Pd-list January 2006

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PiDiP troubles: libMagick 6.1.8 does not have XWindowByProperty
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

It seems that PiDiP was written for libMagick 5, and now with libMagick 6.1.8, there no longer is a XWindowByProperty() function. So PiDiP doesn't compile on Mac OS X with Fink libs. Any chance of this getting updated? .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism." - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom

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rtp streaming
by rainer kohlberger 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

hello, anybody knows if there is a way to stream video to VLC/etc. (RTP- broadcast) out of pd? maybe with pdp_ffmpeg~ ? thx, rainer.

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Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC7
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Unless there is something very wrong with this release, this will be the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as Pd-0.38.4-extended. http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Its actually looking pretty good, maybe not even beta anymore ;) .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDzeAhN4PEFRUrWIsRAv4aAJ9Ihi8UlNFzCEH+rMh4ejx5EKPmUQCgwCEj 1+5MoYGDCHPaNAHU7a4Oi0U= =zeMq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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spectral delay
by Orm Finnendahl 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

Hi everyone, Johannes Kreidler and me did a spectral delay patch as an instructional example for fft processing in pd. It's done in a similar manner as the example patches from Miller in the distribution. we would like to do something similar for pitch shifting (being able to detune each bin individually as in freqtweak) but that's less trivial. Has anybody done something like that (maybe even with phase correction etc.)? I saw Miller's phase vocoder patch, but that's time scale only, isn't it? Maybe you can give me some hints. I know something like that exists within fftease, but it's not about getting it done, but rather about "how can you do that using pd primitives" (it's about sports folks ;-) Have fun! -- Orm

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:::: NIU ACTiViTiES :: RBF-soft. presents VIFE _alpha v.01 ::::
by RBF-soft.[producing] rodri_DJ & ivan_VJ 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

