Pd-list September 2003

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Pd with Mbox
by Mitchell Turner 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Pd list, Has anyone figured out how to use PD with the newest Mbox drivers? I recently downloaded the newest coreaudio driver from Digidesign (ver. 6.1.1). I know that there is a Digi Audio setup application in which you tell the digi coreaudio driver which applications can have access to the coreaudio driver. (I had to put Max in the list). How does one do this with an application run from Terminal? I'm stuck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. PD worked great with the last digi driver (vers. 1.2). I hope this new driver will play nicely. Thanks in advance, Mitch Mitchell Turner, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Music LaGrange College 601 Broad Street LaGrange, GA 30240 USA Office: 706-880-8015 FAX: 706-880-8028 mturner(a)lagrange.edu http://mmturner.home.mindspring.com

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netclient/netserver mangling messages
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

I am using netserver/netclient to send list of info that has been converted to a symbol using [list2symbol]. Somewhere in the process, some of the messages get chopped up at seemingly random points. The examples below only break at spaces, but sometimes it will break in the middle of the first work (i.e. mo tion). I think the problem is on the [netclient] end because sometimes, one computer will work fine, and the other will chop up the messages. The patches are attached. They use Krzysztof Czaja's [tot] and zexy's [list2symbol]. Output from [netclient] (error messages preceed problem here): error: Bad arguments for message 'motion' to object 'canvas' NETCLIENT: motion 107 1 error: canvas: no method for 'float' NETCLIENT: 87 0 NETCLIENT: motion 111 191 0 NETCLIENT: motion 114 191 0 error: Bad arguments for message 'motion' to object 'canvas' NETCLIENT: motion 114 190 error: canvas: no method for 'float' NETCLIENT: 0 NETCLIENT: motion 114 189 0 NETCLIENT: key 1 98 0 NETCLIENT: key 0 98 0 NETCLIENT: key 1 110 0 NETCLIENT: key 0 110 0 NETCLIENT: key 1 error: canvas: no method for 'float' NETCLIENT: 103 0 NETCLIENT: key 0 103 0 bn ... couldn't create NETCLIENT: mouse 114 189 1 0 NETCLIENT: motion 115 189 0 NETCLIENT: mouseup 115 189 1 NETCLIENT: motion 115 188 0 NETCLIENT: motion 117 187 0 NETCLIENT: motion 119 187 0 error: Bad arguments for message 'motion' to object 'canvas' NETCLIENT: motion 120 187 error: canvas: no method for 'float' NETCLIENT: 0 NETCLIENT: motion 119 187 0 NETCLIENT: motion 118 187 0 NETCLIENT: motion 108 185 0 NETCLIENT: motion 96 183 0 NETCLIENT: motion 63 179 0 NETCLIENT: motion 21 181 0 Input into [netserver]: print: broadcast motion 107 187 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 111 191 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 114 191 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 114 190 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 114 189 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast key 1 98 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast key 0 98 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast key 1 110 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast key 0 110 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast key 1 103 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast key 0 103 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast mouse 114 189 1 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 115 189 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast mouseup 115 189 1 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 115 188 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 117 187 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 119 187 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 120 187 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 119 187 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 118 187 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 108 185 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 96 183 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 63 179 0 netserver: sending data to client 2 on socket 9 netserver: sending data to client 1 on socket 8 print: broadcast motion 21 181 0 http://at.or.at/hans/

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Spatialisation tools for pd ?
by J ! J ! 30 Sep '03

30 Sep '03

Hello, I would like to know if there was some tools like spat~ or Holophon for PureData ? All the best Jean Jacques

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Problems with fluid~
by Vincent 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

[third try to send a question to the mailinglist, hope it will let me ask as a member :-)] Hello. I got a compiled version of the fluid-external at <http://www.audionerd.com/> http://www.audionerd.com. When i try to run pd with fluid~-external it says: ------------------------------------------------ Load_object: Symbol "fluidsynth_setup" not found ../../libs/fluidsynth: can' load library. ------------------------------------------------ The includeded patch fluid.pd runs but doesn't make any sounds. Next I tried to compile fluid by myself - i am a absolut newbie in c & c++. After the compiler told me that he can't fluidsynth i downloaded a copy of the original fluidsynth at: <http://savannah.nongnu.org/files/?group=fluid> http://savannah.nongnu.org/files/?group=fluid This time the compiler wants the fluidsynth.lib. This file isn't included in the fluidsynth-package! Like i said - i am a total newbie and a little bit frustrated. I am using PD v0.37 & flext 0.4.2 on a Windows XP computer. Any tipps what i have to do? Has somebody got a working compiled version of fluid for windows? Thanks Vince

