Pd-list December 2003

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Re: [PD] pdp_glx under OS X/X11
by Yves Degoyon 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

plessas(a)sbox.tugraz.at wrote: >Quoting Yves Degoyon <ydegoyon(a)free.fr>: > > >>do you have the right version of X11 ?? >>rob recommends the one from apple, >>should be quite the same setup or your system >>has a different release number? >> >>i guess rob could answer this. >> > > >it's X11 Beta 3 - XFree86 4.2.1, from apple running on osx 10.2.1, i got all the >required libs from fink, pdp itself does load, but no output windows! Ah, >sorry, who is Rob? > rob ( canning ) did the ( improved ) installation notes for OSX : http://www.robcanning.utvinternet.com/pidip-install-osx.html > > >Merci bien de m'aider! > >avec mes resentiments des plus distinguees (c'est correct?practicing french...) > actually, no ! if you have "ressentiment" towards me, it means you bear a grudge on me )) but that's a good one )) ( "une perle", in french ) here, "sentiments" is the right word. cheers, sevy > >Pierre > > >

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Re: [PD] pdp_glx under OS X/X11
by plessas＠sbox.tugraz.at 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

reply to: > > Upon sending the pdp_glx object the "create" message, it opens a > > window for a > > second and then pd crashes: > > > > X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) > > Major opcode of failed request: 151 (GLX) > > Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent) > > Serial number of failde request: 30 > > pd_gui: pd process exited > > > > I start pd from the xterm in X11. > > try launching pd in finder ? > > u should have the x11 open for the display > Thanks, but i still got the same crash. Uuh! How do the other psp/osx people do it? Peter

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Re Jack addendium and tabwrite~
by thewade 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

> 2) JACK support in the latest release is not very good, > because I didn't have the time to adapt it to the new > media configuration system in time. You have to use the CVS version. Im using pd-0.37.1test1 from msp~ Are you talking about cvs from pure-data.sourceforge.net? I tried to checkout pd from there but I had no success... Also, it seems like Mr. Puckett has the newest stuff, yet theres this pd-extended busness. Whats the story? Is the CVS at sourceforge newest, or are the newest files at msp~? Wait, I co pd from cvsroot/pure-data. Ill try running that, but the two sources of, well, source is confusing me a bit... Thanks for the help! -thewade

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re: pd-jack addendium
by thewade 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

I have a quicl cvs question. I have the cvs version of pd (it reports 0.37 to me) but I cannot seem to compile in jack support. I give the --enable-jack configure command, and pd compiles without a single error, but when i run pd -jack, instead of it running like it usedto with 0.37.1test1, I get the usage information. The alsa stuff is pritty cool though! Its sweet how I can switch devices without having to restart pd, and change settings too. neet! What is the story with jack and pd-cvs though? Thanks again for the help. When Im a famous rock star, in my spandex and my big hair, I will make it up to you all somehow... -thewade

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Re: tapiir
by derek＠x-i.net 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

maarten, Quoting Maarten De Boer <mdeboer(a)iua.upf.es>: > > I think espcially OSC would be *very* interesting for Tapiir, > > considering how easy it may become to use Linux sound apps under Mac OS > > X in the future. > > I am not familiar with OSC. netsend might be easier. What kind of input > does it take? Netsend and netreceive are paired objects in PD, usually used for connecting remote machines, and capable of transporting TCP or UDP messages. Netsend takes an message of "connect hostname portnumber", which I suppose could be made a localhost and a port in Tapiir. I still think it would be worthwhile to use OSC, as it is a wider-used format, allowing communications with many more apps than PD. But it could [not sure here] be a bit more work. Any OSC developers here-abouts? > About writing an external PD object: the processing core of tapiir is > really small, and it would be a piece of cake to make an external PD > object out of it. But I suppose that you are especially interested > in keeping the tapiir GUI, right? Not necessarily. What I hope is to be able to automate the large number of controls in Tapiir, or to be able to change presets [.mdt files] very quickly during performance. No GUI is really required for this if I figure out the right control numbers or make my own presets. In such a case, a PD object would be quite fine ;-) best, D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 49: "Display your talent"

