Pd-list November 2003

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Avanto festival (Helsinki)
by luc kendo 14 Nov '03

14 Nov '03

am just curious ..I would like to come to the http://www.avantofestival.com , but the accomodation there is too expensive for three days .. anyone from Helsinki, who could give shelter to my charming personality ? ;) ________ Zabava, zabava, zabava - www.zabava.sme.sk

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Re: bug reoprt for py/pyext
by Thomas Grill 14 Nov '03

14 Nov '03

Hi Jerome, this is true... i wonder why i haven't thought of that before. However, the problem is that PD (or at least flext) doesn't support a change of the inlet/outlet configuration without a recreation of the object. This means that the "reload" message can't change to number of inlets if that changes in the script. Hmmm, has anyone tried to change the inlets/outlets message-based and can PD cope with that at all? best greetings, Thomas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Etienne" <jme(a)off.net> To: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill(a)gmx.net> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: bug reoprt for py/pyext > Hello, > i think your object is veryusefull as it allow pd user to do scripting > and gui much easier than with plain puredata. this email is just > a small bug report. > > "reload" message doesnt update the number of inlet in the number > of inlet has changed in the python script. > >

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CEAIT Festival - Final Call
by Tom Erbe 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

Please excuse this repeated posting, the submission deadline is coming up soon (Friday, November 21). Also, we now have a web site for the festival. http://ceait.calarts.edu Call for Submissions - The CEAIT Festival 2004 at Calarts and REDCAT SUBMISSION GUIDELINES This year’s Center for Experiments in Art, Information and Technology (CEAIT) festival will be taking place January 30 through February 1, 2004, in both the newly opened REDCAT in downtown Los Angeles and the Roy O. Disney Music Hall on the Calarts campus. Pieces should include live electronics, instrumental performers with tape or computer, tape alone, video tape, or computer alone. There is a preference for live work over tape/CD only pieces, although tape/CD-only pieces will also be programmed. We regret that we will not be accepting proposals for audio and web installations this year, but do intend to include these media in future CEAIT events. We accept pieces that are a maximum of 15 minutes long and will accept up to two submissions per composer or group. We accept submissions on Compact Disc, VHS, CD-Rom, or DVD. We will also accept emailed links to downloadable MP3s or Quicktime files, but please be aware that any problems encountered while downloading them will result in disqualification. Emailed submissions should be sent to ceait2004(a)shoko.calarts.edu. For pieces involving performers, the composer needs to provide the performers and make necessary arrangements for the performance. For pieces with image, we will have a projector with VHS, DVD, or CD-Rom playback available. All video Submissions should be in NTSC format. Please include with each submission (in the body of an email or as a Word document): * A Short Bio * Program notes * Composer’s or group’s contact information including email * A list of technical requirements Please Note: The festival does not provide financial support for any travel or production expenses. Any submitted materials cannot be returned unless an SASE is included in the submission. CEAIT CONTACT INFORMATION All submissions should be postmarked by Friday, November 21, 2003, and sent to the following address: California Institute of the Arts CEAIT Festival 2004 School of Music 24700 McBean Parkway Valencia, CA 91355 or… ceait2004(a)shoko.calarts.edu ++++++++ tom erbe . soundhack 608 carla way . la jolla . ca . 92037 http://www.soundhack.com . soundhack(a)san.rr.com aim/ichat: thomaserbe ++++++++

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makerule for pd-gui on unix/linux?
by tigital 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

hey, ...I'm trying an experimental compile of pd on OSX, but instead of using TCL/TKAqua, I'd like to use the fink tcl/tk, which uses the X11 window manager (but keep the coreaudio stuff)...I think I've got most of the stuff changed that I need to in the source (specifically, s_inter.c, t_main.c, and t_tkcmd.c), but I had problems with configure, so I took the OSX makefile and replaced the -frameworks stuff with -I/sw/include and -L/sw/lib (which is where tcl/tk lives in fink)...unfortunately, on OSX the makefile rule for pdtcl isn't what I want, so I need to know how this is done in linux/unix makefiles... thanx, jamie