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oggcast~ streaming on Debian
by Frank Barknecht 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

Hallo, I'm trying to get ogg streaming from Pd working on Debian. Icecast2 is installed and also is functioning at least using ices2 as streamer. But I cannot get Olaf's oggcast~ in the version of the pd-externals ("ogg/vorbis streaming client version 0.2h") package to connect to the server. I'm setting the correct password but still connecting doesn't work. using the help-oggcast~.pd file, Pd reports on attempted "connect localhost 8000": oggcast~: ogg/vorbis streaming client version 0.2g, written by Olaf Matthes oggcast~: set buffer to 512k bytes oggcast~: encoding 2 channels @ 44100 Hz oggcast~: connecting to port 8000 oggcast~: logging in to IceCast2 server... oggcast~: logged in to http://127.0.0.1:8000/puredata.ogg Pd: signal 13 error: oggcast~: could not send ogg body to server (-1) oggcast~: could not init encoder oggcast~: connection closed oggcast~: connection closed due to initialisation error And in icecast2's error.log I get: [2003-09-13 14:32:24] INFO connection/_handle_source_request Source logging in at mountpoint "/pure data.ogg" [2003-09-13 14:32:24] INFO connection/_handle_source_request Source (/puredata.ogg) attempted to lo gin with invalid or missing password In access.log I have: 127.0.0.1 - - [13/Sep/2003:14:33:31 +0200] "SOURCE /puredata.ogg ICE/1.0" 401 115 "-" "-" 0 which is a bit strange: when using ices2 I do not get a message like this from the ices client, I only get it when using alsaplayer to listen to the ices2 stream. I made totally sure that the password is indeed correct by double and triple checking. Anyone has an idea what else could be wrong here? ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__

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Novice query: qlist
by Richard Bowers 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

I'm having trouble working out how to use qlist. I find the help file a bit puzzling. What I'm looking for a way to output a timed sequence of MIDI events in response to a bang. Is qlist the way to go and, if so, how do I go about it? Any help will be appreciated. --Richard Bowers.

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gem, pix_video question
by patrick 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

hi, i have a wintv and it works fine with pdp. but i cannot use it with gem : * starting transfer cap: name BT878(Hauppauge (bt878)) type 235 channels 4 maxw 768 maxh 480 minw 48 minh 32 picture: brightness 32768 depth 0 palette 4 channel 0 name Television type 1 flags 3 channel 1 name Composite1 type 2 flags 2 channel 2 name S-Video type 2 flags 2 channel 3 name Composite3 type 2 flags 2 setting to channel 1 buffer size 8519680, frames 4, offset 0 2129920 wanted format is 0x1908 setting cmcapture to 64x64 5 frame 0 0, format 5, width 64, height 64 GEM: pix_video: Opened video connection C vmmap 8140840 VIDIOCSYNC: Invalid argument * from /04.video/00.SimpleVideo.pd also, i did try the ieee1394 (from cvs) with [driver 1> : pix_videoNEW: starting transfer /dev/ieee1394/dv/host0/NTSC/in: No such file or directory closed patrick

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Re: [PD] PD Mac OS X installers
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

