Pd-list July 2005

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readanysf~ compile troubles and usage problems
by Jerome Tuncer 02 Jul '05

02 Jul '05

Hello everyone! I found the object [readanysf~] and it appeared to be just what I needed for a patch of mine: a simple and plain soundfile player (not buffer player) reporting the advance in the file. I had troubles compiling it: it said it needed Thomas' flext layer so I got that, compiled it without any troubles. But when it came to compiling [readanysf~], the output kept saying it couldn't find -lflext. I did everything Thomas said in his clever readme file (added path to flext libs in /etc/ld.so.conf, ran ldconfig to update /etc/ld.so.cache) but it didn't work for [readanysf~] to compile until I copied everything from the flext dir. to /lib. That's not really clever I know but it's the only solution I found (-: Other troubles came when I started using it: it works quite well for some time. But at one time it outputs: readanysf~:: SRC error: SRC_STATE pointer is NULL In the Pd window. It does it mainly when I keep on loading files into it. I have to restart Pd for it to work again. What can it be? Is it because of my compilation trick? Is it a problem with flext or [readanysf~] itself? I'm lost... Maybe it's due to conflicts between libraries, I heard this could happen sometimes... I run Pd 0.38.4 from Miller's site, Debian unstable kernel 2.6.8, realtime-lsm module and Jack Server realtime. Does anyone know what it can be and by the way is there another plain soundfile player (I don't need variable speed nor position jump/locate) that outputs playback position in the file? Thanks and sorry for the textflow (-:

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splitfilename bug?
by Johannes Burström 02 Jul '05

02 Jul '05

Hi, Lately, while working on a patch, i've had some strange crashes. I think i have found the source at splitfilename. When you are sending symbols to it, after a while it simply crashes. Attached is a patch which illustrates this behaviour - type some asdfasdf into the symbol atoms and prepare for segfault. I'm on linux, and have tried this on three pd installs - 0.38(-4?) devel, Miller's 0.38-4 and the latest debian package. regards, Johannes #N canvas 0 0 450 300 10; #X obj 127 186 splitfilename; #X symbolatom 127 77 10 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 202 78 <- enter a few random strings here; #X symbolatom 142 127 10 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 221 124 <- or perhaps here; #X obj 142 148 makefilename /foo/baz/bar/%s; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 0 0;

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Re: [PD] fluid~ compilation on OSX-another one
by Koray Tahiroglu 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Hi Thomas, I will try to compile Flext once again from the (cvs) files, before that I will try to solve the problem of -framework vecLib with a help from David anf Frank:-) best, Koray. > Hi Koray, > i'm following the discussion about flext/externals compilation one with > one eye because i'm too busy at the moment. > However, there are two points: > > 1) You are using the old build system. This is necessary because i > haven't released to new one yet. > With your build output > > >>>g++ -c -O3 -DPD -I/Users/mlab/pd/src/ -I/usr/local/lib/pd/flext/../src > >>>-I/usr/local/lib/pd/flext fluid/main.cpp -o pd-darwin/fluid.o > >>>g++ -bundle -bundle_loader /Users/mlab/pd/bin/pd -flat_namespace > >>>pd-darwin/fluid.o /usr/local/lib/pd/flext/flext.a -lm -lfluidsynth -o > >>>pd-darwin/fluid.pd_darwin > >>>ld: Undefined symbols: > >>>_vScopy > >>>_vadd > >>>_vmul > >>>_vsmul > >>>make: *** [pd-darwin/fluid.pd_darwin] Error 1 > >>>rm pd-darwin/fluid.o > >>> > >>> > you seem to be only an additional "-framework vecLib" compiler switch > away from success. > > 2) fluid~ should rather use the new (cvs) build system, because it's > much easier to configure and use, and in general much less hassle for > external developers. > > best greetings, > Thomas