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streamin~/streamin13~ windows problem??
by Atuc 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

hallo, i would like use the audio stream function from ext13 to send audio data in our lan between serveral student pc's, we use a mixed computer setup, some windows, some linux pc's, as i testet, the windows version can receive date from linux and windows, afer the disconnect from the client side, the windows side hangs. linux implementation seems to be ok. after reconnect i can go on working with windows pd. is it a known problem? is there a better way to send audio streams from one pc to another in the local area network? any external that works on windows and linux an osx?? thanks for help, alex

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running -rt-flag as non root
by Michael Iber 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

Hello, could somebody please tell me, if there is a way to run run pd with -rt as a user without root privileges and how to set it up (on linux, of course)? Thanks, Michael

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RE: [PD] sending notes OSC
by Adrian deCleir 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

I know the difference but Ill be actually sending midi over a network , Its just I wanted to try sending some kind of sound to start off with becaues I didnt know where to get started with the midi messages so I was trying send an osc~ sound cheers anyway guys I think Ill do what CK was doing , stick an OSC header and reciever to the beginning of my midi message. PS is there any other tutorials available for OSC because I dont even quite know how to do what CK was saying -----Original Message----- From: e skogen [mailto:eskogen@usfamily.net] Sent: 12 November 2003 21:30 To: Adrian deCleir Cc: 'PD-list(a)iem.at' Subject: Re: [PD] sending notes OSC yo, to clarify, OSC stands for OpenSoundControl. it is not a protocol meant for sending audio. it sends control messages than can trigger lots of processes. one process that it could control would be audio. so, a typical use of OSC would be a patch that accepts OSC commands to trigger different sounds, much like MIDI was once used to trigger different sounds (long ago... in a galaxy far, far away). [osc~] and [OSC] are two completely different objects in Pd: [osc~] is just a cosine wave oscillator. [OSC] is part of the OpenSoundControl library. You can use it to send control messages using the OSC (OpenSoundControl) protocol. if you indeed want to send audio signals over a network, you might consider a streaming audio server, or the [streamout~] and [streamin~] object in ggee (?). sorry if this was talking down to anyone, but i felt like this should be explained... eric ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------

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Re: [PD] converting audio-nujmbers in PD
by CK 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

I read: > 1. take the frequency of an audio in on my DA card and > convert it to controller data or any numbers that > could controll the frequency of a pd oscillator (freq. > tracking) fiddle~ (in extra) > 2. do the same with amplitude env~, snapshot~, envrms~(zexy IIRC) > 3. use any other data I could ring out of audio to > control pd functions (perhaps attack rate, waveform, > etc). bonk~ >~ <~ zerox~(cyclone I think) fft~ .... > 4. divide frequency into bands which could seperately > trigger and control samples and their > frequency/amplitude/etc. a) filter it and measure amplitude b) fft~ HTH x -- chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)

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Re: PD-list digest, Vol 1 #763 - 17 msgs
by Oskar Lissheim-Boëthius 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

