Pd-list March 2004

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pdp_pidip_osx package install problems
by robcanning 10 Apr '04

10 Apr '04

Also, I'm trying to install Yves' pdp_pidip package, when i try: [Rob-Cannings-Computer:~/desktop/pdp_pidip_osx] robcanning% ./configure configure: error: cannot find sources (system/kernel/pdp.c) in . or .. when i try ./buildall [Rob-Cannings-Computer:~/desktop/pdp_pidip_osx/pdp_pidip_osx] robcanning% ./buildall configure: error: cannot find sources (system/kernel/pdp.c) in . or .. ./buildall: cd: scaf: No such file or directory configure: error: cannot find sources (system/kernel/pdp.c) in . or .. make: *** opengl: No such file or directory. Stop. make: *** guile: No such file or directory. Stop. [Rob-Cannings-Computer:~/desktop/pdp_pidip_osx/pdp_pidip_osx] robcanning% I'm sure i'm doing somthing stupid i just can't figure out what :-) where are these files and folders? when i stuffit expander decompressed the .tar.gz the following error came up: "...archive was compressed with an unknown compression method error 17535" (i tried downloading it a number of times) the uncompressed folder contains 13 items and is 1MB on disk. can anybody hep me with this? Thanks, Rob

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RE: [PD] pd 0.37.1 Windows installer release candidate
by Matthew Allen 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

there is no .pdrc for windows at this time. The only way to get libs loaded on windows is to run pd as a .bat file. m. -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-admin(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-admin@iem.at]On Behalf Of [·] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 5:49 AM To: cyrille henry Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd 0.37.1 Windows installer release candidate On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, cyrille henry wrote: > I'm on windows, I changed the pd.bat command line to load pmpd lib. > it's ok when I strat pd with this .bat > but when I double click on a pd file, the lib is not load. > so, what should I change, to add differents flag while double click on > pd file? if there's something like the .pdrc file in windos, i would use this. it works like a config file, to load libs and stuff and set parameters at startup. _______________________________________________ PD-list mailing list PD-list(a)iem.at http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list _________________________________________________ Scanned on 29 Mar 2004 13:53:30 Scanning by http://erado.com _________________________________________________ Scanned on 29 Mar 2004 16:26:43 Scanning by http://erado.com

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Re: PD-list digest, Vol 1 #1065 - 14 msgs
by Stefan Turner 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Hey, Any chance of some more info on how this might work? Would there be a new object to apply any transformation to vertex positions and colours, or would it be based on getting and setting arrays? I think both could be quite useful, with the 'transform-vertex' (or whatever) object being (presumably) more efficient and ok for simpler stuff, and arrays for anything more complicated. Sorry for all the questions, but this sounds just like what GEM is currently lacking (for my needs). Sorry if any of this has been answered: I haven't been able to find much about it. Cheers, Stefan Message: 14 To: timon botez <timon(a)sosolimited.com> Subject: Re: [PD] Gem .OBJ quest. Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 10:13:44 -0600 (CST) From: cgc(a)humboldtblvd.com Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at Hi Per vertex manipulation of models is not possible with the current version of GEM, but I have written a new way of rendering models and 3D objects that will allow exactly this. I was hoping to have it ready to go by the first of the year but that hasn't happened. Look for something in the next few months. cgc Quoting timon botez <timon(a)sosolimited.com>: > Halo, another Gem q. > Does anyone know if there is a way to access the polygons on a imported > > .obj file? > Im drying to distort a model over time and has no idea how to go about > > it. > > Any clues are welcome > HNY > > Timon. > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > ___________________________________________________________ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes

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how do i interact with pd without gui?
by Tim Blechmann 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

hi all, i recently got an old notebook (p2, 400mhz), i'd like to set up as a hard disk recorder ... i'd like to build a recording patch (wav / mp3 / ogg) and start it from the command line (i'd prefer not to run an x server on this machine) ... but how is it possible to interact with pd without the gui or some kind of midi device? is it possible to send messages to pd from the command line (maybe via netsend/recieve or osc) thnx... Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 -- The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!" Jack Kerouac

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PD/MAX files
by guillaume 01 Apr '04

01 Apr '04

Je n'arrive pas à ouvrir les fichiers au format max/msp dans Pd (ver 0.37.0) Quelqu'un peut-il m'aider?

