Pd-list October 2005

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its kinda funny
by Matthew Williams 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

he i just joined the list ... so maybe i'm making the wrong assumption. But is 90% of most of the posts related to getting PD and and "addittiona"l products (libs, externals etc.) installed correctly. I'm definitely having problems myself ... it seems like there'd be a comprehensive tutorial on installation/compiling for mac , linux and windows... Maybe it's because i'm not that great with shells and commandline. But i'd like to get past the initial installation phase and get on with creating and manipulating music. Although i do like the challange it presents and it's getting me much more familiar with my OSX system (ie. how to compile sources) so it's not all bad just frusturating. just a thought , matt

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PiDiP compiling errors at 'make'
by florian grassl 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

hello yves, hello list, i am attempting to compile pidip on suse9.3 and get stuck at 'make' with the following error: ###this is where make stops ----- all pdp_xxxx.c return this error######## cc1: warning: "-Wno-deprecated" is valid for C++ but not for C/ObjC pdp_juxta.c: In function `pdp_juxta_sendpacket0': pdp_juxta.c:160: warning: passing arg 2 of `pdp_packet_pass_if_valid' from incompatible pointer type pdp_juxta.c: In function `pdp_juxta_sendpacket1': pdp_juxta.c:166: warning: passing arg 2 of `pdp_packet_pass_if_valid' from incompatible pointer type pdp_juxta.c: In function `pdp_juxta_process0': pdp_juxta.c:182: warning: passing arg 4 of `pdp_queue_add' from incompatible pointer type pdp_juxta.c: In function `pdp_juxta_process1': pdp_juxta.c:209: warning: passing arg 4 of `pdp_queue_add' from incompatible pointer type pdp_juxta.c: In function `pdp_juxta_input_0': pdp_juxta.c:235: warning: passing arg 1 of `pdp_packet_convert_ro_or_drop' from incompatible pointer typepdp_juxta.c: In function `pdp_juxta_input_1': pdp_juxta.c:258: warning: passing arg 1 of `pdp_packet_convert_ro_or_drop' from incompatible pointer typegcc -D_REENTRANT -DNOCONTROLS -fexceptions -Wno-char-subscripts -Wno-unknown-pragmas -Wno-deprecated -DPLAYER_PLUGIN_DIR="/usr/local/lib/mp4player_plugin" -g -O2 -DUSE_MMX -DMPEG4IP -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -Wall -pthread -I/usr/X11R6/include -DPD -DX_DISPLAY_MISSING -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DPDP_PIDIP_VERSION=\"0.12.19\" -g -I/usr/local/pd/src -I. -I/usr/local/pd/pdp/include -I../include -I../charmaps -I/usr/include/SDL -I/usr/local/include/SDL -I/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/mpeg4ip-1.3/server/mp4live -I/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/mpeg4ip-1.3/player/src -I/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/mpeg4ip-1.3/player/lib -I/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/mpeg4ip-1.3/lib/msg_queue -I/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/mpeg4ip-1.3/lib -o pdp_capture.o -c pdp_capture.c cc1: warning: "-Wno-deprecated" is valid for C++ but not for C/ObjC pdp_capture.c: In function `XMyGetWindowImage': pdp_capture.c:207: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules pdp_capture.c:338: error: structure has no member named `storage_class' pdp_capture.c:339: error: structure has no member named `storage_class' pdp_capture.c:392: error: structure has no member named `storage_class' pdp_capture.c:393: error: structure has no member named `storage_class' pdp_capture.c:429: error: structure has no member named `storage_class' pdp_capture.c:539: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules pdp_capture.c:545: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules pdp_capture.c: In function `pdp_capture_sendpacket': pdp_capture.c:796: warning: passing arg 2 of `pdp_packet_pass_if_valid' from incompatible pointer type make[1]: *** [pdp_capture.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/pd/externs/pidip/modules' make: *** [pdp_pidip_all] Error 2 i am clueless about all this yet i have found some old advice on the list how to erase lines for pdp_capture so pidip would simply not use capturing. Unfortunately that didn't work for me as well as there'd be the error for pdp_juxta.c. (and all other pdp_xxx.c) configure went through ok with mpeg4ip and the latest pdp. Any ideas on this? greetin's & thanks in advance, flo ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193

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switch~ & cputime
by dafydd hughes 24 Oct '05

24 Oct '05

Hi all Okay. I'm stumped. Recently, I've noticed that my cpu meter has been steadily rising. I think I may have found the culprit. A while back I thought I'd put a power switch (just a switch~ object) on my poor-man's granular delay line, as my performance patches are getting a bit bulky. Try this (if you have the time): http://www.sideshowmedia.ca/cputest.zip cputest.pd: (needs expr, but I think that's all) 1. turn on audio in pd, but leave the power (p toggle) in "lois" off. Watch the cpu meter climb (over a period of 5 minutes or so - the toggle prints the cputime every 10 seconds). On my computer (G4 Powerbook, HCS extended 0.38.4) it starts around 5% and hits 10% after 5 minutes. 2. Do the same with "lois" on. For me, cpu hovers around 13-14%. No increase. 3. Repeat step 1. After 10-15 minutes, cputime is higher than with "lois" on. Switch "lois" on, and cpu drops. Huh? I have no idea what's going on, but am I missing something important? Thanks in advance. cheers dafydd