Hey, Sorry, just want to praise Jitter a bit. Tried the demo today. Great stuff! Everyone who haven't tried it yet, go to www.cycling74.com and download it. Try it. Then hand over that rectangular piece of plastic you keep in your pocket. Great list. Thanks for a lot of good info! PS. Jitter is the video add-on-part of MaxMSP. Yours cincerely, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > O S K A R L I S S H E I M - B O Ë T H I U S Composer & Webdesigner Kingdom of Sweden Home: http://www.avocade.com/ Cell: +46 (0) 736-525420 On 2003-11-12, at 19.15, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Send PD-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list(a)iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-request(a)iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-admin(a)iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PD-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pd minimum requirements (Emmanuel Rio) > 2. Re: pure-data.org downloads (L Hyland) > 3. Re: Re: Some VASP questions (Thomas Grill) > 4. vasp, segfault (CK) > 5. Re: vasp, segfault (Thomas Grill) > 6. Re: vasp, segfault (CK) > 7. Re: vasp, segfault (Thomas Grill) > 8. Re: vasp, segfault (Thomas Grill) > 9. sending notes OSC (Adrian deCleir) > 10. Re: Question (IOhannes zmoelnig) > 11. Re: sending notes OSC (CK) > 12. RE: sending notes OSC (Adrian deCleir) > 13. RE: sending notes OSC (Adrian deCleir) > 14. Re: sending notes OSC (CK) > 15. processing text (Martin Dupras) > 16. Re: processing text (IOhannes zmoelnig) > 17. Re: processing text (IOhannes zmoelnig) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:03:13 +0100 > From: Emmanuel Rio <emmanuel.rio(a)m4x.org> > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd minimum requirements > > Hi, > > I managed to run PD (version 0.36-0) on a Toshiba Satellite 100CS,=20 > which is a laptop PC. Main specs : > - Pentium I (75 Mhz) > - 810 MB Hard Disk > - 8 MB RAM > - Windows 95 > Since it doesn't have any multimedia card, I could only test > control=20 > stuff (actually, a metro and a bang). With a PCMCIA ethernet card I=20 > have, I could also test a netsend/netreceive connection with my > current=20 > laptop (which has audio/midi capabilies). It works. I see two=20 > configurations for which it could be usefull : > - for people who want to learn basics of control/programming approach > in = > PD. > - for a remote/shared control (via the network) of a "normal" > multimedia = > PD. > > Just my 2 euro cents, > > Emmanuel > --=20 > Emmanuel Rio - 6, rue Cr=E9mieux, 75012 Paris > t=E9l=E9phone:01.44.73.96.32 > mailto:emmanuel.rio@m4x.org > http://emmanuel.rio.free.fr/ > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "L Hyland" <hylandl(a)forwind.net> > To: <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:54:19 +0100 > Subject: [PD] Re: pure-data.org downloads > >> I think it should be good practice everywhere users upload something, >> to try to download it once afterwards. Then the user would've seen >> that something must have gone wrong. > > here, here... > I have just had this problem with the syncgrain~ external I was > whinging > about all last week. > The ~ was missing in the .dll file I downloaded (from > www.audionerd.com) > and therefore wasn't working. I know this is undoubtedly very obvious > to > more seasoned pders but for someone still cluelessly weaning > themselves off > commercial software it's not; even if it were, mucking about with > files that > one assumes to be 'in order' is normally not advisable as the chances > of > wreaking even more havoc are high... The 'download once test' would > save a > lot of hair-tearing and would probably also result in less people like > myself clogging up the mailing list with irratating questions! > > L > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill(a)gmx.net> > To: "Larry Troxler" <lt(a)westnet.com>, "PD List" <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] Re: Some VASP questions > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:51:51 +0100 > >>> Not really. Do you get those messages from my attached patch or from >>> another one? >> >> From the attached patch. However, it does not happen all the time, >> and so > far >> I haven't found a sequence that reliably reproduces the problem. >> >> First question, which would pre-empt the rest of this message: are >> there > any >> bug fixes between 0.36-devel and 0.37 that I'm missing that could >> relate > to >> this? > > There have been some changes in the threading model that could have an > influence. > To see if the threading is buggy you could try to remove all the detach > flags (maybe it's best to do that in the patcher text file) and try > again. > >> >> Next, I haven't looked at the source yet to see what generates this > message. > > You will have hard times to debug the VASP source if you're not > familiar > with it > >> The only corelation I suspect (and I could be easily be wrong about >> this, > it's >> just a vague suspicion), is that this is somehow an indirect artifact >> of > the >> current TK bug (where you get a message about "bad screen distances", >> sometimes followed by "illegal command name", when loading a patch or > moving >> a graph). However I can't imagine what the connection might be, and I > suspect >> it could be just a coincidence. > > I don't think it's related to that - it looks like a genuine VASP bug. > > > best greetings, > Thomas > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: CK <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > To: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:59:11 +0100 (CET) > Subject: [PD] vasp, segfault > > hi thomas and the rest, > > I've just revisited vasp but I run into lots of trouble, flext and > vasp cvs update today morning didn't help much whatever example I > try I get several > >> convolve 1 0 27 0 (vasp.frames?