Pd-list June 2006

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Can't even get started
by D J 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

Dear List, as a complete newbie, I am trying to take my first steps in PD. I have downloaded and installed it. Testtone.pd works fine. Then I've decided to run my HelloWorld. I've connected a HelloWorld message to a print object, and.... what happens next? Is there such a thing as "run"? Sorry for the naive sounding question, but I just don't see it do anything, so I think I'm missing the obvious, and I haven't found help for something as basic as this. Thank you for helping D

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extended 39.2 interface freezes on windows
by Florian Grond 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

Dear List, I'm actually working on an patch that should allow to switch between different preloaded samples in tables. They are further played back by a sampler that does several things like single shot sampling/looping different speed, reversed playback, and so on. So far everything works fine, except when I switch on audio the sliders and number boxes freeze. Although sliders do still respond in so far as they change the values, when moving with the mouse pointer over them. They do not indicate the changed value anymore. When I switch off audio they work again fine. I'm using windows XP and PD extended 39.2. Is is worth a try to downgrade to extended 38.x ? Thanks, Florian -- /////// / |< ||| | ZKM | Zentrum fuer Kunst und Medientechnologie /////// / |< ||| | ZKM | Centre d'Art et Media /////// / |< ||| | ZKM | Center for Art and Media LorenzstraÃe 19 D- 76135 Karlsruhe Tel: +49. 721. 8100-1002 Mob: +49. 177. 3099094 Fax: +49. 721. 8100-1709 www.grond.at

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data structures label
by João Miguel Pais 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

Is there any still hidden feature that allows labels in dataS to be displayed? Or letters in general? If not, how about taking this as suggestion to make one? Greets, Joao -- Lugostr. 14 79100 Freiburg i. Br. Deutschland +49 (0)761 7074997 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp

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gem_video tracking
by Mara Elsa Montoya 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

hello evrybody, I'm working with Pd-0.39.2-extended-test3 on OSX. I would like to track a flat (webcam). The idea is to -> render the GEM-window [raw video + effects] and save it as x.avi (or somehting, doesn't matter) Any inputs?? has someone an idea? gracias, */m -- _______________________________________________ http://mail.mexico.com ¡Disponible Ya! Utiliza el Outlook y Outlook Express para bajar tus correos por solo US$24.95 al año Now available! Download your mail into your computer with Outlook and Outlook Express US$24.95/yr

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nifty gizmo
by greg 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

http://monome.org Impressive video, runs OSC. $500 (ow!). Open source on the drivers and firmware but they don't say how to build it. Anyone seen this in the wild? Supposedly they're going to be shipping by two weeks ago. gkj

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Ripple-rectangle
by enrique franco 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Hi, Is it possible to give the Gem [ripple] object the dimension of a rectangle, say 4:3? Thanks -- Enrique Franco Telefono/Phone: +572 5552334 ext 389 Celular/mobile: +57 3112550263 Webpage: http://homepage.mac.com/rugitus/ http://193.1.99.6/~enrique/

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updated [hid] help
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

For some reason, the updated help file for [hid] didn't get included in Pd-0.39.2-extended-test4 so it is attached. It outlines the new opening logic, which should make it more likely that [hid] will find your device without manual intervention. .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope." -Edsger Dykstra

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[PD-announce] Call for artworks - INTERFACE and SOCIETY exhibition
by Erich Berger 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