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ordered numbers
by hard off 24 Oct '05

24 Oct '05

preferably without using externals, can anyone tell me how to do this: ********************* input: 0, 3, 5, 10 output: 1, 2, 3, 4 ********************* input: 10, 5, 3, 0 output: 4, 3, 2, 1 ********************* input: 10, 3, 0, 5 output: 4, 2, 1, 3 *********************

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USB in out device k8055
by Finn Kruyning 24 Oct '05

24 Oct '05

Hi, I've been using PD in os X with great joy for a year now but always on fairly straightforward grounds. Mostly using (modified) mouse and keyboard events to control audio prossessing. Recently I bought and put together a USB I/O ddevice (Velleman k8055). So now I'm looking for ways to let PD interact with it. Has anyone a idea where to start? I tried [keyboard] which does see it but does not output any data. Where to start? Greetings, Finn Quality Quartet music & sound • Jacob van Lennepkade 187 • 1054 ZN Amsterdam • The Netherlands • tel: ++ 31 (0)20 4700627 • fax:++ 31 (0)20 4700624 http://www.qualityquartet.com

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was: Problem with dyn~
by Pall Thayer 24 Oct '05

24 Oct '05

Never mind, got it working. -- Pall Thayer palli(a)pallit.lhi.is http://www.this.is/pallit

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Problem Compiling VSTSERVER for k_vst external
by malik miller 24 Oct '05

24 Oct '05

Hey there, I am having a problem compiling the vstserver in order to use the k_vst external. I am running the latest Demudi system (1.2.1), and I have installed the version of Wine posted specifically for use with vstserver. Unfortunately I am quite new to this and need some help interpreting the error message I am getting (which I have pasted below). Any help would be much appreciated: demudi:/usr/src/vstserver-0.3.1# make echo "\ cd servant/win;\ /usr/local/bin/winemaker --lower-none --nolower-include --nosource-fix --nobanner --nobackup -I../../include -I/usr/local/include/wine/windows -L../.. -lvstservant -L/usr/local/lib -L/site/lib .;\ ./configure --with-wine=/usr/local\ " >makevstserver.sh sh makevstserver.sh Scanning the source directories... Generating project files... sh: line 1: autoconf: command not found . rm makevstserver.sh echo "cd servant/win;make" >makevstserver.sh touch servant/win/dummy.c sh makevstserver.sh make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/vstserver-0.3.1/servant/win' make[1]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/vstserver-0.3.1/servant/win' make: *** [servant/win/win.exe.so] Error 2

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Re: [PD] Rradical prob ...
by Matthew Williams 23 Oct '05

23 Oct '05

thanks frank... that helps. I still don't have it working right but i'll get it. Another quick question... shouldn't the extended version have done all that though. The only rradical files i can find are the ones i downloaded for your site. Where does the extended version place all its files ... like the tutorials, and example, cem, rradical patches.... i can't seem to find them. are they some how embedded and inaccessable ... that wouldn't be very Pd like, so i guess i'm not looking in the right places. But searches i do, i only come across the files i've downloaded previously before the extended version... know what i mean. But like you said, i'll learn to compile things myself. but man i really want to get going with this... if it's been this difficult for me to install properly ... i hate to think of the trouble i might have making the sort of patches i want to make. Then again i'm used to logic and like programs where you can push a button.. it installs and within the day you can have track done. I guess i'm not going to get instant gratification with PD so i need to be patient with myself and not give up. But at the same time i don't want to wait 2 yrs b 4 i have something that i can use. I'll stop venting.... anyway... thanks for the help matt

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Rradical prob ... im new
by Matthew Williams 23 Oct '05

23 Oct '05

hey list, I'm new to the list so i know i'll ask some very basic questions so i apologize. I really want to get to know pd and hopefully make some nice real time midi manipulation patches, and audio manip. patches. My first problem involves the Rradical abstractions. I've installed the Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC2, so i could be up a running with GEM, osc, zexy, and all the externals, and abstractions. However, whenever i try to load a Rradical patch i get this error commun /volume $0 ... couldn't create originator /mypatch $0 ... couldn't create careGUI ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. Then when the patch shows up in a window if i move a slider or something i get : expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' How might i fix this. I follow the "extended" instructions (ie. copy the org.puredata.pd.plist to the user preferences folder ) By the way i use OSX 10.3.9. I've also installed TclTkAguaBI 8.4.10, what am i not doing. I can't seem to get up and running with abstractions or externals. Allthough the tutorial patches all work fine. Also, how might i upgrade to Pd 0.39.1 without losing all the stuff the pd extended version has made available to me. any help would be much appreciated, Matt

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Externals
by josue moreno 23 Oct '05

23 Oct '05

Hi list, sorry for this basic question, im trying to add externals to my 0.37 version of Pd runing in a Mac OS X 10.3.9 G4 I have to put in the comand line (-lib xsample) but it doesnt work. Maybe i didnt copy the folder in a properly place. Can anybody explain me step by step how can i do that? Ive got another two questions: - my trouble in Max with externals is that i dont know exactly what externals ive got(only know the objects if i go to the folders and read the documentation) .Is there a way to know the objects and the main function?(im looking for something like ctrl-click on the canvas and help that works in the distributed version) - How can i take a patcher that somebody puted on the web as text and load in my computer? Sorry but im a very beginer..... Thanks a lot.

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Pd-list October 2005