->text) connection failed >> convolve 5 0 20 0 (text->vasp.radio) connection failed >> convolve 22 0 26 0 (text->text) connection failed >> convolve 24 0 22 0 (canvas->text) connection failed >> convolve 25 0 22 1 (canvas->text) connection failed > . > . > > and similar messages, whatever I try out immediately segfaults > that is debian-ppc unstable on a g4 > > any hints ? > > x > > -- > chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better > http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com) > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill(a)gmx.net> > To: "CK" <x(a)meta.lo-res.org>, <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:31:23 +0100 > > Hi Chris, > does this mean that you can't create any vasp object? ( i assume the > vasp > library does load normally) > > The combination of linux and PPC is completely untested, but _should_ > nevertheless work. > I'll see what could go wrong but i'm not sure if i have a solution > shortly. > > greetings, > T > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "CK" <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > To: <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:59 AM > Subject: [PD] vasp, segfault > > >> hi thomas and the rest, >> >> I've just revisited vasp but I run into lots of trouble, flext and >> vasp cvs update today morning didn't help much whatever example I >> try I get several >> >>> convolve 1 0 27 0 (vasp.frames?->text) connection failed >>> convolve 5 0 20 0 (text->vasp.radio) connection failed >>> convolve 22 0 26 0 (text->text) connection failed >>> convolve 24 0 22 0 (canvas->text) connection failed >>> convolve 25 0 22 1 (canvas->text) connection failed >> . >> . >> >> and similar messages, whatever I try out immediately segfaults >> that is debian-ppc unstable on a g4 >> >> any hints ? >> >> x >> >> -- >> chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better >> http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list mailing list >> PD-list(a)iem.at >> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: CK <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault > To: t.grill(a)gmx.net (Thomas Grill) > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:51:20 +0100 (CET) > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > > hi thomas, > > I read: >> does this mean that you can't create any vasp object? ( i assume the >> vasp >> library does load normally) > > no, I can load the lib and most of the objects (I probably missed some > abstraction path) generate fine, I can also use a lot of the help stuff > in vasp/pd but all the stuff in vasp/pd_ex it tested causes a segfault > > [...] > >> I'll see what could go wrong but i'm not sure if i have a solution >> shortly. > > I'll try to recompile today afternoon with -g (pd && flext && vasp) and > see if gdb reveals sth. useful (if I find the time). > > regards, > > x > > -- > chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better > http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com) > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > From: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill(a)gmx.net> > To: "CK" <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > Cc: <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:24:15 +0100 > >> no, I can load the lib and most of the objects (I probably missed some >> abstraction path) generate fine, I can also use a lot of the help >> stuff >> in vasp/pd but all the stuff in vasp/pd_ex it tested causes a segfault > > It would be helpful if you could list the vasp objects that don't load. > The problem with the pd_ex examples is that they are quite complex, so > a > error could be hidden anywhere. Maybe you could construct a simple > patch > that segfaults? > > greetings, > Thomas > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > From: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill(a)gmx.net> > To: "CK" <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > Cc: "pd" <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:45:34 +0100 > > Hi, > i can indeed reproduce some misbehavior with the examples in linux/x86, > although i don't know whether it's the same that you found... seems > like i > broke something with the latest changes to flext or vasp. > I'll look into it shortly. > > best greetings, > Thomas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "CK" <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > To: "Thomas Grill" <t.grill(a)gmx.net> > Cc: <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:51 AM > Subject: Re: [PD] vasp, segfault > > >> hi thomas, >> >> I read: >>> does this mean that you can't create any vasp object? ( i assume the > vasp >>> library does load normally) >> >> no, I can load the lib and most of the objects (I probably missed some >> abstraction path) generate fine, I can also use a lot of the help >> stuff >> in vasp/pd but all the stuff in vasp/pd_ex it tested causes a segfault >> >> [...] >> >>> I'll see what could go wrong but i'm not sure if i have a solution > shortly. >> >> I'll try to recompile today afternoon with -g (pd && flext && vasp) >> and >> see if gdb reveals sth. useful (if I find the time). >> >> regards, >> >> x >> >> -- >> chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better >> http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com) >> >> > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > From: Adrian deCleir <0031259(a)student.ul.ie> > To: "'PD-list(a)iem.at'" <PD-list(a)iem.at> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:22:35 -0000 > Subject: [PD] sending notes OSC > > Hi I know this is a very simple question but I cant find any tutorials > to > work on , and there's hardly any examples ppl have done that are > available, > but I manage to send text characters, numbers or whatever to other IP > addresses using 'send' in a message box and joining it to sendOSC but > how