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Re: pool external
by Thomas Grill 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Hi Matthew, you are not using the cvs version, right? While in principle the packaged version should work as well the cvs one has many new features and bug fixes and works under BCC as well (i made a small change that should be reflected at the cvs server in about 4 hours). If you really want your version to run you can try to change the LOG1 occurences to FLEXT_LOG1 best greetings, Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: "matthew shanley" <mshanley(a)alum.rpi.edu> To: <xovo(a)gmx.net> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:10 AM Subject: pool external > Thomas, > > I'm trying to compile pool for use with Pd and running into an error. > I've listed the error response from the compiler below. I'm using > borland bcc5.5 on windows 2k. Is this a problem that you are able to > identify easily? Sorry my experience with C++ programming is pretty low. > Thanks for any help. > > matt > > > data.cpp: > Error E2268 data.cpp 23: Call to undefined function 'LOG1' in function > pooldata: > :pooldata(const _symbol *) > Error E2268 data.cpp 28: Call to undefined function 'LOG1' in function > pooldata: > :~pooldata() > >

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Connecting pd and java
by Stefania Serafin 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hello, we are trying to save the output of fiddle to a file so it can be read by a java program in real-time. We are using a dos prompt and write the pd output to a file using a pipe, then getting this output as text input to java. Unfortunately the way it is done now pd does not update the file fast enough. There is some sort of buffering that prevents real-time. Do you know how this problem can be fixed? Thanks, Stefania

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Re: tapiir
by derek holzer 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hi Maarten, and thanks for your reply. I am glad that a higher level of control is on the agenda for Tapiir, as I only think it would expand its functionality immensely. I am xposting to the PD list, where others might have a great interest in this... Maarten De Boer wrote: > This is something that has been on my TODO list for tapiir for a long > while... I think MIDI control would be nice, but it's 7-bit data > range is a bit of a problem. You are correct about MIDI... outdated stuff. Espc with the sample precision of the delays which Tapiir has. > Of course it is possible to work around > that with multiple controls per value, but for from ideal. What other > possibilities does PD offer? Maybe writing to a named pipe (fifo)? I could > easily implement the input part in tapiir. A fifo could be an option, I would have to ask on the PD list what the best way to interact with that would be. By default, PD prints to stderr, if that helps you at all... However, some solutions in PD and its close friends exist already. I would advise you to look at netsend [native PD object, udp or tcp flavors] and OSC [Open Sound Control: cross-platform, 3rd party protocol for sharing data implemented in CuBase, PD, Max/MSP, Reaktor and others]. I think espcially OSC would be *very* interesting for Tapiir, considering how easy it may become to use Linux sound apps under Mac OS X in the future. > Or maybe it would make more > sense to write an PD object that incapsulates tapiir? I do not know > however, if it is possible to use a non-PD graphical UI with a PD object. The way that VST and LADSPA plugins have been implemented in PD [via plugin~ external object] is always without their native GUIs. Named or numbered messages containing the control data are sent to a single inlet of the object, allowing PD users to make whatever kind of interface they like. If you want to go this route, perhaps somebody on the PD list could point you to some good resources on creating externals. One by IOhannes Zmoelnig is here: http://iem.kug.ac.at/pd/externals-HOWTO/ Best wishes, D. derek wrote: >>I have been enjoying Tapiir quite a bit, and would like to intergrate it >>into a performance situation alongside PD & Jack. My question is, what >>are the possibilities for external control of Tapiir? i.e. : can I send >>it messages [from PD, for example] which could either change parameters, >>or use a different .mtd file? If so, what kind of method or protocol >>would work best? -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 169: "Use filters"

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pd no sound output
by thomas gorbach 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

Hi list, I installed pd-0.37-1test on Suse 8.0. I am using a Hammerfall Soundcard. But if i start pd's test tone i only get some murmur as ouput. :-( There is no error message. What can i do now ? Thanx TOM

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Re: [PD-announce] Theory and Techniques of Electronic Music: chapter 7
by Marc Lavallée 08 Dec '03

08 Dec '03

On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:24:49AM -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: > Chapter 7 (time shifts) of the Techniques book is ready to try out. As > always, your comments, corrections, and suggestions are welcome! > > http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques.htm One small error: the link for the postscript version is a link to the pdf version. -- Marc

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