Pd-list March 2003

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installing pd-0.36-extended2 with tcl/tk 8.4 on windows
by eskogen＠usfamily.net 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

hi kids, to my great suprise, the pd-0.36-extended2 package off sourceforge compiles under windows with a minimum of effort. i spent only about 30 minutes getting it working with tcl/tk 8.4 and i'd highly recommend it. the interface seems much less sluggish and i even like the scrollbars better. i have a few tips for anybody who's interested in getting this working on win32 (i'm using windows XP) i download activestate's windows binaries of tcl/tk 8.4 (just released this month) in s_inter.c: change line 654 - strcat(wishbuf, "/bin/wish83.exe"); + strcat(wishbuf, "/bin/wish84.exe"); change line 657 - spawnret = _spawnl(P_NOWAIT, wishbuf, "wish83", scriptbuf, portbuf, 0); + spawnret = _spawnl(P_NOWAIT, wishbuf, "wish84", scriptbuf, portbuf, 0); s_path.c has some weird bug on my machine. it doesn't accept "bin" as being defined in the macro, so i did this really ugly thing before each file open (the two places NTOPENFLAG is called, but left undefined): // eric's stupid hack #ifndef NTOPENFLAG #ifdef NT if (bin) { #define NTOPENFLAG _O_BINARY } else { #define NTOPENFLAG _O_TEXT } #endif #endif if i was a programmer, i'd be able to tell you how much that sucks. but i'm not so i'll leave it to the pd-list to ridicule me... in pd.tk : change line 1 - set pd_nt 0 - set pd_nt 1 this is a standard change, but it could trip you up change line 26 - load $pd_guidir/bin/pdtcl + load [file join [pwd] pdtcl.DLL] the new tcl/tk has a problem with the path, so i did a bad thing and basically hardcoded it. any tips on how to do this alternately? now, make sure your libs and includes are pointing to/mirroring the new tcl/tk 8.4. compile, and run! yay! so, THANK YOU to everyone who's been working on the extension code. everything seems to run really smoothly. --eric ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------

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pd-0.36-extended2 error messages
by TimBlechmann＠gmx.net 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

hi i am experiencing some problem when using the alsa driver on pd-0.36-extended2: after loading the externals i get the following messages: (79)(68)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69)(69) i don't get these messages using the -oss flag. i'm using alsa 0.9.1. pd is compiled by icc for linux with pentium4 optimizations. any ideas why i am getting this message? tim -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lÃ¤cheln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage!

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sound daemon with esd?
by James Fung 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

Thanks for the info about netreceive and pipeio~, I hacked u_pdsend.c into my application and it works great. I'd like to run pure-data and freebirth on my machine at the same time. To let them both access the sound card, I've tried using enlightenment sound daemon, but pure-data doesn't work with the daemon. Is there another daemon that might work or another way to get this functionality? Thanks again. -James

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Re: [PD] seeking 'playlist' windows version or means to implement similar function
by Jie Ma 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

i could get the file names each at a new line. like a.wav b.wav c.wav but after reading them with textfile object, they are still gonna be seperated either by space, or by semicolon. then how could the output of textfile object(like a.wav b.wav c.wav.... or a.wav ; b.wav ; c.wav ; ) be processed one by one? using read ...%s?? or use pointer/element which gives no comments about how to traverse array word-by-word? my failed prototype is read .../namelist.txt | textfile |________________________ | | read ...%s arrayXX tabplay arrayXX & go on..... | soundfile p.s. sorry josh, i forgot to reply to the maillist rather than your mailbox, so have to do it again :p parden me regards ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh Steiner <joschi(a)eds.org> Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 4:51 pm Subject: Re: [PD] seeking 'playlist' windows version or means to implement similar function > have you thought of having the file list separated by newlines > rather > than spaces? if you did this then reading in each filename per > line > would be very simple. > > -josh > > Jie Ma wrote: > > >hi there. > > > >i am looking for the windows version of Yves' object -- playlist. > or is > >there any way to implement similar function? > > > >the reason is i need to test a large number of wav files. and > instead of > >loading the name one by one, i have to work out how to do it > >efficiently. what i did before was to use dos command and > generate a txt > >file with all the names of wav files seperated by spaces or > >semi-columns. but i fail to let the Pd array to read the content > of this > >txt file word by word. > > > >appreciate your help and time. > > > >regards > >jay > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >PD-list mailing list > >PD-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > >http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > -- > ____________________________________________________ > independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com > > > > >

