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logo or icon?? or design?
by Andrey Savitsky 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

oh, sorry. i forgot to leave a place for Framestein logo. : ) a

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official Pd package (Miller!)
by huolong＠arcor.de 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

hi miller, i typed "c:\pd" as extraction-path (the self-extracting pd package for windows from your site) and it extracted it to "c:\pd\pd" this is not the way we are used on windows, could you please correct this. or if this is intentional (also for long term), let me know and i mention it in my (upcoming) tutorial that it extracts to a folder named "Pd" inside the path what you type in the extraction path. thank you -andre

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Fw: [PD] logo or icon?? or design?
by Andrey Savitsky 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

the illustration could be other. it should be designed separately. but before to find more successful image i'd like to find out whether we need it and how we can use it in pd interface. My main idea is to find how pd can look more presentably in whole, not only in icons. Framestein logo I have recollected, because it appears in main window when framestein is loaded. best regards, andrey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicholas Colvin" <colvin(a)dvida.net> > To: "'Andrey Savitsky'" <a.savitsky(a)hhtp.org>; "'!!!PD-list'" > <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:03 PM > Subject: RE: [PD] logo or icon?? or design? > > > > I like this. > > > > The tangle of cables cracked me up, because I've seen it in my own and > > many friends rooms. I like the 3d line art best though, because the > > cables look a little too much like Max/MSP's splash screen. > > > > Nicholas > > >

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[Gem-cvs] MarkEx objecst
by kurt stockman 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

hi, did a gem-cvs build this morning (GEM: ver: 0.888-pre1); counter & friends seem to be gone.... I remember a thread about putting those objects in a seperate library: which lib would that be and where can i get it? or; where in the gem makefile(s)/sources can i tell my compiler/gem to build/include the objects? grtz.krt

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Re: [PD] official Pd package (Miller!)
by huolong＠arcor.de 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> An: huolong(a)arcor.de Datum: 24.10.2003 14:44 Betreff: Re: [PD] official Pd package (Miller!) > > On Friday, Oct 24, 2003, at 06:48 America/New_York, huolong(a)arcor.de > wrote: > > > hi miller, > > > > i typed "c:\pd" as extraction-path (the self-extracting pd package for > > windows from your site) and it extracted it to "c:\pd\pd" > > > > this is not the way we are used on windows, could you please correct > > this. > > > > or > > > > Yes, this breaks with the past, but I think this is the way things > should go. Pd should be made to behave like a native app on each > platform. On Windows, programs are installed in Program Files, so Pd > should be also. i could disagree. because pd is launched and configured from commandline, typing: c:\pd\bin\pd.exe -path c:\pd\externs -lib foo is easier than typing: "c:\program files\pd\bin\pd.exe" -path "c:\program files\pd\externs" -lib foo so, spaces in file/directory names are a pain in the ass when using commandline... but, what i ment, the millers installer doesnt show the whole path where it installs ! when an installer of some app asks where to install, i say "C:\Program Files\thenameoftheprogram" it will be installed to "C:\Program Files\thenameoftheprogram" but, with millers installer it ask where to install, i say "C:\Program Files\Pd" and it installs to "C:\Program Files\Pd\Pd" got it ? > > > if this is intentional (also for long term), let me know and i mention > > it in my (upcoming) tutorial that it extracts to a folder named "Pd" > > inside the path what you type in the extraction path. > > > With Miller's 0.37 installer and my 0.37 installer, you don't need to > know where to put Pd in order to install it. Both installers > automatically install into a default location. yes, thats the case in allmost any programm. but how does the user know where to find the program after the installation when the installer shows it installs in "C:\Program Files" but in real case it installls in "C:\Program Files\Pd". the installer didn say/show its installed in directory "pd" under "drive:\yourselectedpath" and on most windows machine the "program files" directory is quite full, so the user could loose his nerves searching it (worsts case senario) but, it's a good thing that pd is ALLWAYS installed to a sub-directory named "Pd", but the user MUST be informed about that during installation. >I don't remember, is > your tutorial online somewhere? It would great to have in on > pure-data.org. it's not ready yet, but my intention/inspiration is to put it (only) on pure-data.org i'll probably do an html version for reading online/screen and a pdf version for print... cheers -andre > > .hc > > > thank you > > -andre > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list mailing list > > PD-list(a)iem.at > > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > > > http://at.or.at/hans/ > > >

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MIDI Controllers and VST-Plugins in k_vst
by luigi rensinghoff 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

