Pd-list August 2003

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Calling pD users everywhere. A brief 10mins of your time?
by Glen Oglethorpe 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Dear pD users and boffins (particularly the boffins!), My name is Glen Oglethorpe, I think my name has popped up @ least once or twice on these mailing lists. I am in a bit of a fix. Basically my degree is pending on extra work I must submit for my Individual Project (or thesis, or dissertation - whatever u want to call it!). The extra work takes the form of a tutorial I must write to explain how to use the 'product' I created using pD; which is a 16-step midi sequencer I created to gain real-time controllability over MIDI sound modules; with specific emphasis on electro-acoustic composition. The sequencer is based around an "fselector" patch designed originally by Frank Barknecht, and has a few teething problems. If any volunteers could have a look @ the sequencer to give feed back (or dissect the code) I would be infinitely indebted to them. I am trying to gain a contrast between new users, as well as the hardened pros (ie the mailing list users); so I am currently spreading the word about pD with electronic musicians in the UK - if that carries any favor(?!?) It's literally 'five minutes to midnight' This is (Is this) my last hope? =/ All I ask is for you to email me asking for your copy, which I will dispatch; then simply load it - have mess about with it to see what you can come up with, and supply some feedback. g_oglethorpe(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

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3D coord and you...
by pdman 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Hello PD Listers! Firstly I want to thank everyone who has helped me/us in the past. This list is verry helpful and once I begin to get my footing in PD I hope to return the favor some time... My question is this. I want to place nodes in two (or possably three) theoritical dementions. Around these nodes is a sphere od variable radius. If my controll node enters one of these spheres the node which owns the sphere returns a number corresponding to the distance the controll node is to the center of the sphere. If the Controll node is at the origion of the sphere the sphere-node returns one, if the controll node is outside of the sphere the controll nodes returns 0. Does such a tool exist or do I have to write one? It should be farely simple to write. [sphere~ (rad)] -> takes at its left input the controll coordinates and at the right input the radius, and returns (x2+y2+z2)/r2 if (x2+y2+z2)<r2, else 0 (at the signal rate). Oh, perhaps three inputs, the middle being the origin of the sphere... I hope you understand my muddled thinking, and thanks for your time. -the wade

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[Fwd: Re: Reading loop points for susloop~]
by Søren Bovbjerg 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Hi List I was wondering. Is there any PD external that can read loop points from a wavefile? Should I try to extend soundfiler to be able to parse the smpl header? I suggest a second output that outputs a list of sampler information like MIDI key, fine tuning and first sample loop and loop direction. Other suggestions or comments? Cheers Soeren >Hm.. that would be pretty useful, but I don't know of any externals for >that. Maybe you could ask pd-list. Seems like extending soundfiler >would be a good way to do it. > >Regards, >Ben > >On Sunday 10 August 2003 4:07 am, you wrote: >> Hi Ben, >> >> I just discovered your susloop~ external which I think is great. I >> was wondering if you know of any method (external) that can extract >> the MIDI note and loop information out of a wave file, for instance >> by parsing the "smpl" header which is commonly used by various wave >> editors. >> >> See http://www.sonicspot.com/guide/wavefiles.html for details on >> headers. >> >> Take care

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Calling pD users everywhere. A brief 10mins of your time?
by Glen Oglethorpe 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Dear pD users and boffins (particularly the boffins!), My name is Glen Oglethorpe, I think my name has popped up @ least once or twice on these mailing lists. I am in a bit of a fix. Basically my degree is pending on extra work I must submit for my Individual Project (or thesis, or dissertation - whatever u want to call it!). The extra work takes the form of a tutorial I must write to explain how to use the 'product' I created using pD; which is a 16-step midi sequencer I created to gain real-time controllability over MIDI sound modules; with specific emphasis on electro-acoustic composition. The sequencer is based around an "fselector" patch designed originally by Frank Barknecht, and has a few teething problems. If any volunteers could have a look @ the sequencer to give feed back (or dissect the code) I would be infinitely indebted to them. I am trying to gain a contrast between new users, as well as the hardened pros (ie the mailing list users); so I am currently spreading the word about pD with electronic musicians in the UK - if that carries any favor(?!?) It's literally 'five minutes to midnight' This is (Is this) my last hope? =/ All I ask is for you to email me asking for your copy, which I will dispatch; then simply load it - have mess about with it to see what you can come up with, and supply some feedback. g_oglethorpe(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband

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.pdrc syntax
by john saylor 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

hi i have been trying to find some documentation about the .pdrc file. i'd like to add to the path and lib settings that way. can anyone help? thanks. -- \js #"?(-#"@< ( ` < ;*/+'>! +`$

