Pd-list September 2005

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Re: Fwd: [PD] GEM failure glDeleteProgramsNV
by Christian Veit 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

Hallo, > > Can anyone give me a hint? (i'am new to linux,pd and gem) > ./configure --disable-openGL > (if you don't need the openGL wrappers, as usual ...) > ok, i don't need the openGL wrappers that's right, i've tried it but there is the same error message undefined Symbol glDeleteProgramsNV. The strange thing is that i have had compiled a running version of gem, but after a kernel change this message occured... The problem was that openGL was rendering on my CPU instead of my graphic card so a friend changed the kernel to 2.6.10-5-686, now openGL rendering on GPU is working... could there be a problem? When i had tried to compile Gem the first time (on the old 2.6.10 kernel) i also got this error message but then i've installed the imagemagick library and then it worked... thanks, Christian -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? Ohne Kosten, ohne Risiko! Satte Provisionen für GMX Partner: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/partner

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named inlets/outlets
by jake elliott 30 Sep '05

30 Sep '05

puredataminers, is there a reason we do not have named inlets/outlets like in max? i did some googling but wasn't able to find much discussion of this except for a similar question asked on this list a few years ago. it would be really nice to be able to hover over an inlet/outlet and see an instructive name - some objects do not have help files (or at least i am not finding the help files). best, jake

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resetting a patch
by Lorenz Schori 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi is there a simple way (message) to reset a patch to is initial state (like closing the window and reopen it)? lorenz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDOrCflNX+1hvKqPsRAh8sAJ9UoklFhTsYPcLcW76bPyXO2stpagCfZFmp G5u34nQY668tEzwAmbk3DD4= =iemD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RC arguments
by Irad Abraham 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

reading startup file: /Users/iab/.pdrc error parsing RC arguments i run pd 0.38 on osx. i keep getting this message even after reinstalling. the previous message on the pdlist that discussed this issue refered to a .pdrc file in /library/preferences/pd/ or something like that, though i have no .pdrc file in my system files or in the HD at all. irad