(I am CC'ing the list because your message has useful info) This current install on my pure-data.org page has a version of GEM optimized for G4 in it already. To enable it, you need to add this line to your ~/.pdrc: -lib Gem There are a few other libs which are included in this install. To use them, you need: -lib iemlib1 -lib iemlib2 -lib iem_mp3 -lib iem_t3_lib -lib pdp -lib zexy For GEM and PDP, you'll need to install a number of libraries as well. I use http://Fink.sf.net to install them. If you have fink installed already, running this command will install everything you need: sudo apt-get install glut glut-shlibs gsl-shlibs libpng-shlibs libpng3 libpng3-shlibs libquicktime0-shlibs libmpeg libmpeg-shlibs ffmpeg -Hans On Monday, Sep 29, 2003, at 06:34 America/New_York, Dupras, Martin wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Thanks for getting back to me. I did get it all running in > the end. > > What I ended up was de-install everything, and log in as > root before doing the install; I think that before that I > was a normal user but had entered the root password during > installation instead. In any case, it's now all working > fine. > > Many thanks on a great installer. Do you have any plans of > making an installer that would also install Gem? That would > be immensely useful for us. Just a thought. > > Cheers, > > - martin > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:01:56 -0400 Hans-Christoph Steiner > <hans(a)eds.org> wrote: > >> >> What version of MacOS X are you running? >> >> .hc >> >> On Wednesday, Sep 24, 2003, at 15:34 America/New_York, Martin Dupras >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Hans, >>> >>> Thanks for your reply. I don't have the computer at the moment so I'm >>> doing this from memory. >>> >>> At first I tried your installer and chose the default location. >>> Everything somehow managed to install itself in the Applications >>> folder, >>> so I had Applications/bin, Applications/doc, etc, and >>> Applications/usr/local/bin and so on. After that I tried installing >>> into >>> a brand new Applications/pd0.37 folder. Somehow this didn't appear in >>> the installer (it let me choose it though), but that installed in >>> there, >>> but once again with the strange dir structure as above. >>> >>> I'm not quite sure what is going on there, I'll have another look >>> tomorrow. It looks to me like that for some reason the install >>> doesn't >>> see /usr/local, but I don't know why that is. >>> >>> I'll try de-installing everything and reinstalling from scratch >>> tomorrow. Do you advise that I should specify /usr/local/pd as a >>> destination, or something else? >>> >>> Many thanks! >>> >>> - martin >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:hans@eds.org] >>> Sent: 24 September 2003 20:18 >>> To: Martin Dupras >>> Cc: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at >>> Subject: Re: [PD] PD Mac OS X installers >>> >>> >>> My Pd installer is definitely beta. I have only tested it on two >>> computers personally. So let's figure out what the problem is so I >>> can >>> fix the installer. >>> >>> >>> First question: did you change the install location or did you leave >>> it >>> as >>> default? >>> >>> >>> It should install Pd into: >>> /usr/local/bin >>> /usr/local/lib/pd >>> >>> CVS externals into: >>> /usr/local/lib/pd/extra >>> /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/5.reference >>> >>> And the Pd.command GUI launcher into: >>> /Applications >>> >>> >>> Are most of the files installed there? Where else are they >>> installed? >>> >>> Also, I don't know if things will work right if you have both Adam's >>> and >>> my installers installed. You can use OSXPM to uninstall packages. >>> You >>> can get OSXPM >>> here: ftp://us.osxgnu.org/pub/osxgnu/OSXPM/OSXPackageManager.sit >>> >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Martin Dupras wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm teaching PD this semester and because our labs are mostly G4, >>>> I'm >>>> trying to install PD on OS X. >>>> >>>> I tried installing both Hans's new installer and Adam's installer. >>>> In >>>> both cases some things work OK, but things get installed in very >>> strange >>>> places. A lot of libs and docs end up in places like >>>> Applications/pd0.37/usr/local, but also in the pd folder, etc. >>>> >>>> I have a feeling that being relatively unfamiliar with Mac OS X I am >>> not >>>> understanding completely where things should go. Does anyone have >>>> any >>>> advice? >>>> >>>> Basically what I'm after is having a pd directory that contains all >>> the >>>> pd items, e.g. abstractions, lib, doc, bin, externals, and to have a >>>> script that launches pd and the appropriate libraries and paths >>> relative >>>> to that folder (rather than absolute paths.) >>>> >>>> Many thanks! >>>> >>>> - martin >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PD-list mailing list >>>> PD-list(a)iem.at >>>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>> >>> zen >>> \ >>> \ >>> \[D[D[D[D >>> >>> >>> >>> This incoming email to UWE has been independently scanned for viruses >>> and any virus detected has been removed using McAfee anti-virus >>> software >>> >>> >>> >> >> http://at.or.at/hans/ >> >> >> >> >> This incoming email to UWE has been independently scanned for viruses >> and any virus detected has been removed using McAfee anti-virus >> software >> >> > > > http://at.or.at/hans/ ________________________________________________________________________ ____ Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. 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Canvas size changes when a patch is opened and closed
by David NG McCallum 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

All, Has anyone noticed that when you reopen sub-patch that it's size changes by about 2 pixels in the x and y lengths? Is this a known issue? David -- . . David McCallum . Music wants to be free . http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta .

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OS X device error/no audio stream
by Christian Klotz 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

Hi, Trying installing pd and get it to run under mac os x I still dont get the audio to work. After typing pd in the terminal pd appears but at the command line the following error msg come up: Error number -9997 occured opening portaudio stream Error message: Invalid device ID. I also tried to start it by using /pd -nomidi -audiooutdev 1 but still the same. In the audio setup menu the built in audio device is selected. It is a G4 DP 800 machine. Thx, Christian

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Pd-list September 2003