Pd-list September 2003

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Re: [PD] distributing messages to several inlets
by CK 12 Sep '03

12 Sep '03

I read: > So if you draw the connection to the left inlet before the connection to the > right inlet, also in your abstraction the message will be sent to the left > inlet before the right. I don't think that's what he was asking, > > In pd this is not possible, so i wondered if this is because the > > connections would be unreliable in execution(the old "not specificated > > execution order" case) ? as marius pointed out the execution order is specified for now, but the model may change so, don't rely on it use triggers, but I don't see why the multiple connections in one go should be a problem. Since you will specify the inlets in a certain order (even using a modifier key) that could be used to order the multiple connects. Sounds definitely like a nice feature to me. regards, x -- chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)

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data types i guess
by niels wolf 12 Sep '03

12 Sep '03

hi list. i was wondering over some errors i have. i use the qlist object and the add messenger in a subpatch. somehow add gets confused using inlets/$. it worked fine with static data typed into the add-message but using the variables it seems to get irritated with different data types (number/symbol) given to the subpatch. like expecting the one getting the other. did anybody faced this problem? knows whats going on? n

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Re: [PD] 0.37 must 'Cut' cables?
by CK 12 Sep '03

12 Sep '03

I read: > Edward George schrieb: > > However, I don't have any alternatives to offer other than maybe wires not > > being selectable at all unless you hold down a modifier key which then > > allows you to delete wires with a single click.?!!! > > ...but then you run the risk to delete the wrong patch cord in > overcrowded patches. I like it as it is now because I can see whether I I don't find this a completely bad idea, and if you're patches are that 'overcorded' you might consider cleaning them up a bit ;) regards, x -- chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)

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RE: [PD] 0.37 must 'Cut' cables?
by Edward George 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

> hold down a modifier key Hmmm, though this wouldn't be obvious to users who didn't already know this. Guess, that's why I didn't really suggest it as an alternative:) Ed -----Original Message----- From: Edward George [mailto:ed@suppose.co.uk] Sent: 11 September 2003 21:11 To: 'pd-list(a)iem.at' Subject: RE: [PD] 0.37 must 'Cut' cables? [My thoughts, possibly a little late now, on the issue:] I find it annoying that the icon is still an X. Typically this suggests that this is a cut function and not at all a select function. Also, the act of selection when the only action possibly is 'delete' does seem redundant_ obviously accidental deletion is undesirable too, but the semantics of the current UI situation seem slightly off! However, I don't have any alternatives to offer other than maybe wires not being selectable at all unless you hold down a modifier key which then allows you to delete wires with a single click.?!!! Ed. -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-admin(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-admin@iem.at] On Behalf Of Ben Saylor Sent: 10 September 2003 22:29 To: pd-list(a)iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] 0.37 must 'Cut' cables? This feature is helpful, but it also slows down patch editing a bit. I wonder if it would be better to disconnect on click, but turn the cable a bright color (like red) when the mouse is over it. Undo would still be there to fix accidents. Ben On Tuesday 09 September 2003 11:53 am, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > > Greg Hazel hat gesagt: // Greg Hazel wrote: > > Seems like in 0.37 the X cursor does not delete cables - I'm forced > > to click on them, then select 'Cut' from the Edit menu. Is this by > > design? > > Yes, but you can also use the Backspace or Delete keys. It was > introduced to make accidental disconnects harder. I think, you will > get used to it... > > ciao _______________________________________________ PD-list mailing list PD-list(a)iem.at http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list

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TexImage2D non rectangle
by marius schebella 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

hi, sorry for so many questions concerning Gem... How can I stop the console from telling me "TexImage2D non rectangle"? I tried pix_resize, or has this something to do with my OpenGL driver??? I get this message with many operations. (pix_texture, pix_texture2...). thnx for your patience. marius.