Hallo again ;-) So i have a vstserver running under linux and made some vst-plugins/Instruments produce sound! Jippie! Now i want to control the vst-parameters with my little knobs from my MIDI Controller. I tried some combinations wint ctl burt i always get "out fo range" And even changing parameters by clicking does not result in a change in the GUI ?? Does it work at all or am i trying sthg not implemented yet ?? Regards Luigi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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logo or icon?? (my opinion)
by marius schebella 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

hi, are you talking about an icon or a logo? i think a logo should be definitely with colors and doesnot need to be produced with Pd... and I don't know why we should use yingyang stuff. there is no connection to Pd. So I am still wating for the right logo to come... For my own purposes I am using the [Pd] - icon(Pd in object box). But as mentioned, this is rather weak for a logo. who is in the jury for the contest? marius.

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Re: [PD] Newbie with some questions (notably [block~ 1])
by Claudius Maximus 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

--- Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote: > Hallo, > Claudius Maximus hat gesagt: // Claudius Maximus > wrote: > > > 1. [block~ 1] doesn't work > > > > The block size is set to 64 instead. Moreover: > > block~ can not be used in the patch with the > adc~/dac~, you need a > subpatch then. Block also does not change the lowest > message speed in > objects like [del], which is limited below by 64 > samples. Is there a list of objects which do not behave in a continuous way as you decrease the block size below 64? I'd hate to run into trouble again when I least expect it. Perhaps [bang~] or [timer] are some of these objects, which would break the [block~ 1] tests I detailed below. > > 3. How do I read bytes from a binary file into an > > array? > > > > Treating them as integers from 0 to 255. > > I don't know an object that opens files in bin-mode, > but it could be > written as an external. I do not have a Windows C compiler. I need to investigate whether there are any freely available, can you recommend one? > > 4. How do I build messages out of symbol arguments? > > > > |set $1( doesn't work as expected when I send it > a > > symbol. > > What did you expect it to work like? Well, as I describe below it wasn't a symbol I was sending it anyway, but an identifier. I expected it to replace $1 with the identifier name that was input. > > 5. How do I send messages to $0-name arrays? > > > > |;$0-name x y z( doesn't work. > > There is no $0 in messages, you just invented this. > ;) > To send to local variable, need to make a message > that accepts a > variable: > > [; $1-name x y z( > > and send $0 as first argument to that: > > [f $0] > | > | > [; $1-name x y z( > > you also could use [symbol $0-name] directly. > Example attached. Many thanks, that's exactly what I needed. > Frank Barknecht _ --- zmoelnig(a)iem.at wrote: > > Zitiere Claudius Maximus <gloriousclaudiusmaximus(a)yahoo.co.uk>: > > > 1. [block~ 1] doesn't work > > it does. (at least in pd-0.36; i'll have to make the > pc i am sitting at compile > first, before i can try 0.37) > > > The block size is set to 64 instead. Moreover: > > how do you know ? > i tested it with [pack~]. I tried 3 methods of getting [block ~1] to work, all failed. 1: block1test1.pd Window with a [block~ 1] and objects to display the block size. Doesn't work, block size is actually 64. 2: block1test2.pd Window with a [pd ...] subpatch, subpatch contains a [block~ 1] and objects to display the block size. Doesn't work, block size is actually 64. 3: block1test3a.pd, block1test3b.pd 3a is a window with a [block1test3b] use of an abstraction and a number box to display the block size coming from the outlet. 3b is a window with a [block~ 1] and objects to display the block size, together with an outlet outputting the block size. Doesn't work, block size is actually 64. I first noticed this bug trying to output audio (sound was way lower in pitch than it should have been with mid-freq aliasing noise), but I've since modified those patches to use a workaround so I'm afraid I can't post them here. > > C:\>pd -blocksize 1 > > i don't think that this is a working setting. > pd's dac/adc-blocksize used to be somewhat hardcoded > to 64 samples (but this > might have changed with 0.37; i'm a little bit > behind in that matters) > and of course your soundcard/driver would have to > support such small blocksizes. I see. A friendly error message would have been nicer ;-) > > 3. How do I read bytes from a binary file into an > > array? > > > > Treating them as integers from 0 to 255. > > there was something like [read16 > /path/to/my/file.dat( I guess I could use [soundfiler] to read the data as a raw 8-bit sound file, and then calculate the real byte values. Not very elegant though ;-) > > 4. How do I build messages out of symbol arguments? > > > > |set $1( doesn't work as expected when I send it a > > symbol. > > depends on what you expect. > you might argue, that when setting a message with > [set $1( where $1 is a symbol > the set message should output a symbol when > banged/clicked. However you easily > acchieve this by using [set symbol $1(. > > It is often quite hard to distinguish between > "symbols" and so called anythings > , especially for newbies. > There is really a difference between [hallo( (being > an identifier "hallo") and > [symbol hallo( (being the symbol (identified by > "symbol") "hallo") I think I understand now: [sawtooth( is sent as an identifier rather than a symbol, so I need to put it through a [symbol] object to turn it into a real symbol. After that, routing it into a [set $1( works as I expected, outputting "set sawtooth". As a diagram: [sawtooth( | | "sawtooth" | [symbol] | | "symbol sawtooth" | [set $1( | | "set sawtooth" v > > 5. How do I send messages to $0-name arrays? > > > > |;$0-name x y z( doesn't work. > > to send something to your array named "$0-name" use: > > [x y z( > | > [send $0-name] Thanks, I've got that working :) > mfg.as.dr > IOhannes What I am trying to do is create an oscillator with switchable waveforms, and the ability to synchronize the oscillators (osc2 restarts when osc1 restarts, need better resolution than 64 samples for this). I want the subpatch to be able to receive messages like [waveform square( or [waveform sawtooth(, which it converts to messages like [set X( where X is the name of a local array like $0-sawtooth or $0-square. The [set X( message is then sent to a [tabosc4~]. See symboltest1*.pd - it uses $1 from the abstraction arguments because $0 was invisible and I wanted to see what was happening). I was doing it wrong when I first tried, but now I think I've found a bug in the message box: [set $1 $2( -> "set aardvark sawtooth" when I feed it a pair of symbols "aardvark sawtooth". But when I try to put a "-" instead of the space between the variables: [set $1-$2( -> "set aardvark-$2" instead of "set aardvark-sawtooth". A problem. Are there prizes awarded for finding bugs? I would like my prize to be an umbrella - I need to go to the post office but it's raining. A solution to the waveform selection problem is: [route sawtooth square ...] | | ... | | [trigger bang] | | [symbol $0-sawtooth] | | [set $1( | | [whatever wants to read the array] which would mean more work when adding new waveforms (need to create new waveform array, modify route and create a new trigger-symbol-message trio, instead of just creating the new waveform array), but has the advantage that I can add a sensible error message for unrecognised waveform names. Many thanks to both of you for your swift and helpful replies. Claude -- http://www.claudiusmaximus.tk Each unsolicited commercial email received is subject to a US$50 handling fee. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk

