Pd-list March 2006

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Data Structures Tutorial (english version)
by Gregorio G. Karman 27 Mar '06

27 Mar '06

Hi list, Juan Aboites has kindly translated my tutorial on data structures. I uploaded the file to my puredata account in: http://puredata.org/Members/ggkarman/Tutoriales/datastruct_en_02 Thanks Juan! enjoy greg.

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[folder_list] for GNU/Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows
by Hans Steiner 27 Mar '06

27 Mar '06

Ok, it works more or less the same on all platforms now. Seems pretty good, needs some minor tweaks. http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html .hc

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audio with pix_movie
by yukio kuroiwa 27 Mar '06

27 Mar '06

hi list, is there any way of getting audio of mov movies in gem using pix_movie? im on pd 0.38 extended... bye yuki -- yukio kuroiwa yukio_kuroiwa(a)fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin

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Re: [PD] pd~conf 2.0
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 27 Mar '06

27 Mar '06

On Mar 26, 2006, at 1:55 PM, CK wrote: > re hans, > > I read: >> The problem in the U.S. is that there are very few grants for this >> kind of thing, so it would probably be hard to get grants to fund >> everyone's travel and hotels like the IEM folks did so amazingly. > > but it's relatively easy to ask various european embassies or cultural > forums etc. to fund travel/accommodation/per diem expenses for invited > speakers/artists. > > Probably the people would have to care for that themselves, using some > sort of official invitation but it should at least work out for some. That sounds like a workable thing, tho not ideal. Which leads to the question: is it worth having a pd~conf if we can't fund people to come? I can provide right now free space, theatre, 9-screen playpen, and a little grant money, as well as housing for US$30-35 a night (which is dirt cheap for NYC). Maybe we could do a small one in Brooklyn this August, then work towards the big one in Montreal next year. Maybe we could get the Austrian Cultural Forum involved, and bill it as some kind of Austria-U.S. collaboration. FYI: the ACF a New York- based thing that is tied to the Austrian tourism board. They seem to have a lot of money. Anyone know anyone there? I just found out that City Tech, which is a university that is literally across the street from Polytechnic, has a very nice theatre which is available, maybe for free. They have a Entertainment and Theatre Tech dept. and that theatre is their lab. But it'll be hard to live up to the IEM sound cube. .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers

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[folder_list]
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

This object is the equivalent of the UNIX command "ls -d1A". It basically gives you a listing of files based on a "glob" pattern, like "*.*", "/tmp/?", etc. This is the first step for building out a full library of file objects. Its in CVS in externals/hcs. It builds with "cd externals/ && make buildsrc", then it'll be in externals/build/src along with everything else. (of course, it'll be included in Pd-extended ;) .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "Information wants to be free." -Stewart Brand

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32bit integer float
by Enrique Erne 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

dear list I know pd is working with 32bit floats. 1.question 1.4 - int(1.4) = something like 0.39999999999999999999999999999 is this the way pd calculate? 2.question is there a way to check the result with [== 0.4] which outputs 1? 3.question is 0.4 in [== 0.4] a 32bit float? thank you and have a nice weekend! eni

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[OT] On Nothing & Lambda-Itter / J. M. Berenguer & J. Rigler
by jose manuel berenguer alarcon 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

Nous sons. Festival de musica contemporania L'Auditori de Barcelona. Sala polivalent. Lepant, 150 - 08013 Barcelona Concert - Concierto - Concert. J. M. Berenguer & J. Rigler Dissabte - Sabado - Saturday . 01/04/2006 . 21:00 i. On nothing . Musica electroacustica - Musica electroacustica - Electroacoustic music Jose Manuel Berenguer, So i imatges electroniques - Sonido e imagenes electronicas - Electronic sound and images ii. Lambda-Itter . Improvisacio electroacustica - Improvisacion electroacustica - Electroacoustic improvisation Jane Rigler, Flauta - Flauta - Flute Jose Manuel Berenguer, So i imatges electroniques - Sonido e imagenes electronicas - Electronic sound and images

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Re: [Pd] Messages to windows
by Chuckk Hubbard 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

> >> "print" makes it send its size to the Pd window, but I'm wondering if > >> Pd itself can tell. > > > > sorry, I meant the external arraysize. if you can't find it I can > > send it directly > > > > [arraysize] is in Pd-extended. > > (I sound like a broken record, don't I? ;) > > .hc After my composition jury in May, I hope to have time to experiment with the version of pd used in Pd-extended, and fill out any necessary bug reports. As of now, it drew my patch strangely and I don't quite trust it. It's a great idea and could save people lots of trouble, but it's nice when externals are still available individually. -Chuckk