---------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR ARTWORKS - please forward ---------------------------------------------------------------------- INTERFACE and SOCIETY a project by Atelier Nord http://anart.no exhibition Nov.10th - Nov.19th 2006 at Henie Onstad Kunstsenter Oslo Norway. http://anart.no/projects/interface-and-society/ Atelier Nord is looking for artworks/installations concerning the transformation of our everyday live through electronic interfaces (see details below). APPLICATION DEADLINE 1st July 2006. Please apply via email to sense(a)anart.no subject: INTERFACE and SOCIETY exhibition with the following information: 1) Project name / year of production 2) Artist name(s) + email / contact information 3) Short project description 4) Project URL + URL for online documentation (pdf, pictures, video) 5) Short CV Alternatively you can send the requested information via snailmail to: Atelier Nord Lakkegata 55 D N-0187 Oslo Norway ad: INTERFACE and SOCIETY exhibition ---------------------------------------------------------------------- INTERFACE and SOCIETY In our everyday life we constantly have to cope more or less successfully with interfaces. We use the mobile phone, the mp3 player, and our laptop, in order to gain access to the digital part of our life. In recent years this situation has lead to the creation of new interdisciplinary subjects like "Interaction Design" or "Physical Computing". We live between two worlds, our physical environment and the digital space. Technology and its digital space are our second nature and the interfaces are our points of access to this technosphere. Since artists started working with technology they have been developing interfaces and modes of interaction. The interface itself became an artistic thematic. The project INTERFACE and SOCIETY investigates how artists deal with the transformation of our everyday life through technical interfaces. With the rapid technological development a thoroughly critique of the interface towards society is necessary. The role of the artist is thereby crucial. S/he has the freedom to deal with technologies and interfaces beyond functionality and usability. The project INTERFACE and SOCIETY is looking at this development with a special focus on the artistic contribution. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- INTERFACE and SOCIETY is an umbrella for a range of activities throughout 2006 at Atelier Nord in Oslo. Read more at: http://anart.no/projects/interface-and-society/ _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[hid] testing WAS Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test4 with [hid]/Mac OS X and creb updates
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Hey, I am cc'ing the list since it might be of general interest. I am looking for all kinds of feedback, from bugs (i.e. whether it crashes, odd behavior, missing elements, etc.) But also ideas how best to handle the massive variety of devices. A number of the parts of the design of [hid] are due to change a lot with the new [human- >pd] object I am working on. .hc On Jun 1, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Niklas Saers wrote: > Hi Hans, > what kind of feedback do you need? I'm running OS X and have a > dance mat that I've been using much with Max/MSP lately so I'll > download it and give it a whirl. Any special things I should look > for and get back to you with? > > Cheers > > Nik > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >> >> Another test build with random fixes, and a couple key ones: >> >> - big updates to [hid] on Mac OS X (Windows and GNU/Linux coming >> soon) >> - all of the creb C objects included on all platforms >> >> I am especially interested in feedback on the [hid] for Mac OS X. >> After this, there will be no more updates to [hid], instead I will >> move all the code to a new name, and start making incompatible >> changes to solve some key issues. >> >> .hc >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _______ >> >> I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and >> during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle >> man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. >> - General Smedley Butler >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-announce mailing list >> PD-announce(a)iem.at >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> ________________________________________________________________________ ____ If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. - Eldridge Cleaver

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test4 with [hid]/Mac OS X and creb updates
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

