Pd-list January 2004

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Re: [PD] trouble with fluid~ external
by Frank Barknecht 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

Hallo, Daniel Hawthorn hat gesagt: // Daniel Hawthorn wrote: > I tried all suggestions, and finally ended up recompiling libfluidsynth > to get it to work. However, now "add_history" is coming up as an > undefined symbol when I attempt to instantiate a fluid~ object. Any > ideas on that one? That's a similar problem, this time it's libreadline. I do link libreadline in the Makefile ("-lreadline") and normally this is enough to let fluid~ be happy. If you built libfluidsynth without readline, then remove -lreadline from fluid~'s makefile. Of course, readline isn't needed for the fluid~ external, so if all else fails, you could recompile libfluidsynth again (sorry), now without readline. While you're at it, make sure you also disable libfluidsynth's LADSPA support, because this is buggy in libfluidsynth and the bug leads to a Pd crash in certain circumstances (for example on my machine). ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__

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trouble with fluid~ external
by Daniel Hawthorn 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

Hi all, I've successfully compiled the fluid~ external for PD linux. But, when I try to instantiate it, I get the following on the terminal: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/fluid~.pd_linux: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/fluid~.pd_linux: undefined symbol: cca_alsa_client_id fluid~ ... couldn't create Any ideas? -Daniel

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[Fwd: Re: [PD] internet collaboration graphics]
by noskule 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

i'm working on a project to make colaborative music. The main thing is a patch witch uses gem to visualise the colaboration in a 2d window. Each user is representet by a colored dot and his name as his avantar. Around the dot is a in its size variable net witch represents the influents of the user. With a cursor each user defines "his" position an so the influence of the other users to his instrument in realtime. The positions between the avantars interpolates the variables. the pach sends all the data to a pdserverpatch. So there can be any number of users (theoreticly). the mainproblem is how to make a userfrendly pach, so that not every user have do deal with every variablename ip and so on (route cant be set be setmessage ore inlet ime). . . .. . i attaches a pach witch shows the gem gui and the colaborationpatch . ..its work in progress . .dont expect a finished working patch . .. the secound thing i try to implement is panning the sounds betwean the loudspeakers . . .. . nos matthew shanley wrote: > hi list, > > i'm starting up a new project involving internet collaboration on live > performances of music and video. i have a concept in mind that might > work with this, and i'd like to hear if people who know more about > these sorts of things think it might be feasible and if i should spend > time learning enough to be able to pull it off. > > the project i'm imagining would work with a patch that each end of the > collaboration had an identical copy of (as well as any samples or > anything). no when you are performing with the patch, a change you > make to a variable will be changed at your end, and also sent (via osc > or something) to the other end and change the same variable there. if > effect this would be two people in remote locations controlling the > same interface at the same time. > > now, the idea i've been toying with involves how to make it more > apparent what your cohort on the other end is doing. i would want to > make it so that whenever he altered a value, the slider/checkbox/etc > on your end would not only change to his value, but also change to a > certain color (or maybe a canvas object behind the control object > would change color) and then slowly fade back to the normal color over > time. i imagine this to be a little like the "track changes" feature > on your favorite word processor, but with the added bonus that you > could get an idea of the timeline of his fiddlings as well. > > so to people with experience in the graphical programming behind Pd: > is this something that might be feasible? should i spend time learning > the necessary background to make it happen, or is it something that > just can't be done with the way things are now and i shouldn't even > waste my time? thanks for any advice you can give me, and sorry for > the length. > > > matt > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > >

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Drawing flat lines in 3D space using Gem
by Leif Krinkle 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

Is there a way to draw flat lines in 3D space that connect two coordinates or expand out from one starting point using Gem? Leif

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RE: [PD] writesf~ bug?
by Jorge Cardoso 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Miller Puckette [mailto:mpuckett@man104-1.ucsd.edu] > Sent: sábado, 17 de Janeiro de 2004 23:30 > To: Jorge Cardoso > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] writesf~ bug? > > > THanks... no, nobody I know uses next/sun format, but I'll go and put > in your fixes, thanks. > > Rather than forcing .au to little-endian, I found and fixed > the bug that > made the "-little" flag not work. Actually, I think that these flags should not exist. I believe that the .au files have to be in big-endian format (the file has to be encoded the same way whether you're working in big-endian machine or in a little-endian one, otherwise the file format would not be portable... In any case, the flag fix will already enable to write the file properly, by using the -big flag so..., thanks :) Bye, jc --- Jorge Cardoso <-> jorgecardoso(a)ieee.org "Whether you believe you can, or whether you believe you can't, you're absolutely right." - Henry Ford