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RE: [PD] Re: [PD-dev] We've got to undo the MIDI revolution! - Where isOSC?!
by Patrick Pagano 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

on this note could someone post some examples of using OSC properly? If possible soem simple examples of OSC coming from maybe Supercollider3 to control Gem? Vice versa? I would love to explore it some more. cheers~ Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2082 -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at]On Behalf Of Hans-Christoph Steiner Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:36 PM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] Re: [PD-dev] We've got to undo the MIDI revolution! - Where isOSC?! The OSC objects are included in the Pd-extended builds for Windows, Mac OS X and GNU/Linux. .hc SourceForge.net wrote: > Feature Requests item #1447808, was opened at 2006-03-11 02:09 > Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter > You can respond by visiting: > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=1447808&group_… > > Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, > including the initial issue submission, for this request, > not just the latest update. > Category: puredata > Group: None > Status: Open > Priority: 5 > Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) > Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) > Summary: We've got to undo the MIDI revolution! - Where is OSC?! > > Initial Comment: > 'We've got to undo the MIDI revolution! > Miller S. Puckette' > > > This is all very well, however it seems OSC support is > somewhat limited for Windows systems, insofar as I > cannot find anywhere to download OSC externals for > windows...the link from the main page has been down > for some months now. > > Is there anywhere I can get OSC externals for Windows? > > Robin > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can respond by visiting: > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478073&aid=1447808&group_… > > _______________________________________________ > PD-dev mailing list > PD-dev(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: [PD] tabread / write broken on 64bit AMD Linux
by Paris Treantafeles 26 Mar '06

26 Mar '06

Hi Patco and IOhannes, Thanks for the chroot info. I think that's the way to go - I was concerned about having mixed up libraries. Best, p On Mar 25, 2006, at 4:35 PM, patco wrote: > Hello, with using chroot32 you don't have to use another partition > or another system, you just > need a linux distro that allows "chrooting" > patco > > --- Paris Treantafeles <paris(a)parisgraphics.com> a écrit : > >> Hi Miller and List, >> >> I can't resist asking (sorry if this is beating a dead horse) but... >> I'm seriously considering building an AMD64 box for other purposes >> (e.g. cinelerra). >> Given that, would it make sense to have two partitions? >> One running Linux 64 bit (when using cinelerra) and the other a Linux >> 32 bit for Pd, Gem, etc.? >> Or are the concerns expressed below based on the processor more than >> the OS? >> >> Thanks, >> p >> >> On Mar 25, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: >> >>> The bad thing about 64 bit computing is that 64-bit programs tend to >>> use more memory bandwidth than 32-bit ones, so that you would expect >>> a processor to spend more time waiting for memory in 64 bit mode >>> than >>> 32. This could easily outweigh the register-count advantage of >>> AMD64 >>> in running Pd. I'm planning to get an AMD64 box in another month >>> or so >>> and should know more then... given the high prices of 64 bit >>> machines, >>> it might be smary to wait until we can get an actual speed >>> comparison >>> before spending the dough. >>> >>> cheers >>> Miller >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 07:59:24AM +0000, carmen wrote: >>>>> Well, I was going to do it, but we figured out that 64-bit wasn't >>>>> worth >>>>> the trouble yet. It's not that much worth it until standard PCs >>>>> ship with >>>>> well over 4G RAM. >>>> >>>> Ron Kuper sez 'no'... http://www.cakewalk.com/x64/whitepaper.asp >>>> >>>> " the CPU has twice the general purpose registers and twice the >>>> floating point unit (FPU) registers, compared to x86 processors. >>>> And each general purpose register is also twice as wide, 64 bits >>>> instead of 32 bits." >>>> >>>> "For a specific example of why this matters, consider a digital >>>> equalizer. The math involved in computing equalization usually >>>> involves a processing element known as a "biquad". A biquad is a >>>> small code fragment that manipulates 8 numeric values in a series >>>> of additions and multiplications. The x86 floating point unit has >>>> a total of 8 registers, so even something as simple as 1 biquad >>>> will use up all of its registers. " >>>> >>>>> Apparently there are other advantages to the 64-bit >>>>> mode, but I've not witnessed any difference with the programs >>>>> that I use. >>>>> And then many programs' RAM usage might nearly double, especially >>>>> programs >>>>> that use lots of pointers >>>> >>>> it is almost 2x, from what i recall, but having finally replaced >>>> the last Celeron here with a Sempron64, i can't double check.. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>>> listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _____ > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez > les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. > Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com

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