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Pd logo
by spiffy schmoo 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

sorry about the bad link...let's try this again http://www.pure-data.org/Members/spiffy/pdlogo/photo_view let me know what you think later, spiffy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

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receive functionality question
by doktorp 24 Oct '03

24 Oct '03

Hi quick question regarding receive. is there anyway to dynamically 'set' the object that receive is receiving? in max (ya ya I know, im just trying to redo some of my old patches) one could do : 'message' (name of origin send) | | 'prepend set' | | | 'receive' | | | to destination but since receive when instantiated with no argument doesnt have an input message, err.. you know. is there any other object that can do this as simply, or a work around with messages that I havent thought of? thanks much! -dok ps here is a sample from max where I find its really useful: max v2; #N vpatcher 652 380 1042 743; #P user ubumenu 54 67 65 1050017801 0 1 1 0; #X setrgb 0 0 0 100 100 100 50 50 50 4 4 4 141 141 141 112 112 112; #X add none; #X add 1_movie; #X add 2_movie; #X add 3_movie; #X add 4_movie; #X prefix_set 0 0 <none> 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P newex 81 204 61 196617 gate; #P newex 106 124 21 196617 t 1; #P message 81 124 14 196617 0; #P newex 81 92 35 196617 sel off; #P hidden outlet 81 237 15 0; #P hidden newex 132 124 60 196617 prepend set; #P hidden newex 132 153 59 196617 r; #P comment 133 59 39 196617 source; #P connect 8 1 4 0; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P fasten 6 0 7 0 111 172 86 172; #P connect 5 0 7 0; #P connect 7 0 3 0; #P connect 4 1 6 0; #P fasten 4 1 2 0 111 116 137 116; #P connect 2 0 1 0; #P connect 1 0 7 1; #P pop;

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