do > you send sound, I've a little osc~ set up where I can hear my own > sound on > my pc but I dont know what the object or message is to send it to > another IP > address, cheers for the help > Adrian > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:54:20 +0100 > From: IOhannes zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > To: Michael Gschiel <gschiel(a)kfs.oeaw.ac.at> > CC: PD-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Question > > Michael Gschiel wrote: >> Is it possible to show two different gemwin in one patch?? >> >> thanks mike > > with the current (<=0.87) and upcoming (0.888) releases: no > > mfg.asd.r > IOhannes > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > From: CK <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > Subject: Re: [PD] sending notes OSC > To: 0031259(a)student.ul.ie (Adrian deCleir) > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:21:01 +0100 (CET) > Cc: PD-list(a)iem.at ('PD-list(a)iem.at') > > hi adrian, > > I read: >> but I manage to send text characters, numbers or whatever to other IP >> addresses using 'send' in a message box and joining it to sendOSC but >> how do >> you send sound, > > OSC is a control protocol not meant for streaming sound data in a > reasonable > amount of time (though you could of course use: > > [tabread] > | > [pd yourOSCsender] > . > . (imagine powerpoint internet cloud here) > . > [pd yourOSCreceiver] > | > [tabwrite] > > ) > >> I've a little osc~ set up where I can hear my own sound on >> my pc but I dont know what the object or message is to send it to >> another IP > > well in pd you could always look into the pd internal messages docs > and clone your patch at the other end but I don't think that's what > you want. again: OSC != streaming it was designed as a more versatile, > contemporary, typed, urlstyle , physical layer independent midi > replacement see: http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/ > > HTH > > x > > -- > chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better > http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com) > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > From: Adrian deCleir <0031259(a)student.ul.ie> > To: 'CK' <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > Cc: "'PD-list(a)iem.at'" <PD-list(a)iem.at> > Subject: RE: [PD] sending notes OSC > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:42:43 -0000 > > do you if it might be able to be done using netsend or anything no? > tabread doesnt seem to work > > cheers anyway > adrian > > -----Original Message----- > From: CK [mailto:x@meta.lo-res.org] > Sent: 12 November 2003 15:21 > To: 0031259(a)student.ul.ie > Cc: PD-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] sending notes OSC > > > hi adrian, > > I read: >> but I manage to send text characters, numbers or whatever to other IP >> addresses using 'send' in a message box and joining it to sendOSC but >> how > do >> you send sound, > > OSC is a control protocol not meant for streaming sound data in a > reasonable > amount of time (though you could of course use: > > [tabread] > | > [pd yourOSCsender] > . > . (imagine powerpoint internet cloud here) > . > [pd yourOSCreceiver] > | > [tabwrite] > > ) > >> I've a little osc~ set up where I can hear my own sound on >> my pc but I dont know what the object or message is to send it to >> another > IP > > well in pd you could always look into the pd internal messages docs > and clone your patch at the other end but I don't think that's what > you want. again: OSC != streaming it was designed as a more versatile, > contemporary, typed, urlstyle , physical layer independent midi > replacement see: http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/ > > HTH > > x > > -- > chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better > http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com) > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > From: Adrian deCleir <0031259(a)student.ul.ie> > To: 'CK' <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > Cc: PD-list(a)iem.at > Subject: RE: [PD] sending notes OSC > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:21:29 -0000 > > just one more thing, sorry for bothering, but in the end Im actually > going > to be streaming midi , I just thought Id try getting it working with > the > osc~ > do you know of any objects that will help me on my way no? > oggcast and them seem to be for actual audio not midi > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CK [mailto:x@meta.lo-res.org] > Sent: 12 November 2003 15:43 > To: 0031259(a)student.ul.ie > Subject: Re: [PD] sending notes OSC > > > I read: >> do you if it might be able to be done using netsend or anything no? >> tabread doesnt seem to work > > if you really wan't to stream audio you should take a look at the > various *mp3*, *ogg*cast, *shout*cast externals but I'm no expert > on that. > > regards, > > x > > -- > chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better > http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com) > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > From: CK <x(a)meta.lo-res.org> > Subject: Re: [PD] sending notes OSC > To: 0031259(a)student.ul.ie (Adrian deCleir) > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:07:12 +0100 (CET) > Cc: PD-list(a)iem.at > > I read: >> just one more thing, sorry for bothering, but in the end Im actually >> going >> to be streaming midi , > > ok great, finally I think I have sort of a clue what you want to do, > so your options are: > > netsend - netreceive but you'll have to develop your own mini protocol > defining what is what. > > OSC - just stick an OSC header and receiver to to the beginning of your > midi message send it, parse it at the other end route it to the > instrument > you want et voila > >> I just thought Id try getting it working with the >> osc~ > > still don't get it > > I give up, > > HTH > > x > > -- > chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better > http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com) > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > From: "Martin Dupras" <martin.dupras(a)uwe.ac.uk> > To: <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:08:00 -0000 > Subject: [PD] processing text > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_01DC_01C3A93F.8705BD80 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi, > > I'm trying to read text from textfiles in pd and display sentences > with = > the text object in gem. However, I am having a few problems.