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[PD]cyclone record~
by tdunstan＠ihug.com.au 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

hi listening listers. has anybody experienced a big fat pop/click at the start of the buffer when using the record object from cyclone. it happens when i use both the append an drecord loop functions. i can't seem to find a simple way round it. thanmks tom.

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pix_videoDS
by marius schebella 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Hi, which messages can I use to communicate to pix_videoDS? (I downloaded the latest CVS-version from Aug 9 from bogusfront.org for Windows). I tried [dimen 160 120(, but that does not seem to have an effect. Is it possible to switch the resolution other than with the [dialog format(? My camera always starts with the default values of 320*240. marius.

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Re:[PD] installer 0.37 for X
by afenerich 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Hy Hans, I had the same problem, using the same installer... But it loaded the "wish" programme, and cannot load PD... it stopped in the "Wish" step... Well, thank you Alx > hi again > 1 more question > tried to download the mac os x installer of 0.37 from > http://www.pure-data.org/Members/hans/ > but didn't work . > any hint? hans? > i get a package on my desktop but can't install it or m ake it work > whatsoever > thankyou > b > > _______________________________________________________ __________ > MSN 8 with e- mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > __________________________________________________________________________ Acabe com aquelas janelinhas que pulam na sua tela. AntiPop-up UOL - É grátis! http://antipopup.uol.com.br/

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Re: [PD] compiling GUI externals in pd-0.37-test11
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 11 Sep '03

11 Sep '03

Now that makes much more sense, actually fixing the problem! :) I hadn't gotten past just getting them to compile. This actually fixes the problem and allows them to compile with older version of Pd as well: #if PD_MINOR_VERSION < 37 || !defined(PD_MINOR_VERSION) probalizer_widgetbehavior.w_propertiesfn = probalizer_properties; probalizer_widgetbehavior.w_savefn = probalizer_save; #else class_setsavefn(probalizer_class, &probalizer_save); class_setpropertiesfn(probalizer_class, &probalizer_properties); #endif .hc On Wednesday, Sep 10, 2003, at 13:54 America/New_York, MIrko Petrovich wrote: > Thanks for your help > > reading pd/src/notes.txt > > > test 7: > > ... > > savefunction and dialog into class structure > > so I added this : > > class_setsavefn(probalizer_class, &probalizer_save); > class_setpropertiesfn(probalizer_class, &probalizer_properties); > > Now, it seems to work > > Mirko Petrovich > CL > > > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >> Apparently, those struct members have been removed in 0.37. I fixed >> it by doing this: >> >> #if PD_MAJOR_VERSION == 0 >> #if PD_MINOR_VERSION < 37 || !defined(PD_MINOR_VERSION) >> probalizer_widgetbehavior.w_propertiesfn = probalizer_properties; >> probalizer_widgetbehavior.w_savefn = probalizer_save; >> #endif >> #endif >> >> >> .hc >> >> On Tuesday, Sep 9, 2003, at 12:47 America/New_York, MIrko Petrovich >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm trying to compile some GUI externals in pd-0.37-test11 and I'm >>> getting the following errors: >>> >>> ... structure has no member named `w_propertiesfn' >>> ... structure has no member named `w_savefn' >>> >>> This was after adding #include "m_pd.h" to m_imp.h >>> >>> GUI objects compiled with pd-0.36 are working in 0.37-test11 but I'm >>> not able to open the properties dialog. >>> Should I wait for new versions of the externals or it's just a >>> temporal incompatibility issue ? >>> Maybe it's time to practice C ;) >>> >>> Thanks for your time. >>> >>> Mirko Petrovich >>> CL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PD-list mailing list >>> PD-list(a)iem.at >>> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> > >

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cannot acces help-folders
by marius schebella 10 Sep '03

10 Sep '03

Hi, hmm, I cannot access my help-folders for Gem and zexy anymore. I use the 0.37 test11 version on WinXP and isntalled Pd on drive D:\Pd. When I click the help of an object then I get "sorry, couldn't find help for "zexy/sigbinops+"". Someone has similar problems? Marius.

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