Pd-list October 2005

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pool disappears
by Gerda Strobl 08 Nov '05

08 Nov '05

Dear list, hallo Thomas just installed new version of pool-(using pd-0.39-1test1) my pd is telling me: pool 0.2.2pre - hierarchical storage object, (C)2002-2005 Thomas Grill When i open new file -new object-I write in "pool"-as soon as I click next to the object -the whole object is disappearing. but saving the patch shows me in the text file that the object is there. But on the other side I can open pool-help.pd--and pool is visible--but copying from there to the empty patch doesnt work. This doesn't happen with pd 0.38-4-(there it works perfect)--is this magic disapperance because of pd-0.39? thx Gerda

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[netpd] everybody is invited to join the collaborative music-project
by Roman Haefeli 04 Nov '05

04 Nov '05

<announcement> hi all some poeple already heard about it, others maybe not. i'm working on a project, that allows several users to make music in realtime over the internet. netpd also provides a bunch of abstractions, that can be used to make an existing patch 'netpd-able' or to create a complete new netpd-patch. if you are interested, please visit: http://www.netpd.org and download the netpd-package (needs pd>=0.38, zexy>=1.3 and maxlib>=1.5.2) a few people spread over the world are already using netpd and have a session occasionally. if you could set up netpd and connect to the server, ask somebody, who is online, for a short demo. some poeple are online very often, so the chance is not too small, that you meet somebody. if you have questions, send me an email, but maybe its faster to aks me or someone else in the netpd-chat. hope to make sound with you soon....... cheers roman </announcement> ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de

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Re: [PD] [netpd] everybody is invited to join the collaborative music-project
by Roman Haefeli 04 Nov '05

04 Nov '05

hi sven, hi list entschuldige, dass ich diese mail an die liste weiterleite, aber ich denke, das thema ist fÃ¼r alle (zukÃ¼nftigen) netpd-user interessant. you mentioned the security aspects of netpd. i admit that i never cared seriously about this topic, but i'm aware that netpd could be a security risk. short description of the problem: with netpd it's possible to upload patches to the computer of all connected users and control them remotely. since there are some methods in pd to read or write data from/to harddisk, it would be possible with netpd to receive this data from a remote computer. i'm not a specialist in security questions, so i appreciate every advice. my first thoughts tend to the direction of filtering out problematic objects during transmission of a patch. the first thing that everyone should care when using netpd is to avoid loading not used externals. especially the [shell] external is very delicate. maybe this is naiv, but i think as long as there are only a few users, using netpd shouldn't be too dangerous, but it absolutely is an aspect to take care of. roman sven <ml.sven(a)subscience.de> wrote: > hi roman, > wenn du netpd public machst, > solltest du nicht vergessen, > dass es auch ein ziemliches > sicherheitsrisiko darstellt... > werden gesharte patches > denn auf potentielle gefahren > gescannt? > > > sven. > ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de

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[osx] pd++0.39-1Beta available
by james tittle 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

http://homepage.mac.com/tigital ...in the puredataStuff directory there is an archive containing pd+ +0.39-1Beta.tgz...this is built in a similar way to Hans' releases, but includes a ton of fixes, such as: - the flext system is now working, but only xsample/dyn~/pool included atm - uses tcl/tk 8.4.10 - 10.4.x only, as far as I can tell - pdp 0.12.4 & pidip 0.12.19 both included (static linked libs)! mainly used via the pdp/gem bridges, but [pdp_glx] should also work...also don't forget [pdp_ieee1394] for video input, with fixes (more to come) - pdp2gem, gem2pdp, pix_2pdp - latest gem, zexy, miXed, cyclone cvs - gem window is now "frontable", so it [gemmouse] works (and it generally behaves like a real window should) - tons of externals from cvs: I'll try to produce a list ...comments welcome! Especially interested to see if this fixes some "slow interface" problems people have complained about of late... l8r, james ps: as soon as I can sort out a problem with scons, devel_0_39 will be available (and of course desiredata after that!)