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GEM failure glDeleteProgramsNV
by Christian Veit 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hello, i have compiled Gem (i've checked it out from CVS) some days before without errors and could start it without errors. But there was a problem with my OpenGL rendering... So a friend of mine changed the kernel and now OpenGL is rendering perfectly. Now i have the problem that Gem would not start up.. the error message is undefined symbol: glDeleteProgramsNV I've tried to configure and compile Gem again but it doesn't work... always the same error message. The thing i don't understand is Gem was running before with the library's i have installed but now it doesn't!? thank you for help Christian checking for g++... g++ checking for C++ compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C++ compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking for gcc... gcc checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether ln -s works... yes checking for sin in -lm... yes checking for main in -lz... yes checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include checking for gethostbyname... yes checking for connect... yes checking for remove... yes checking for shmat... yes checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for main in -lX11... yes checking for main in -lXext... yes checking for XF86VidModeGetAllModeLines in -lXxf86vm... yes checking for main in -lXext... (cached) yes checking for glInitNames in -lGL... yes checking for gluLookAt in -lGLU... yes checking for "OpenGL"-framework... no checking for "AGL"-framework... no checking for "Carbon"-framework... no checking for "QuickTime"-framework... no checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes checking for PKG_IMAGEMAGICK___CFLAGS... checking for PKG_IMAGEMAGICK___LIBS... -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib/graphviz -llcms -ltiff -lfreetype -ljasper -ljpeg -lpng -ldpstk -ldps -lXext -lXt -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lbz2 -lxml2 -lz -lm -lpthread -lMagick++ -lMagick checking for PKG_TIFF_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_TIFF_LIBS... checking for tiff-config... no checking for TIFFOpen in -ltiff... yes checking for PKG_JPEG_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_JPEG_LIBS... checking for jpeg-config... no checking for jpeg_read_header in -ljpeg... yes checking for PKG_LIBQUICKTIME_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_LIBQUICKTIME_LIBS... checking for libquicktime-config... no checking for quicktime_init in -lquicktime... yes checking for PKG_LQT_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_LQT_LIBS... checking for lqt-config... yes checking for PKG_MPEG3_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_MPEG3_LIBS... checking for mpeg3-config... no checking for mpeg3_check_sig in -lmpeg3... yes checking for PKG_MPEG_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_MPEG_LIBS... checking for mpeg-config... no checking for OpenMPEG in -lmpeg... no checking for PKG_AVIFILE_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_AVIFILE_LIBS... checking for avifile-config... no checking for CreateIAviReadFile in -laviplay... no checking for PKG_FFMPEG_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_FFMPEG_LIBS... checking for ffmpeg-config... no checking for av_open_input_file in -lavformat... no checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking linux/videodev.h usability... yes checking linux/videodev.h presence... yes checking for linux/videodev.h... yes checking for PKG_IEEE1394_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_IEEE1394_LIBS... checking for ieee1394-config... no checking for main in -ldv... yes checking for PKG_FTGL_CFLAGS... -I/usr/include/freetype2 checking for PKG_FTGL_LIBS... -lGLU -lGL -lfreetype -lz -lftgl checking for PKG_GLTT_CFLAGS... checking for PKG_GLTT_LIBS... checking for gltt-config... no checking for GLTTFont in -lgltt... no checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes checking fcntl.h usability... yes checking fcntl.h presence... yes checking for fcntl.h... yes checking float.h usability... yes checking float.h presence... yes checking for float.h... yes checking for memory.h... (cached) yes checking stddef.h usability... yes checking stddef.h presence... yes checking for stddef.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes checking for string.h... (cached) yes checking for strings.h... (cached) yes checking sys/ioctl.h usability... yes checking sys/ioctl.h presence... yes checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes checking sys/time.h usability... yes checking sys/time.h presence... yes checking for sys/time.h... yes checking termios.h usability... yes checking termios.h presence... yes checking for termios.h... yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes checking for stdbool.h that conforms to C99... yes checking for _Bool... yes checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes checking for inline... inline checking for size_t... yes checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes checking for unsigned int... yes checking size of unsigned int... 4 checking for void *... yes checking size of void *... 4 checking for error_at_line... yes checking for pid_t... yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes checking vfork.h usability... no checking vfork.h presence... no checking for vfork.h... no checking for fork... yes checking for vfork... yes checking for working fork... yes checking for working vfork... (cached) yes checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes checking for GNU libc compatible malloc... yes checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes checking for getpagesize... yes checking for working mmap... yes checking for bzero... yes checking for floor... yes checking for gettimeofday... yes checking for memset... yes checking for munmap... yes checking for pow... yes checking for sqrt... yes checking for strchr... yes checking for strdup... yes checking for strrchr... yes checking for strstr... yes checking for glBindProgramARB in -lGL... yes checking whether compiler accepts "-freg-struct-return"... yes enabling "register struct return" allows to make use of FreeFrame-effects without recompiling them might break things, if you are using several different compilers checking whether compiler accepts "-O3"... yes checking whether compiler accepts "-fno-builtin"... yes checking whether compiler accepts "-falign-loops=16 -funroll-loops"... yes checking whether compiler accepts "-ffast-math"... yes checking whether compiler accepts "-mmmx"... yes checking whether compiler accepts "-faltivec"... no checking whether linker accepts "-shared -Wl,-export-dynamic"... yes checking whether linker accepts "-bundle -bundle_loader /usr/bin/pd"... no checking for strip... strip checking if strip is GNU strip... yes checking for dos2unix... true configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Make.config config.status: creating Base/configLinux.h config.status: Base/configLinux.h is unchanged Result: Target : Gem.pd_linux Objects : Base Controls Geos Manips MarkEx Nongeos Particles Pixes openGL Configuration: Compiler : g++ CXXFLAGS : -g -O2 -freg-struct-return -O3 -fno-builtin -falign-loops=16 -funroll-loops -ffast-math -mmmx -I/usr/X11R6/include : -I/usr/include/quicktime -I/usr/include/freetype2 INCLUDES : -I/usr/include/FTGL -I/usr/include/freetype2 DEFINES : LIBS : -ldv -lmpeg3 -lquicktime -ljpeg -ltiff -lGLU -lGL -lXext -lXxf86vm -lXext -lX11 -ldl -lz -lm -L/usr/X11R6/lib : -lGLU -lGL -lfreetype -lz -lftgl -L/usr/lib -lquicktime -lgthread -lz -ldl -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib/graphviz -llcms -ltiff -lfreetype -ljasper -ljpeg -lpng -ldpstk -ldps -lXext -lXt -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lbz2 -lxml2 -lz -lm -lpthread -lMagick++ -lMagick LDFLAGS : -shared -Wl,-export-dynamic : -L/usr/X11R6/lib Strip : strip --strip-unneeded Install path : /usr/local pure-data: version : 0.38 used optional libraries: font-rendering : FTGL image-support use ImageMagick : yes use TIFF : yes use JPEG : yes video-support use mpeg : no use mpeg-3 : yes use QuickTime : yes use aviplay : no use ffmpeg : no input-support use v4l : yes use ieee1394 : yes misc using ARB-extensions : yes using reg-struct-ret : yes Now run make ... -- Lust, ein paar Euro nebenbei zu verdienen? 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Re: [PD] [OT] Darwinports vs Fink vs GentooOSX vs ???
by Zachary Crockett 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