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internet collaboration graphics
by matthew shanley 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

hi list, i'm starting up a new project involving internet collaboration on live performances of music and video. i have a concept in mind that might work with this, and i'd like to hear if people who know more about these sorts of things think it might be feasible and if i should spend time learning enough to be able to pull it off. the project i'm imagining would work with a patch that each end of the collaboration had an identical copy of (as well as any samples or anything). no when you are performing with the patch, a change you make to a variable will be changed at your end, and also sent (via osc or something) to the other end and change the same variable there. if effect this would be two people in remote locations controlling the same interface at the same time. now, the idea i've been toying with involves how to make it more apparent what your cohort on the other end is doing. i would want to make it so that whenever he altered a value, the slider/checkbox/etc on your end would not only change to his value, but also change to a certain color (or maybe a canvas object behind the control object would change color) and then slowly fade back to the normal color over time. i imagine this to be a little like the "track changes" feature on your favorite word processor, but with the added bonus that you could get an idea of the timeline of his fiddlings as well. so to people with experience in the graphical programming behind Pd: is this something that might be feasible? should i spend time learning the necessary background to make it happen, or is it something that just can't be done with the way things are now and i shouldn't even waste my time? thanks for any advice you can give me, and sorry for the length. matt

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RE: [PD] internet collaboration graphics
by Adrian deCleir 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

at the moment Im doing a project where people can jam music over the internet using midi, Im not exactly far into it at the moment but what I do have successfully set up is the ability for 2 people to play together no matter where they are, all they need do is fill in the right ip address of the other person, Im using netsend and netrecieve, Ive the ablity to change volume and pitch at the moment, and it all changes in the other persons computer, big broblem Im coming across is I need to figure out a way of getting more than 2 people doing it withouth having to put in a load of objects for each person(volume,instrument, pitch, effects, etc). I dunno if this is the kinda thing you were talking about, I hope you get it going, maybe Ill be able to get a few tips from you, as I am a very inexperienced pd user -----Original Message----- From: matthew shanley [mailto:mshanley@alum.rpi.edu] Sent: 19 January 2004 02:44 To: pd-list Subject: [PD] internet collaboration graphics hi list, i'm starting up a new project involving internet collaboration on live performances of music and video. i have a concept in mind that might work with this, and i'd like to hear if people who know more about these sorts of things think it might be feasible and if i should spend time learning enough to be able to pull it off. the project i'm imagining would work with a patch that each end of the collaboration had an identical copy of (as well as any samples or anything). no when you are performing with the patch, a change you make to a variable will be changed at your end, and also sent (via osc or something) to the other end and change the same variable there. if effect this would be two people in remote locations controlling the same interface at the same time. now, the idea i've been toying with involves how to make it more apparent what your cohort on the other end is doing. i would want to make it so that whenever he altered a value, the slider/checkbox/etc on your end would not only change to his value, but also change to a certain color (or maybe a canvas object behind the control object would change color) and then slowly fade back to the normal color over time. i imagine this to be a little like the "track changes" feature on your favorite word processor, but with the added bonus that you could get an idea of the timeline of his fiddlings as well. so to people with experience in the graphical programming behind Pd: is this something that might be feasible? should i spend time learning the necessary background to make it happen, or is it something that just can't be done with the way things are now and i shouldn't even waste my time? thanks for any advice you can give me, and sorry for the length. matt _______________________________________________ PD-list mailing list PD-list(a)iem.at http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list

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adc
by natacha Roussel 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

Hello list Someone might help on this I have an audio program using adc that works perfectly on my desktop although when I pass it to my laptop It looks for ûnoadc in the bin directory and doesnt find it + I get no audio out so what is ûnoadc and where can I get it Thanks Natacha

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linux .pdrc/cli args inconsistency
by t.barrass＠pgrad.unimelb.edu.au 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

Hope I'm not repeating something here, but this seems strange and new: In pd37.1-test3, .pdrc audiodev numbers now have to be 2 greater than the /dev/dsp device I want, eg. to open /dev/dsp0 I have to use -audiodev 2, while from the command line it still only has to be 1 greater than the device number Slightly confusing, that's all Tim

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problem after compiling PD
by Paolo Rudelli 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

Hallo i compiled PD 0.37 under fresh install redhat 9.0 after make install( under root whit su ) and launch pd i have this error : [root@212 src]# pd /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ok i know is the tcl libraty i try to recompile tcl8.45 but i have the same problem i made some mistake ??? help please Ciao PR

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