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Re: [PD] fluid~ compilation on OSX-another one
by Koray Tahiroglu 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Hello David, > Once you've successfully compiled flext, do the following in > footils/fluid: > > 1- make sure you do 'mkdir pd-darwin' (missing dir there from cvs > checkout...someone please add?) I made a folder called pd-darwin > 2- g++ -c -O6 -mcpu=G4 -DPD -I/usr/include/src -I/usr/local/lib > -I../../grill/flext/source/ fluid/main.cpp -o pd-darwin/fluid.o > > 3- g++ -bundle -bundle_loader /usr/local/bin/pd -flat_namespace > pd-darwin/fluid.o -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lfluidsynth > /usr/local/lib/pd/flext/flext.a -framework veclib -o > pd-darwin/fluid.pd_darwin Here is the part from the makefile.pd_darwin that I am using, how should I convert this one so that it will give the above output that you mentioned? # ----------------------------------------------------- include config-pd-darwin.txt FLEXTLIB=$(FLEXTPATH)/flext.a # take threaded library for all # compiler+linker stuff ### EDIT! ### #CXX=g++ #-3.2 INCLUDES=$(PDPATH) $(FLEXTPATH)/../source LIBPATH= FLAGS=-DPD CFLAGS=-O3 LIBS=m fluidsynth LDFLAGS=-bundle -bundle_loader /Users/mlab/pd/bin/pd -flat_namespace # the rest can stay untouched # ---------------------------------------------- best, Koray.

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Re: [PD] fluid~ compilation on OSX-another one
by Koray Tahiroglu 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Hello Frank, > > 2- g++ -c -O6 -mcpu=G4 -DPD -I/usr/include/src -I/usr/local/lib > > -I../../grill/flext/source/ fluid/main.cpp -o pd-darwin/fluid.o > > > > 3- g++ -bundle -bundle_loader /usr/local/bin/pd -flat_namespace > > pd-darwin/fluid.o -lm -L/usr/local/lib -lfluidsynth > > /usr/local/lib/pd/flext/flext.a -framework veclib -o > > pd-darwin/fluid.pd_darwin > > Maybe we can try to fix the build using the flext-build system. Inside > the "fluid" directory, it should in the end work with something like > "flext-build.sh pd gcc" or similar - I don't know, where flext > installs the flext-build.sh on OS-X. > I couldnt find any flext-build.sh file that we can modify, but here I paste another build-.sh file, if you can modify this one then maybe we can try this to compile fluid. #!/bin/sh . config-pd-darwin.txt make -f makefile.pd-darwin && { if [ "${INSTPATH}" != "" ]; then echo Now install as root sudo make -f makefile.pd-darwin install fi } > Then in "build/gnumake-mac-gcc.inc" it is possible to specify > libraries and frameworks. Currently there just is: > > LIBS += -framework Fluidsynth > > but from reading your g++-line maybe it should be: > > LIBS += -lfluidsynth -framework veclib I will change this in gnumake-mac-gcc.inc, when we have the flext-build.sh best Koray.

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gui object font size
by Christopher Charles 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

hi list! just recently i stumbled over a weirdness in the gui objects pd borrowed from iemlib: at a screen resolution of 1280x1024, small font sizes are displayed bigger in my patches than at 1024x768. the oddness is that this happens only to smaller font sizes, bigger ones are displayed correctly in both resolutions. i attached a test patch showing font size 10 and 22. is this a bug or a feature, and is it on the pd or the tcl/tk side? i know it's ergonomically correct to have a minimum absolute fontsize (about 2.6 mm at 50cm viewing distance), but it just ruins the portability of fine-tuned gui patches. thanks in advance charlie #N canvas 53 215 718 309 10; #X obj 36 63 cnv 15 102 60 empty empty courier22 0 12 0 22 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 35 130 cnv 15 105 60 empty empty helvetica22 0 12 1 22 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 184 63 cnv 15 56 60 empty empty times22 0 12 2 22 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 123 228 cnv 15 42 60 empty empty courier10 0 12 0 10 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 28 226 cnv 15 44 60 empty empty helvetica10 0 12 1 10 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 229 227 cnv 15 22 60 empty empty times10 0 12 2 10 -233017 -66577 0; #X text 292 59 at a resolution of 1024x768 \, the right border of the canvas is always between font name and fontsize. at a resolution of 1280x1024 it is only right for the fontsize 22 fonts \, the fontsize 10 fonts are displayed bigger now...;