>>> Which system of *Nix ports for OSX have people been most successful >>> with? I mean for getting all the dependencies down to install more >>> audio/multimedia stuff on top of. >>> >>> Darwinports looks OK for basic libs, Fink seems really messy but >>> maybe more complete, and OSXGentoo is more of a proof-of-concept >>> than >>> something usable as far as I can see. Suggestions in this >>> department. >>> >> >> ...fink is what I've used for the last 4 years...I've had no >> "show-stopper" problems, just make sure you're grabbing from >> cvs/rsync...it also installs both dylibs and statics, and dylibs will >> be linked against before statics (unless you make things explicit), >> but this is only meaningful if you are looking into portability >> between machines... >> > > Yeah, fink works well for me too. I am a big Debian fan, so its nice > to have the same system on OSX too. > > .hc I think your descriptions above are about as concise and accurate a description as you can get. I primarily use darwinports... I have fink installed too, but of the 50-ish packages I've installed, I think 2 of them are from fink and both might have since been added to darwinports... I recently built ardour ( http://ardour.org/ ), which was a bit of an ordeal, but as a point of reference, I don't think I had to get anything from fink to do it -- all from darwinports or just downloading from sourceforge. I mainly have fink installed because I know about it before I knew about darwinports. Cheers, Zac

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controlling a webcam?
by julieta Maria 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hi, list! I have a question: I have to be able to control a the movement of web cam through internet. I was thinking to attach it to a couple of motors and control them through a serial port via a stamp... I would try to control the stamp sending values from PD (via the serial port)... And somehow send these values to PD from a web interface... Is this possible and/or the best/easier way to do it? Can I use the netreceive object for this, and what kind of objects/ software should I use to send this kind of data over the internet, what info would I need for that? I am practically new to networking... Has anyone done something similar or could someone point in the right direction? Thanks a lot... __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [PD] [OT] Darwinports vs Fink vs GentooOSX vs ???
by shreeswifty 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

i abandoned darwin for sake of ease and use fink/X11 rather well for PiDiP, pdp etc. As for other unix apps i have found Fink very handy in building fossa, snd, atsh, freewrl,OSG etc... still would love to get my 2|6 card working properly in pd OSX though :-) my $0.02 On Thu Sep 29 04:36:46 EDT 2005, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> wrote: > > On Sep 21, 2005, at 5:38 PM, james tittle wrote: > >> On Sep 21, 2005, at 10:43 AM, derek holzer wrote: >>> Which system of *Nix ports for OSX have people been most >>> successful with? I mean for getting all the dependencies down >>> to install more audio/multimedia stuff on top of. >>> >>> Darwinports looks OK for basic libs, Fink seems really messy >>> but maybe more complete, and OSXGentoo is more of a >>> proof-of-concept than something usable as far as I can see. >>> Suggestions in this department. >> >> ...fink is what I've used for the last 4 years...I've had no >> "show-stopper" problems, just make sure you're grabbing from >> cvs/rsync...it also installs both dylibs and statics, and dylibs >> will be linked against before statics (unless you make things >> explicit), but this is only meaningful if you are looking into >> portability between machines... > > Yeah, fink works well for me too. I am a big Debian fan, so its > nice to have the same system on OSX too. > > .hc > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > > "Information wants to be free." > -Stewart Brand > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > Patrick Pagano,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082

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PD Stammtisch Vienna, Fr 30.09., 8 PM, Transporter
by Thomas Grill 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

Hi all, since H.C.Steiner is in Vienna right now, we take the opportunity to have an informal physical gathering tomorrow evening, 8 PM at the fairly new club "Transporter" in Margaretenstr. 54, 5th district. http://www.transporterbar.com/ Come join us for "a" beer or similar! until then, all the best, Thomas PS. If you want to join in please drop me a line, so that i can (if necessary) reserve a table of appropriate size.

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Re: [PD] [OT][NYC] Free Hardware Share?
by vade 29 Sep '05

29 Sep '05

This sounds super interesting. Id be down, im in NYC.... and I know share (the event in NYC) would love some hardware to set up an open source media station for randoms to use.. It would be great to get some donations... works out nice. I used to go to the MIT Fleamarket that happened from spring -> fall , every other saturday, in Boston iirc. That was an AWESOME place to meet people and find old stuff.. Id love to see something like that in NYC. hmmm... :) v a d e // http://homepage.mac.com/doktorp/ doktorp(a)mac.com On Sep 23, 2005, at 1:29 PM, vze26m98 wrote: Hey all- Thought I'd throw this out to PD'ers in the NYC area, or anyone really: I've been having great luck (for my purposes) finding computers and parts on the streets of New York, and have even been doing some informal trading with some of the other street scavengers. I got a mailing from the Department of Sanitation advertising their recycling day at Union Square, October 16th, I think. Has anyone been to one of these as a source of hardware or talked to the Dept. about getting a crack at their stuff for group projects? Or whatever? How about a PD demo table? curious, vatic <vze26m98(a)optonline.net> _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list v a d e // http://homepage.mac.com/doktorp/ doktorp(a)mac.com

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