We should keep this on the list since its probably of general interest. On May 31, 2006, at 8:01 PM, patco wrote: > hello, I tested Pd-0.39.2-extended-test4 for win32 and tested many > objects, > > all the errors are logged into attached file too. > > patco. First off, I have to say that a number of these libraries seem to have no active maintainer, like cxc, ext13 randomix, mjLib, motex, and smlib. So if you want those bugs fixed, you'll probably have to fix them yourself. Also, for other libs, you should probably submit bugs about those specific libs. > > creb/ > > couldn't create: biquadseries~, blosc~, > bmatrix~,clog~ ,filterortho~ (missing dll) > > matrix~ : > error (miXed): bad creation arguments for class 'matrix~' > missing number of inlets > matrix~ > ... couldn't create > > > cxc/ > > cxc.prepend: > load_object: Symbol "cxc.prepend_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_cxc0x2eprepend" not found > error: cxc.prepend: can't load abstraction within itself Try [cxc/prepend] > > cxc.split: > load_object: Symbol "cxc.split_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_cxc0x2esplit" not found > error: cxc.split: can't load abstraction within itself > > statistics: > > cx.mean blir > ... couldn't create > load_object: Symbol "histo_setup" not found > histo > ... couldn't create > cx.avgdev blir > ... couldn't create > cx.stddev blir > ... couldn't create > > randomix: > random1~ > ... couldn't create > random_fl~ > ... couldn't create > random_icg~ > ... couldn't create > > > cyclone/ > > buddy, funnel, prob, pv, substitute, universal, and zl are closing > suddenly > > puredata. > > > ext13/ > > load_object: Symbol "send13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_send130x7e" not found > > load_object: Symbol "receive13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_receive130x7e" not found > > load_object: Symbol "openpatch_setup" not found > > load_object: Symbol "streamin13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_streamin130x7e" not found > > load_object: Symbol "catch13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_catch130x7e" not found > > > load_object: Symbol "throw13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_throw130x7e" not found > > > load_object: Symbol "cdplayer_setup" not found > > > > Gem/ > > gemorb: > gemtablet: > glsl_program: > glsl_vertex: > glsl_fragment: > part_sink: > pix_fiducialtrack: > pix_indycam: > pix_sig2pix~: > pix_threshold_bernsen: > pqtorusknots: can't load abstraction within itself > > pix_dot is crashing pd > > > ggee/ > > sliderh: > sfread~: missing dll > shell:Symbol "shell_setup" not found Won't work on Windows. > toddle: couldn't create > > maxlib/ > > borax: Symbol "borax_setup" not found (we can use cyclone/Borax > instead) > > > > mjlib/ > > prob closes suddenly pd > > > motex/ > > strconcat .wav > ... couldn't create > strconcat > ... couldn't create > getenv: Environment variable does not exist > > > nqpoly4, nqpoly~, nusmuk abstractions couldn't be created (pdsettings > > problem?) You have to copy the nqpoly files into the same folder as the project that you want to use it in. It says that somewhere in the documentation... .hc > > > pixeltango still crashes pd > > > pmpd~ closes suddenly pd > > > rradical/ > > rrad.pattseq-help crashes pd > rrad.split~-help crashes pd > > > smlib/ > > vv+ > ... couldn't create > vv- > ... couldn't create > > toxy/ > > objects aren't loaded from pd/extra/toxy folder, > if I copy them into extra, it crashes pd > > > unauthorized/ > > objects aren't loaded from pd/extra/unauthorized folder > > > vasp/ > > objects aren't loaded from pd/extra/vasp folder > > > > Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et > son interface révolutionnaire. > couldn't create: > > creb/ > > biquadseries~, blosc~, bmatrix~,clog~ ,filterortho~ (missing dll) > > matrix~ : > error (miXed): bad creation arguments for class 'matrix~' > missing number of inlets > matrix~ > ... couldn't create > > > cxc/ > > cxc.prepend: > load_object: Symbol "cxc.prepend_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_cxc0x2eprepend" not found > error: cxc.prepend: can't load abstraction within itself > > cxc.split: > load_object: Symbol "cxc.split_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_cxc0x2esplit" not found > error: cxc.split: can't load abstraction within itself > > statistics: > > cx.mean blir > ... couldn't create > load_object: Symbol "histo_setup" not found > histo > ... couldn't create > cx.avgdev blir > ... couldn't create > cx.stddev blir > ... couldn't create > > randomix: > random1~ > ... couldn't create > random_fl~ > ... couldn't create > random_icg~ > ... couldn't create > > > cyclone/ > > buddy, funnel, prob, pv, substitute, universal, and zl are closing > suddenly puredata. > > > ext13/ > > load_object: Symbol "send13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_send130x7e" not found > > load_object: Symbol "receive13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_receive130x7e" not found > > load_object: Symbol "openpatch_setup" not found > > load_object: Symbol "streamin13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_streamin130x7e" not found > > load_object: Symbol "catch13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_catch130x7e" not found > > > load_object: Symbol "throw13_tilde_setup" not found > load_object: Symbol "setup_throw130x7e" not found > > > load_object: Symbol "cdplayer_setup" not found > > > > Gem/ > > gemorb: > gemtablet: > glsl_program: > glsl_vertex: > glsl_fragment: > part_sink: > pix_fiducialtrack: > pix_indycam: > pix_sig2pix~: > pix_threshold_bernsen: > pqtorusknots: can't load abstraction within itself > > pix_dot is crashing pd > > > ggee/ > > sliderh: > sfread~: missing dll > shell:Symbol "shell_setup" not found > toddle: couldn't create > > maxlib/ > > borax: Symbol "borax_setup" not found (we can use cyclone/Borax > instead) > > > > mjlib/ > > prob closes suddenly pd > > > motex/ > > strconcat .wav > ... couldn't create > strconcat > ... couldn't create > getenv: Environment variable does not exist > > > nqpoly4, nqpoly~, nusmuk abstractions couldn't be created > (pdsettings problem?) > > > pixeltango still crashes pd > > > pmpd~ closes suddenly pd > > > rradical/ > > rrad.pattseq-help crashes pd > rrad.split~-help crashes pd > > > smlib/ > > vv+ > ... couldn't create > vv- > ... couldn't create > > toxy/ > > objects aren't loaded from pd/extra/toxy folder, crashes pd > > > unauthorized/ > > objects aren't loaded from pd/extra/unauthorized folder > > > vasp/ > > objects aren't loaded from pd/extra/vasp folder > ________________________________________________________________________ ____ http://at.or.at/hans/

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Pd-list June 2006