 0 0 288 305 10; #X obj 63 138 savepanel; #X obj 63 111 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 63 171 splitfilename .; #X obj 63 199 print; #X obj 163 199 print; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 2 1 4 0;

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PDContainer complains about missing h_multiset_setup()
by Frank Barknecht 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi, I'm trying to install a new PDContainer, however while building goes fine, loading it makes Pd complain: /usr/lib/pd/externs/PDContainer.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd/externs/PDContainer.pd_linux: undefined symbol : _Z16h_multiset_setupv This symbol is: $ c++filt _Z16h_multiset_setupv h_multiset_setup() Any ideas? The source looks okay to my eyes. This is on Debian testing using g++ (GCC) 4.0.3. $ ldd /usr/lib/pd/externs/PDContainer.pd_linux linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7dc5000) libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0xb7da0000) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0xb7c6e000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7c63000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000) Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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pdp documentation?
by Matteo.sistisette 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi all, I\'d like to browse some documentation about PDP *before* I install and try it. I have installed and used linux a few times years ago, and I will soon do that again, but right now I am a poor window user. So, before I install linux and refresh myself about how to use it, and donwload pdp and find out how to compile it... Before all that, I would like to be able to learn a bit about pdp, get an idea of what it is and how it works etc. Some sort of introduction. On PDP\'s official (I guess?) page http://zwizwa.fartit.com/pd/pdp/doc/ I didn\'t find very much. Even the \"introduction\" paragraph is quite difficult to understand for someone that has no idea of what pdp is and what packet forth is... like me. Then it says: > A \'getting started\' documentation for pd/pdp/pidip is being worked on D\'oh! > Until then you can have a look at the \'pdp\' subdirectory in pd\'s \'Pure Documentation\' Where the hell is that? >From the FAQs of the puredata.org wiki: > the best documentation can only be viewed by running Pd. Click on the \"Pure Documentation\" menu item on the \"Help\" menu when you run Pd My PD (0.40.1) has no such menu item. It has a \"html\" menu item which links to the html documentation in the \\pd\\doc directory. Is that it? So I guess the \"pdp\" subdirectory mentioned above is one that will be installed into the pd/doc directory (of my coming-soon linux filesystem) once one installs pdp. But what the @#¿?, I\'m not going to install linux, learn it and download\'n\'compile pdp just to find out whether pdp is what I need or not... So, my question is. Can anybody suggest me where to find documentation about pdp that I can browse on-line or at least without becoming a linux hacker? Not necessarily a \"getting started\" guide (though that would be great), but something one can understand without already knowing how pdp works. Thank you in advance Bye M. -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Credi di essere più bravo di Lippi o Capello? Entra nel mondo dei nostri fantasy games! Vieni a giocare Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=6237&d=20070302

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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] Fwd: Request for dev access
by Georg Holzmann 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hallo! > Haha, please look at the first message in (or the subject of) this > thread... we have gone far off topic : ) that's true ... Please someone should add Luke ! > Finally, does anyone have any opinions on http://code.google.com as a > cantidate? It would perhaps lighten your load, IOhannes (in that you > wouldn't have to assemble the server at IEM). Sorry, I don't undestand this: google as a candidate for what ? for the SVN server (do they do that) ? LG Georg

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State Saving - Summary
by Luigi Rensinghoff 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Since it is an ever returning subject maybe its good to have a summarized topic for this. Could someone just give a list of existing "state-saving"-systems and describe pro's and con's and the state of complexity ? i think that could be very helpful for beginners ;-) Thanks Luigi

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Re: [PD] PD Workshop files
by Frank Barknecht 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hallo, jared hat gesagt: // jared wrote: > I downloaded the whole directory structure with wget ! > > Sorry, but what is wget? Where did you get it? > > Very nice workshop material - who made this ? > > Nicholas Ward Job Title:Part-time Lecturer (MScMM) > Qualifications: M.A. Music Technology, M.Sc. Multimedia Systems > e-mail: Nicholas dot Ward at cs.tcd.ie > > https://www.cs.tcd.ie/Nicholas.Ward/ Well, but the files included aren't all written by Nicholas Ward. This seems to be a collection of files and documents, that Nicholas found useful. But it includes stuff like the pmpd examples from CVS, the Gem-tutorial pdf by IOhannes etc. some files are by Derek Holzer, others by Aymeric Mansoux etc. But it's a nice selection. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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Re: [PD] newbie growing pains...
by Frank Barknecht 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hallo, jared hat gesagt: // jared wrote: > I'm having problems getting PD running comfortably. The easiest way, in > my opinion, for someone trying to learn PD is to open existing patches > that are similar, or use the same objects, as the patch they are trying > to build. I've been quite frustrated because it seems that most of the > patches that I open won't work on my system. This is obviously my > fault. I probably don't have files/patches/externals in their right > places. Not only probably, but for sure. Or maybe you have them, but you didn't tell Pd, where you have them with the File->Path rsp. File->Startup menu entries. If you try to run patches that cannot create certain objects, you should probably contact the patch author, who should know, what objects are in use. Most of the objects are in the CVS at sourceforge. Even if you don't plan to compile anything, I would recommend to get hold of a complete checkout of the CVS, because you could search the directories for missing objects. vasp for example is part of the CVS. > I think the biggest obstacle, for beginners, is getting PD > setup correctly and to get everything running smoothly. No offense, but IMO a beginner should first get comfortable with the builtin objects. Setting up plain Pd should be easy. As for example Andy's patches on obiwannabe.co.uk show, you can do amazing patches using no or just a small handful of externals. And then there are Miller's patches in doc/* that all run without any special setup required. If the builtin objects are known a bit, work up your way through some common collections of externals. I would recommend to start with zexy. Learn how to load a library and/or how to setup the search patch in Pd to find single externals. Zexy is very useful, well documented, available in pd-extended and also a good start when you happen to be interested in learning how to compile your own binaries of externals. Concentrating on first getting only one set of externals to run will teach you the basic principle of getting every external to run. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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Re: [PD] Lindenmayer system in pd / GEM
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2004-09/022550.html > > > This is the one. I chose that one, because like that: > >>#N canvas 0 0 445 503 10; >>#X obj 23 87 gemhead; >>#X obj 23 164 separator; >>#X obj 23 111 t a b; >>#X msg 120 152 seed 1; >>#X obj 23 328 translateXYZ; >>#X obj 23 353 circle 0.1; >>#X obj 23 57 gemwin; > > > with the reply ">"'s i was not able to get a running patch out of it. well, just strip the leading ">" with your favourite text editor ;-) anyhow, on the link given, there are several patches, all separated by the "-------------- next part --------------" unfortunately there are no hints as how each file should be called. luckily enought, frank posted them neatly zipped on: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-12/045052.html mfg.asdr IOhannes

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Re: [PD] a little pitchshifter
by robbert van hulzen 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

there's also G09.pitchshift.pd, which i've not looked at beyond simply triggering it. not fft but two playheads. drumloop timing is a bit messy and it looks different in construction than your patch (though i don't know what happens inside [susloop~]). i'm looking forward to getting on with miller's book and actually understand what this is all about... Thomas Mayer <thomas(a)dergrossebruder.org> wrote: > > The patch is just a little dirty hack with looping a 10 ms long sample > (or cutting off a bit when pitching down). It would be better to do that > with Fourier transformation, but I am too > stupid^H^H^H^H^H^H^inexperienced to do that in Pd ;)

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