=20 > > I'm reading sentences with textefile, which works well. I read lines > in = > the textfile one by one, which I want to send as lists to the text3d = > object. What comes out of the textfile object is something like: > > "list the dog is asleep" > > which I need to convert to: > > "text the dog is asleep" > > How do I do that in pd? > > Two corollary questions: > > 1) is there an escape character that can be used in the message > object, = > or otherwise a way to store the "space" character in a text object as > a = > list element? > > 2) is there a way to count the number of elements in a list? > > Thanks! > > - martin > > ------=_NextPart_000_01DC_01C3A93F.8705BD80 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm trying to read text from > textfiles = > in pd and=20 > display sentences with the text object in gem. However, I am having a = > few=20 > problems. </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm reading sentences with textefile, > = > which works=20 > well. I read lines in the textfile one by one, which I want to send as > = > lists to=20 > the text3d object. What comes out of the textfile object is > something=20 > like:</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"list the dog is asleep"</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>which I need to convert = > to:</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"text the dog is asleep"</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How do I do that in pd?</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Two corollary questions:</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) is there an escape character that = > can be used in=20 > the message object, or otherwise a way to store the "space" character > in = > a text=20 > object as a list element?</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) is there a way to count the number > = > of elements=20 > in a list?</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- martin</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_01DC_01C3A93F.8705BD80-- > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:05:13 +0100 > From: IOhannes zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > To: Martin Dupras <martin.dupras(a)uwe.ac.uk> > CC: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > Subject: Re: [PD] processing text > > Martin Dupras wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to read text from textfiles in pd and display sentences >> with >> the text object in gem. However, I am having a few problems. > > probably i should change the behaviour, so that lists would be > interpreted as text too... > >> >> I'm reading sentences with textefile, which works well. I read lines >> in >> the textfile one by one, which I want to send as lists to the text3d >> object. What comes out of the textfile object is something like: >> >> "list the dog is asleep" >> >> which I need to convert to: >> >> "text the dog is asleep" >> >> How do I do that in pd? >> >> Two corollary questions: >> >> 1) is there an escape character that can be used in the message >> object, >> or otherwise a way to store the "space" character in a text object as >> a >> list element? > no escaping (yet?) > but you can use [l2s] from zexy. i hate to keep pointing at zexy, but > (for obvious reasons) it has everything i need and what is missing in > pd. > >> >> 2) is there a way to count the number of elements in a list? > > [length] from (guess) zexy > > > mfg.as.dr > IOhannes > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:14:01 +0100 > From: IOhannes zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > To: Martin Dupras <martin.dupras(a)uwe.ac.uk> > CC: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > Subject: Re: [PD] processing text > > IOhannes zmoelnig wrote: >> Martin Dupras wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to read text from textfiles in pd and display sentences >>> with the text object in gem. However, I am having a few problems. >> >> >> probably i should change the behaviour, so that lists would be >> interpreted as text too... >> > > > i just noticed, that someone has already done this (at least in the > cvs) > but my research wasn't for nothing: i have removed a constraint which > denied the rendering of lists that started with a number. > don't know why it was there. > > mfg.asd.r > IOhannes > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > > End of PD-list Digest >

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gem / wacom problem on windows
by Cyrille Henry 13 Nov '03

13 Nov '03

hello, I recently buy a wacom graphical tablette for using with pd. I try the gemtablet object. it works fine, I got position, pression, azimuth, orientation... of the pen without problem. but now, everytime I close pd, after using gem, I've got 3 error messages. This error occur even if I don't use the tablette or gemtablette object they does not occur if i don't open a gem windows. I try with both win2K and winXP. the errors are something like : instruction "0x77f47bd2" using memory addresse "0x04380010". memory can not be read. click ok to close the program. can I do something for removing this error? thank's Cyrille

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