:: ENGLISH :: David & IvÃ¡n RodrÃguez are RBF-soft. [producing], an electronic artists formation. Two brothers mix design, art & technology to create innovation & interactive proposals. Rodri_DJ & ivan_VJ are the creators of VIFE _alpha v.01 [Virtual Interface to Feel Emotions]. This work has been showed at METRÃNOM, at the international NIME'05 festival (New Interfaces for Musical Expressions) at Vancouver Â Canada and at SONAR2005 - Barcelona. The work investigates the idea of Synaesthesia and her enormous possibilities creating new realities, sensations and zones, where the user can find new points of interaction. This interface allows the performer to create sonorous and visual compositions in real time. 6 three-dimensional forms that represent sonorous objects are modified with the movements of the performer. Multiple combinations of colours, transformations and sonorous effects are mixing to create a unique experience. For this work we have created the software that controls all sensors and the hardware used by the performer. VIFE _glove is a sensorial glove controlled by the performer, this glove have full of sensors and allow the manipulation of the 3D forms. R-CUBE IV is an analysing box that analyse the stimulus of the sensors and send the information to the computers. VIFE _alpha v.01 is controlled by 2 computers at the same time, one computer control the movements of the performer and the other make the render and reproduce the audio applying the effects. RBF-soft [producing] creates interactive installations, performances, audiovisual lives, design, electronic music sessions, visuals and interactive solutions on demand. If you want to know more about us, please visit our website. http://www.rbf-soft.com rbf_soft(a)hotmail.com :: CATALÃ :: David i IvÃ¡n RodrÃguez sÃ³n RBF-soft. [producing], una formaciÃ³ d'artistas electrÃ²nics. Aquests dos germans fussionan disseny, art i tecnologia per crear propostes interactives i innovadores. Rodri_DJ & ivan_VJ sÃ³n els creadors de VIFE _alpha v.01 [Virtual Interface to Feel Emotions], un Interface Virtual per sentir emocions. Aquesta obra ha estat mostrada a METRÃNOM, al festival internacional NIME'05 (New Interfaces for Musical Expressions) a Vancouver - Canada i al SONAR2005 a Barcelona. La obra investiga la idea de la Synaesthesia i les seves enormes posibilitats creant noves realitats, sensacions i zones on l'ussuari pot trobar nous punts d'interacciÃ³. Aquest interface permet al performer crear composicions sonores i visuals en temps real. 6 formes tridimensionals sonores son modificades segons els moviments del performer. Aquestes formes representen objectes sonors. Multiples combinacions de colors, transformacions i efectes sonors es superponen les unes a les altres per crear una experiencia unica. Per aquesta obra s'ha creat el software que controla tots els sensors i el hardware que utilitza el performer. VIFE _glove Ã©s un gÃ¼Ã sensorial que controla el performer, estÃ¡ plÃ¨ de sensors i permet manipular les formes 3D. R-CUBE IV Ã©s una capsa que analitza els estimuls dels sensors i envia la informaciÃ³ als ordinadors. VIFE _alpha v.01 Ã©s controlat per 2 ordinadors al mateix temps, un controla el que far el performer i l'altre renderitza i reprodueix el sÃ³ aplicant els efectes. RBF-soft. [producing] realitza instalÂlacions interactives, performances, shows audiovisuals, disseny, sesions de mÃºsica electrÃ²nica, visuals i solucions interactives a mida. Si vols saber mÃ©s sobre aquests germans electrÃ²nics pots visitar la seva web. http://www.rbf-soft.com rbf_soft(a)hotmail.com :: CASTELLANO :: David e IvÃ¡n RodrÃguez sÃ³n RBF-soft. [producing], una formaciÃ³n de artistas electrÃ³nicos. Estos dos hermanos fusionan diseÃ±o, arte y tecnologia para crear propuestas interactivas e innovadoras. Rodri_DJ & ivan_VJ son los creadores de VIFE _alpha v.01 [Virtual Interface to Feel Emotions], un Interface Virtual para sentir emociones. Esta obra ha sido mostrada en METRÃNOM, en el festival internacional NIME'05 (New Interfaces for Musical Expressions) en Vancouver - Canada y en SONAR2005 en Barcelona. La obra investiga la idea de la Synaesthesia y sus enormes posibilidades creando nuevas realidades, sensaciones y zonas donde el usuario puede encontrar nuevos puntos de interacciÃ³n. Este interface permite al performer crear composiciones sonoras y visuales en tiempo real. 6 formas tridimensionales sonoras son modificadas segÃºn los movimientos del performer. Estas formas representan objetos sonoros. MÃºltiples combinaciones de colores, transformacions y efectos sonoros se superponen los unos a los otros para crear una experiencia Ãºnica. Para esta obra se ha creado el software que controla todos los sensores y el hardware que utiliza el performer. VIFE _glove es un guante sensorial que controla el performer, esta lleno de sensores y permite manipular las formas 3D. R CUBE-IV es una caja que analiza los estÃmulos de los sensores y envÃa la informaciÃ³n a los ordenadores. VIFE _alpha v.01 es controlado por 2 ordenadores al mismo tiempo, uno controla lo que hace el performer y el otro renderiza y reproduce el sonido aplicando los efectos. RBF-soft. [producing] realiza instalaciones interactivas, performances, shows audiovisuales, diseÃ±o, sesiones de mÃºsica electrÃ³nica, visuales y soluciones interactivas a medida. Si quieres saber mÃ¡s sobre estos hermanos electrÃ³nicos puedes visitar su web. http://www.rbf-soft.com rbf_soft(a)hotmail.com

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Re: [PD-announce] clr: externals in CLR assemblies
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 21 Jan '06

21 Jan '06

This is great. I am assuming that you are using the new loader functionality from Thomas. Would it be possible if you could put up some notes about what you did? It'll help others like me write other loaders. .hc On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Davide Morelli wrote: > > hello! > > [clr] is an external that lets you create externals using clr > languages (C#, vb.net, ruby.net, dotLisp, etc..), it embeds mono. > > you can find it in > /externals/clr > > At the moment it can only receive and send bangs, floats, symbols and > lists. ASAP I'll add support for pointers, signals and Gem. Also many > important functions are not present (things like timer callbacks > etc..) > > I've tested it on winXp and osx 10.3 but i'm pretty sure it will work > on linux too. > I need help writing makefiles, defining dependancies and testing. > I will soon build binary packages. > It is possible to build binary packages including mono and all the GAC > so the "end-user" won't need to install mono to use [clr] and the > externals needing it > > requirements: > * mono installed > * glib, gthread, iconv in path (they should be inside mono as well) > > what you need to do to compile it: > * edit PATHs in the makefile so the compiler can find mono, glib, > gthread, etc... > > to write an external you need to: > * in the pd folder compile pd.cs and Atom.cs into PureData.dll > * use the PureData namespace > * add PureData.dll to the references > * declare an "private intPtr x" variable > * declare a "void SetUp()" function and put there inlet, outlet and > selectors creation > (see the external folder for a couple of examples) > > ----------- > > features: > * you can write externals in any clr language (C#, managed C++, J#, > Jscript.Net, PerlNET, Ruby, Scheme, VB.NET, dotLisp and a lot more.. ) > * use bangs, symbols, lists (both in and out) > * declare inlets, outlets, selectors > * use initialization arguments > * multi-instance > * compile many externals into one single .dll file > * extend an external including its assembly instead of modifying its > source code > * you can compile the external using whichever clr compiler you like > most > * assemblies are "cross-platform" (a single .dll file for all > platforms) > > what is missing: > * support for signals, Gem, graphical externals > * many callback functions like timers etc.. > * there may be threading issues > * testing, testing, testing! > > -------------- > > detailed implementation notes, (future) binary pakages here: > http://www.davidemorelli.it/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=csharp:csharp > > PS. many thanks to Thomas Grill for his help! > > Ciao, > Davide Morelli > www.davidemorelli.it > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-announce mailing list > PD-announce(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > ________________________________________________________________________ ____ Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams