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"mixed" cvs not compiling on OSX?
by James Tittle II 01 Apr '04

01 Apr '04

hiya, ...I'm trying to compile "miXed" externs from cvs, but ran into the following, and don't know what to do: can you point me in the right direction? Also, is there any special reason why it's still using gcc2, and not gcc3.3 (I'm on 10.3.3)? gcc2 -o ../../bin/sickle.pd_darwin -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -DUNIX -DMACOSX -I. -I../../../../pd-0.37-1/src -I../../shared -bundle -bundle_loader ../../../../pd-0.37-1/src/../bin/pd -flat_namespace ./allsickles.o ./abs.o ./acos.o ./acosh.o ./allpass.o ./asin.o ./asinh.o ./atan.o ./atan2.o ./atanh.o ./average.o ./avg.o ./bitand.o ./bitnot.o ./bitor.o ./bitshift.o ./bitxor.o ./buffir.o ./capture.o ./cartopol.o ./change.o ./click.o ./Clip.o ./comb.o ./cosh.o ./cosx.o ./count.o ./curve.o ./cycle.o ./delay.o ./delta.o ./deltaclip.o ./edge.o ./frameaccum.o ./framedelta.o ./index.o ./kink.o ./Line.o ./linedrive.o ./log.o ./lookup.o ./lores.o ./maximum.o ./minimum.o ./minmax.o ./mstosamps.o ./onepole.o ./peakamp.o ./peek.o ./phasewrap.o ./pink.o ./play.o ./poke.o ./poltocar.o ./pong.o ./pow.o ./rand.o ./rampsmooth.o ./record.o ./reson.o ./sah.o ./sampstoms.o ./Scope.o ./sinh.o ./sinx.o ./slide.o ./Snapshot.o ./spike.o ./svf.o ./tanh.o ./tanx.o ./train.o ./trapezoid.o ./triangle.o ./vectral.o ./wave.o ./zerox.o ../../shared/unstable/forky.o ../../shared/unstable/fragile.o ../../shared/unstable/fringe.o ../../shared/common/loud.o ../../shared/common/grow.o ../../shared/common/vefl.o ../../shared/common/binport.o ../../shared/common/port.o ../../shared/hammer/file.o ../../shared/sickle/sic.o ../../shared/sickle/arsic.o sickle.c ERROR: empty file setup.wiq... removed transferring widget definitions from "../test/toxy/setup.wid" to "setup.wiq" sed: 1: "1i// Do not edit this f ...": command i expects \ followed by text make[1]: *** [setup.wiq] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 tiggity:~/puredataDev/externals/mixed tigital$ thanx, jamie

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RE: [PD] Buying PCs for PD: Quantity or Quality
by Ian Smith-Heisters 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