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Re: [PD] could OSC support tcp?
by eskogen＠usfamily.net 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

thanks for all the feedback! i was unclear when i said "realtime". i realize that there is a certain amount of unavoidable netlag in WAN situation. so, i guess just being able to synchronize patches over the net, and play around, with a minimum of lag would be my goal. i think LAN-jamming will be more fun, though. plus you get to see the look on peoples faces when you make a weird noise... i understand the OSC protocol and it's function (and i agree with ico, finally an audio control protocol developers are widely supporting! open source nerds, commercial software conglomerates, etc.. certainly a lot of promise).. but it seems like a minor thing to replace the udp transport in the pd OSC object with a tcp transport? i had developed a front-end sequencer in wxWindows with it's nice built in tcp support, but i couldn't get it to talk to PD because the pd OSC obj only accepts udp.. what's all this about vpn? using tcp through udp? --eric ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------

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Video analysis - more questions
by arm pdlist 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

I'm doing also some video analysis to produce music. I have a web cam that i use to generat music with VST plug-ins. My aproach so far has been very "naive". I set an 255 position array with the grey values of the video, and then i choose, say position 100 of the 255 array, set a metro to read that value with an interval of 400ms, and then convert those values to notes. But i wan't something better. What tools do you recommend? I've heard about GridFlow (although i don't really know what it does) but i use PD and GEM in Windows, so i think GridFlow is out of question (it runs on Linux only, right?). What are the things/tools that you recommend to improve the analysis of the live video to produce music? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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recording gem output
by Yves Degoyon 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

hi, someone asked this question today and if he's lucky enough to be on linux, he can use : gem -> gem2pdp -> pdp_rec~ pdp_rec~ is a PiDiP object which also records sound output ( stereo ) cheers, sevy/yves

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[OT] operating systems?
by Chad Wood 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

Hello, I'm going to switch my laptop from Windows to Linux in a couple months. I just wanted to know which distributions, desktop environments, etc. you all use. Are some distributions of Linux more flexible with the various hardware that people use (MIDI, USB, etc)? Thanks so much! Chad

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Re: [PD-dev] AppleScript to make PD double-clicker
by Josh Steiner 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

this will relate to something i've been meaning to look into... i have a .bat file on my windows box that i use to launch pd... and i associated fiules of type .pd to this batch file... so i can double click a random patch and pd will load it... so far so good... the only problem is that the second time i do that, it launches a second instance of pd... combine this with the *really bad* bug with either port audio, pd or my ASIO driver where when i launch 2 instances of PD who try to both grab the ASIO driver it pegs my CPU to 100% ... does anyone know if there is a way to make PD open a patch in an *existing* instance of pd instead of running a new one? -Josh Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >Has anyone tried to use AppleScript to write a nice double-clicker for PD >on MacOS X? Someone suggested this approach to me but I have never used >AppleScript. > >.hc > > zen > \ > \ > \[D[D[D[D > > >_______________________________________________ >PD-dev mailing list >PD-dev(a)iem.kug.ac.at >http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-dev > > -- ____________________________________________________ independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com

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re: [PD] midi button logic problem
by PT147＠mdx.ac.uk 19 Mar '03

19 Mar '03

Hi Anton, You could use a 'select 127' object routed to a toggle. Unfortunately, you then have the problem that the duplicated messages would instantly turn the toggle on then off. I've included an abstraction with a workaround, anyway. Cheers, Peter > Hi all, > I have the following problem and I was wandering if somemody here could help. > > For a project I am working on I use a MIDI controller(Peavy Studiomix ) wth > faders buttons and knobs. > I want to use the buttons as toggles. The problem is that pressing and > realesing the button will send 4 messages like that: > > print: 2500 127 > print: 2500 127 > print: 2500 0 > print: 2500 0 > That means that when I realese the button it will return to its previous > value(0) > This is not the behaviour I am looking for . What I want is each time I press > the button to change state and stay there. > > I am also confused by the fact that it it sending its message twice. I think > that is something to do with that particular hardware. > > Please enlighten me! > > -- > regards > anton > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list

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