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reminder : pd vienna meeting tomorrow (Modified by martin pichlmair)
by martin pichlmair 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

hi, this is a reminder for the pure data meeting in vienna tomorrow: [ 16h00 rain time 5uper.net / museumsquartier q21 | transeuropa trakt >> freiraum museumsplatz 1,1070 wien ] be sure to bring your laptop and show us what you [can't] do with pd there is no program or plan so we simply meet, sit, compile, patch, jam and talk and are the happier the more people drop by lg martin ps: to all of you: make a backup of your harddisk. now. i had a headcrash yesterday. that's even more fun with a backup.

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Re: [PD] fluid~ compilation on OSX-another one
by Koray Tahiroglu 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Hello Frank, I got this message when I tried to compile fluid right after I typed make -f makefile.pd_darwin and I used the write paths for flext I guess, like after I compiled flext the library was installed at usr/local/lib/pd/flext. but i dont know if it i the right way to compile fluid. I got all the files under http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/footils/fluid/ do I need anything else? or is there any problem with flext? Koray. > Hallo, > Koray Tahiroglu hat gesagt: // Koray Tahiroglu wrote: > > > I dont know if it the same kind of error I got as David,but when I tried > > to compile fluid on OSX I got the below error. I have compiled Flext and > > also fluidsynth, before I tried to compile fluid. > > > > thanks in advance. > > > > g++ -c -O3 -DPD -I/Users/mlab/pd/src/ -I/usr/local/lib/pd/flext/../src > > -I/usr/local/lib/pd/flext fluid/main.cpp -o pd-darwin/fluid.o > > g++ -bundle -bundle_loader /Users/mlab/pd/bin/pd -flat_namespace > > pd-darwin/fluid.o /usr/local/lib/pd/flext/flext.a -lm -lfluidsynth -o > > pd-darwin/fluid.pd_darwin > > ld: Undefined symbols: > > _vScopy > > _vadd > > _vmul > > _vsmul > > make: *** [pd-darwin/fluid.pd_darwin] Error 1 > > rm pd-darwin/fluid.o > > Did you get this error when using the flext buildsys? Like in > $ flext-build.sh pd gcc > ? > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__ > > _ __latest track: "scans" _ http://footils.org/cms/show/41 > >

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[PD]iem16: loading files into table16
by moritz w. 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

ello, i work with big samples now, and i have tried to load samples with soundfiler into table16, but it dont load.. do i forgot something, or is there a "soundfiler16", or another solution without soundfiler for load "instantly" into table16? greetings moritz -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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fluid~ compilation on OSX-another one
by Koray Tahiroglu 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Hello everybody, I dont know if it the same kind of error I got as David,but when I tried to compile fluid on OSX I got the below error. I have compiled Flext and also fluidsynth, before I tried to compile fluid. thanks in advance. g++ -c -O3 -DPD -I/Users/mlab/pd/src/ -I/usr/local/lib/pd/flext/../src -I/usr/local/lib/pd/flext fluid/main.cpp -o pd-darwin/fluid.o g++ -bundle -bundle_loader /Users/mlab/pd/bin/pd -flat_namespace pd-darwin/fluid.o /usr/local/lib/pd/flext/flext.a -lm -lfluidsynth -o pd-darwin/fluid.pd_darwin ld: Undefined symbols: _vScopy _vadd _vmul _vsmul make: *** [pd-darwin/fluid.pd_darwin] Error 1 rm pd-darwin/fluid.o ----------------- M.Koray Tahiroglu DA student/researcher Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ tel: +358 40 754 8449 fax: +358 9 75630 555

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