These are exactly the issues I was wondering about. > eg: if you need very low latency, you probably will have to use one > single computer > eg: if you need to tightly sync your output(s), you will probably have > to use > one single computer. So you've answered some of my questions despite yourself: > your question can't be answered seriously without an idea of the > project you are > trying to do: I can't give an accurate portrait of the project because it will be a workshopped piece that won't have a final form (the performance itself may not be 'final'). A few things I do know is that the same system will have to be used with a traditional performance, (eg. dancers triggering sensors in a more or less predictable manner) and also for an installation piece right afterward in which the audience will be triggering reactions via sensors in a more unpredictable way. Extremely low latency will not be an issue. I won't be doing stereoscopic imagery or anything like that, and I assume that the speed of a (wireless?) ethernet network will synchronize actions sufficiently. I'd really be interested just to hear about things people have done in the past, and what kind of computer power they found they needed. > in other cases it might be sufficient to use several pcs, which could > be more > fun, because for *most* things you will not need full calculation power > of all > the computers - so you can split your setting and run e.g. 3 different > installations/measurements/whatever at the same time. Does having several computers give any actual power benefit over one behemoth. Here it sounds like the main advantage would be organization; getting different elements into discrete places for easier management. Performance wise, how would it compare to run GEM doing (for example) two 3D animations, one using video capture from a webcam on an AMD Barton 2.2GHz (XP3200+) with a gig of ram and an ATI 9800 to running the animations on two separate Intel Celeron 2.0 GHz w/ 256 MB Ram and an onboard video controller? (These systems are quick looks at the kind of stuff I might end up with, 6 months from now I'm sure my money will get me a lot further, but GEM will also do fancier stuff and need more power). > all of them. > as for noise: not only the fans are important, but you should also > consider a > sound-absorbing interior and air-flow optimization. > > the unfortunate thing is, that silent machines tend to be big and > heavy. What situations have you found noise to be a big problem in, and in what situations has it been more important to have small form factor (as the two seem to be mutually exclusive). Are there any unobvious advantages to SFF and low-noise other than the obvious portability, hide-ability and, well, low noise? eg. have you ever had problems with loud machines interfering with microphones? Of course, that's a lot of nitpicky stuff, and you may have better things to do than answer it all, so don't sweat it; you've already been a great help. Thanks, Ian Smith-Heisters > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [PD] Buying PCs for PD: Quantity or Quality > From: zmoelnig(a)iem.at > Date: Tue, March 30, 2004 11:09 pm > To: "Ian Smith-Heisters" <heisters(a)0x09.com> > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > > Zitiere Ian Smith-Heisters <heisters(a)0x09.com>: > > hi. > your question can't be answered seriously without an idea of the > project you are > trying to do: > eg: if you need very low latency, you probably will have to use one > single computer > eg: if you need to tightly sync your output(s), you will probably have > to use > one single computer. > > in other cases it might be sufficient to use several pcs, which could > be more > fun, because for *most* things you will not need full calculation power > of all > the computers - so you can split your setting and run e.g. 3 different > installations/measurements/whatever at the same time. > > as for Gem: > putting several gfx-cards (e.g: 1xAGP, 1xPCI) into one single computer > *should* > work (at least nvidia says it does) - but i have never tried it : i've > never > needed more than 2 parallel screens. > again: if you need your outputs tightly in sync (eg: you want to do one > big > contiguous image or some stereo-image with polarization) than i don't > think that > using several computers that do the actual rendering is a good idea. > > > > > Are there any other things y'all have found useful? Extra quiet > fans? > > Small form factor? > > > all of them. > as for noise: not only the fans are important, but you should also > consider a > sound-absorbing interior and air-flow optimization. > > the unfortunate thing is, that silent machines tend to be big and > heavy. > > mfg.ar > IOhannes > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list

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pdp_text [dynamic input]
by sara＠x-i.net 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

Hi, I'm having a problem with getting the text object running properly. I installed the font according Yves install notes, but when i try to use the text_help patch, it gives me only small rectangles instead of letters. Also; we're trying to use dynamic text input via netreceive, but it doesn't seem to work: pdp_text : add : wrong arguments Is it actually possible to get dynamic text in the pdp_text object? Thanks, Sara _______________________________________________ PD-list mailing list PD-list(a)iem.at http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list

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DV_input
by sara＠x-i.net 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

Hi, I'm trying to get a live DV input running in PDP, which is working out, but i tend to get horizontal stripes in my footage. I don't know if this is a regular problem, but i'm curious if others noticed this as well. (OSX.3) Also, I would like to superimpose text (live) on a live DV input. Which object would be the best to use for that? Thanks already, Sara

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A couple data conversions
by doniguan＠stny.rr.com 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

Is there a way to convert the volume numbers of 0-100 to decibles, -99 to +12? Is there a way to convert midi data to mouse pointer data? Specifically, i was messign around with scratcher~ today, real neat object, but it can only be controlled by the mouse. Is there a way to control it with like my midi wheels? Thanks -AP

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