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Compiling vasp
by Michael McGonagle 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Hi everyone, I am working on learning flext, and in the process I was trying to compile 'vasp'. I was able to compile the flext stuff, but when I get to 'vasp', it goes thru everything, except the final linking stage where it complains: g++ -bundle -bundle_loader /usr/local/pd/bin/pd pd-darwin/arg.o pd-darwin/mixfft.o pd-darwin/obj_part.o pd-darwin/obj_split.o pd-darwin/opparam.o pd-darwin/ops_cplx.o pd-darwin/ops_gen.o pd-darwin/ops_trnsc.o pd-darwin/util.o pd-darwin/buflib.o pd-darwin/obj_chns.o pd-darwin/obj_peaks.o pd-darwin/obj_sync.o pd-darwin/ops_arith.o pd-darwin/ops_dft.o pd-darwin/ops_qminmax.o pd-darwin/ops_wnd.o pd-darwin/vasp.o pd-darwin/classes.o pd-darwin/obj_frames.o pd-darwin/obj_q.o pd-darwin/obj_vasp.o pd-darwin/ops_assign.o pd-darwin/ops_feature.o pd-darwin/ops_rearr.o pd-darwin/opvecs.o pd-darwin/vbuffer.o pd-darwin/env.o pd-darwin/obj_imm.o pd-darwin/obj_radio.o pd-darwin/obj_vecs.o pd-darwin/ops_carith.o pd-darwin/ops_flt.o pd-darwin/ops_resmp.o pd-darwin/rdx2fft.o pd-darwin/vecblk.o pd-darwin/main.o pd-darwin/obj_offs.o pd-darwin/obj_size.o pd-darwin/opbase.o pd-darwin/ops_cmp.o pd-darwin/ops_gate.o pd-darwin/ops_search.o pd-darwin/rvfft.o /usr/local/pd/flext/flext_t.a -lm -o pd-darwin/vasp.pd_darwin ld: Undefined symbols: _BlockMoveData _BlockZero make: *** [pd-darwin/vasp.pd_darwin] Error 1 It appears these functions are part of the flext library. I am using version 0.4.4 of flext. Any clues where I should start troubleshooting? (While I am planning on using 'vasp', this is more an excersize in compiling code that uses flext, so just to use the precompiled external is not really an option.) Thanks, Mike

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Structures without random
by Bradon Webb 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

Hello, I am curious as to what type of structures everyone uses for controling data. There are probably millions of ways of answering this and there will always be new ways of thinking about it. As much as I try to avoid it I inevitably find myself putting one or two types of random components in a patch to control a variable paramater somewhere. This is because I want to get some numbers running through the system. This seems to be the quickest way to do this. With the patch I usually only interface with a mouse, and so that means if I plan on having multiple things happen, I need a way to automate them. I have buit a step sequencer, and a data recorder that will record atoms to a table and play it back in the same order at variable speeds. But I had a someone suggest that I look into chaotic systems as opposed to random systems. I am not sure what a chaotic system means though? It seems as though the way I am looking at it is more black and white, like there is either complete structure, or complete randomness. Can someone help me get out of this box I have put myself in???? Bradon~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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Re: [PD] Structures without random
by Gregory M Rippin 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

I built some Markov-based patches as part of my Master's thesis. You can see it and the find the PD examples at home.nyu.edu/~gmr222/WhoIsListening.pdf The Markov stuff is in Chapter 4. Greg Rippin ----- Original Message ----- From: delire <delire(a)selectparks.net> Date: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:46 pm Subject: Re: [PD] Structures without random > i've had some good results sequencing, in fact handing alot of my > event automation over to markov chains at times. being so easily > 'weight-able' it's a good place to get over 'randomness' and start > gardening tendency and wildness into event structures. > phenomenologically speaking, even randomness can become repetitive. > > frank, you mentioned markov objects? yes i remember and always > *coughint* wondered what happened to that >>**!PROMISE!**<< mark > made about releasing them.. > > de/ > > pps. the chaos extern looks v' nice. thx ben. > > > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:16:04 +0200 > Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote: > > //Hallo, > //matthijs(a)devdsp.net hat gesagt: // matthijs(a)devdsp.net wrote: > // > //> Where would those examples be exactly? A (quick - ok) scan of > the docs/ > //> directory yields nothing? > // > //Here they are in: > ///usr/lib/pd/doc/2.control.examples/21.markov.chain.pd > // > //ciao > //-- > // Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__ > // > //_______________________________________________ > //PD-list mailing list > //PD-list(a)iem.at > //http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > // > // > > > //--> > > nick -> delire > home -> http://selectparks.net > key -> http://selectparks.net/jkey.txt > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >

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by marius schebella 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

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10 Aug '03

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Pd-list August 2003