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[list]-abs
by Frank Barknecht 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Hi, I collected my [list] abstractions into attached archive. None of these abstractions require any externals, but of course they need pd-0.39 at least. Currently the most recent version always is to be found in my pwd~ at http://royalrabbit.goto10.org/svn/goto10/pd-patches/fbar/list-abs/ but later I will check these into CVS as well. (Btw: Does anyone have a decent script to sync svn and CVS?) They don't have a proper license, as they are so simple, consider them public domain or released under the Pd license. Here's the README: list-abs -------- These are abstractions implementing common list operations. Included are in alphabetical order: last-x.pd get a list containing the last x atoms received. list-demux.pd route lists to different outlets (like demux in zexy). list-drip.pd serialize a list automatically (like drip in zexy). list-drip2.pd serialize two lists in sync as long as first list lasts. list-dripslow.pd serialize a list on demand: each bang will output the next element. list-makefilename.pd apply [makefilename] on list elements, if they are symbols. list-math.pd apply [expr OP] with OP in (+,-,*,/) on list elements, if they are floats. list-rev.pd reverse a list. list-rot.pd rotate a list (move X elements from front to back) sroute.pd a settable [route] object for a single selector. take-two.pd take a list as input and print all combinations of length two without repetition. triple-scale.pd this actually is not using [list]: Interpolate between two (x,y,z)-points. Have fun, ignore externals. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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max msp vs pd
by Matthew Williams 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

Ok i'm curious .... why would someone spend 400 dollars on max when you can get pd for free. Is it because of the ability to make plugin's using pluggo. But can't you make plug-ins from pd as well. I was going to buy max but i came across pd and thought, "this is great..max for free." Am i wrong. And yes i read about the differences .. but they don't justify 400 dollars. wondering, matt

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Data structures
by josue moreno 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

Hi list, im really interested about grafical scores, i just read about Data Structures as a powerfull tool for composers. Im trying to understand the manual, but i think im a very very beginer, can anybody say to me where can i find a friendly tutorial about it? Any help will be apreciate, Thanks. " El mutismo aparente de las cosas no es mÃ¡s que la cortÃ©s espera de nuestras preguntas"

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Data Structures feature request
by Chuckk Hubbard 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

Since it isn't possible to delete individual scalars, what about the possibility to have different types of scalars (or scalars with different values) drawn to different subpatches, and then have a sort of master pd display that could be set to draw everything from several different subpatches. That way, for instance, to mute all the blue notes, I could just have pd-blue stop drawing to pd-score. Or one could delete all of a certain structure without deleting everything, simply by clearing the appropriate subpatch. I see 0.39 has a feature to turn off drawing for scalars, but does this actually remove them from the list? I guess it would be simple enough to add an extra variable for mute. Also, 0.39 has audio problems on my system. Thanks. -Chuckk -- "It is not when truth is dirty, but when it is shallow, that the lover of knowledge is reluctant to step into its waters." -Friedrich Nietzsche, "Thus Spoke Zarathustra"

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freeverb and multiverb
by Jamie Bullock 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

Hi! Is anyone supporting either of the above for PD now? The akustische- kunst site seems to Max/MSP only now. Are the externs still available anywhere? -- Regards, Jamie

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Re: [PD] Usb lights
by robertgarvin＠bellsouth.net 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

right.. so then the next step would be trying to create a usb device, possibly with usb ports, that would be similar to pd turning on and off a certain parameter, such as power. In a sense, it would be like a MIDI controlled, mini lighting rig. I know theater sometimes uses midi to control lights in a automated way.. so something like that. -Robert ps. the link you gave me didn't work for some reason. >On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: >>*Cheapest* would be AID, but that would be a little more work. >> >>aid.interaccess.org >> >> >>but I think CK is right that indeed usb lights are probably NOT comtrollable at all, probably just feed >>the power lines of the USB port to the light. I don't think you can issue a command to tell a >>computer to turn the power off on a given USB port. > >.b.

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