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Re: [PD] sound not working
by robertgarvin＠bellsouth.net 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

oh, right. sorry bout that. OS: WinXP pro, SP2, pentium 4 - 2.80GHz / 2.79GHz, 512 MB ram Soundcard: not sure on this one, but i believe it's "SigmaTel C-Major Audio" Version of PD: Pd version 0.38.0 it's kind of a funny situation though, because it was working fine earlier that day. all other system sounds still work, so I don't know what's up THanks, RG -----Original Message----- From: patrick [mailto:patrick@11h11.com] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:58 AM To: robertgarvin(a)bellsouth.net hello, you should tell us more information about your OS and your soundcard, version of pd. pat

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API scheme for externals (Re: R: [PD] Re: [PD-announce] clr: externals in CLR assemblies
by Kjetil S. Matheussen 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

Mathieu Bouchard: > BTW, anyone looked at SWIG ? Yepp, I've used it some times. > It could provide a multilanguage interface to > Pd's API and/or Flext's API. SWIG generates wrappers from C++ code to > Python, Ruby, Perl, Java, C#, Tcl, PHP, Lua, and several kinds of LISP > (Guile, AllegroCL, CMUCL, ...). > > SWIG might be the key to unifying the Pd API in various programming > languages (currently, PyExt, GridFlow, k_guile, all do things quite > differently from each other). Note that I don't want a "common > denominator" API which would prevent from using any special features of a > given language in the Pd API for that language. Nevertheless I would like > language-specific APIs to be easy to guess (deduce) so that it's easy to > start writing externals in language X for someone who has general > experience in language X and experience in writing Pd externals in > language Y. Well, do you think theres so many different functions that we should invovle a common API set? Perhaps its a good idea, but theres only about 10-15 very essential functions and various, eh, esoteric ones, that hardly anyone use. Anyway, when making k_guile, I did follow the API of PyExt naming, so at least those two should be quite common. (by the way, k_guile is soon going to be marked as obsolete, the snd external is far superior). Regarding SWIG, its a beast that creates totally crazy code. I have used it for radium, ceres and mammut, but its doing too much, I think. At least for this. But maybe its worth looking into. The challenge about external language externals is anyhow threading, garbage collection, time spent doing things, and other things that can ruin dsp operations, not the API. So, I think that a more sober approach would be to make some kind of official guide-lines for making external languages externals, and put it into some kind of official documentation.

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Re: [PD] sound not working
by robertgarvin＠bellsouth.net 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

ok.. downloaded the "Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC7.exe" and it said: "The setup files are corrupted. Please obtain a new copy of the program." IÂm going to try to re download it. Redownload worked... Installing. It opens. But only gem loads... no other extern. Also, there's still no sound... Till next time, RG -----Original Message----- From: patrick [mailto:patrick@11h11.com] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:42 AM To: robertgarvin(a)bellsouth.net Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] sound not working install this version (thanks to hans): http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html http://puredata.org/Members/hans/downloads/installers/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC… pat

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Makeart
by Jerome Tuncer 20 Jan '06

20 Jan '06

Hi list, Sorry for being slightly off-topic here (slightly, anyway)... Anyone going from Paris to makeart.goto10.org and having a seat left in his car on the sat. 28th/ sun. 29th of january? Expenses would of course be shared (-: ++ Jé

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