Pd-list January 2003

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PeRColate problems
by steven yi 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Hi all, I just downloaded the PeRColate port to PD for linux (PeRColate0.08_source.zip), compiled with "make pd_linux" and copied the shared lib to my externs directory. Unfortunately, none of the PeRColate objects seem to come in. I'm using PD 0.36.0 on a Mandrake 9.0 system. Any ideas? thanks, steven

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Re: [PD] Universal Makefile for PD
by bbogart＠ryerson.ca 28 Jan '03

28 Jan '03

Hello again Michael! I think the Makefile that comes with the chaos externals pretty well covers non-audio externals for all supported platforms. (I've not looked at it in a while, I think I left in the IRIX stuff) For audio externals I'm not quite sure... In terms of options I'm not sure if I could help you out either, They are just scripts that automate building, so the compile link etc.. I suppose there are any number of options, in terms of ordering, optimization etc.. basically all the same options you have compiling and linking on command line... Does that answer your question? B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael McGonagle <fndsnd(a)rcnchicago.com> Date: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:04 pm Subject: [PD] Universal Makefile for PD > Hello all, > > I have been working with some externals for PD over the past few > days, > and having noticed that most makefiles do not have targets for Mac > OS X > (Darwin), it made me wonder if there is a "Universal" makefile > that > contains the needed code as a starting point for all externals. > > Is there some documentation on compiling externals? I have looked > at the > tutorial for externals at 'iem', but it does not get into any of > the > "compilation" things. Is there one way to compile an external? > What > sorts of options are there? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >

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Re: [PD] Bus Error on Mac OS X on quiting PD
by bbogart＠ryerson.ca 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Hello Michael, Because PD is a tcl/tk application it has a "wish" (the tcl/tk interpreter) menu which goes to the top of the MAC screen as a normal Mac application. Now this is the menu ONLY for the interpreter, it does not know anything about PD running. To exit PD you need to use the menu on the top of the PD window itself, looks like a drop down box.. "file" -> "quit" For the OSX developers will this wish dependance disapear so that only the PD menus are available? Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael McGonagle <fndsnd(a)rcnchicago.com> Date: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:18 am Subject: [PD] Bus Error on Mac OS X on quiting PD > Hello all, > > I have been running PD on Mac OS X now for the past month, and > have been > happy with everything I have tried (this includes Paradiddle and > the > 'chaos' externals). I am getting PD to send MIDI to Logic, using a > loopback thru a MIDI interface (maybe not the most elegant, but at > least > I can send from PD). > > While I have not had any problems with PD crashing during normal > use, it > does seem that there might be some trouble when quiting PD > normally > (using the 'quit' option in wish), it causes a bus error. I am > starting > PD with the following: > > <orb> pd -noaudio -nomidiin -midioutdev 2 > > From here, Logic is able to recieve the MIDI over the loopback, > and it > can play its AudioUnit patches (and the built-in Logic patches). > But, > the real trouble seems to be when quiting out of PD, and then > restarting > it, there appears to be a "loss" of MIDI connectivity, as Logic > does not > "hear" PD. Once I reboot the system, everything will connect fine. > It > also appears to be intermittant, as it has not happened everytime, > but > often enough to make me wonder if others are getting this, too. > > I am running on a PowerBook G4-1GHz, with 512 meg of ram, with OS > X 10.2.3. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >

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some basic questions
by Thomas Grill 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Hi all, as i'm planning to develop a larger performance system on the basis of pd i have a few questions which are not obvious to me. 1) is there a way to switch off dsp computing in a subpatcher only, and how? (i think i should know that) 2) i remember a discussion thread about max-like poly (or even better - poly~) objects a while ago... has there been any external code written in an attempt to realize that? 3) is it guaranteed (or at least intended - and under which circumstances) that - contrary to Max/MSP - opening a new patcher and adding objects to the signal tree doesn't result in an overall crackle? At least in my experiments i could open fairly complex and cpu-intense patches in PD without audio interruption. 4) i think to recall vaguely that there has been a project featuring a tcl/tk-less pd patcher system (i think with GTK). If this is true, does that still reside somewhere? 5) concerning the -nogui mode and (graphical) objects in loaded patchers - are the tcl/tk commands still generated (and simply not sent over the socket) or is this gui stuff omitted on a lower level (in order not to waste cpu)? 6) have there been any attempts or progress in terms of runtime-configurable audio settings (driver model, device id, sample rate, buffer sizes)? 7) has anyone tried to compile PD with CodeWarrior? thank you for any pointers, best greetings, Thomas

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command line question
by Alex from Idoia 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Hello, I am on Mac OSX and I have been using the terminal for a couple of months now as it is the only way to get pd to work. At the beginning I had some difficulties to install it and I have simply downloaded the package version of pd+tk of Adma Lindsay which installed everything for me. Now, I have a bit more knowledge of terminal commands and as I have downloaded some externals from pure-data.org, I wanted to try again to install them myself. I get stuck to the particular commands where I have to type make clean then make and finally make install. My terminal tells me 'command not found'. In any hope of discovering something by myself, I noticed the Makefile file in some external' s directories and try to type ./Makefile then I got the answer Permission denied(as superuser). I understand that has more to do with OSX/Unix language and less with pd itself, however I am sure many of you can help to answer my newbie questions. Also any reference website to learn a bit more about the command line will be most appreciated. Thanks a lot

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Fw: [microsound] [ot] pd/osc emergency request
by mik 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Someone (ie aaa(a)zkrx.org) asked this on the microsound list: Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 01:55:04 +0100 From: bltzr <aaa(a)zkrx.org> To: microsound(a)hyperreal.org Subject: [microsound] [ot] pd/osc emergency request hi, sorry for being so techy + off-topic, but if anyone knows, it would be very helpfull for me.. i'm using for the first time pure-data for a very simple purpose : i want to transmit data from max to pd via OSC to output it on the serial port of the PC. then... i can't get how to 'build' the libosc.lib that seems necessary to use the osc objects. do i need some abstract (for me, at least...) visual c++ stuff? thanx in advance pb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: microsound-unsubscribe(a)hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: microsound-help(a)hyperreal.org website: http://www.microsound.org

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oss or alsa for hammerfall
by smoerk 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

what driver would you recommend for a rme hammerfall and pd? oss or alsa?

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Re: [PD] PD signal graph
by Thomas Grill 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

> Thomas, are you going to make a polyphonic instrument with real > dynamic voice (aka instance) allocation ala Csound, a super-poly~ > we all dream of? Yes, i'll try to as soon as for the next performance all scores have been written, all rehearsals have been survived and the concert evening has been extensively celebrated. (maybe there may be a one day delay until i start coding then.....) T

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pdp xv & v4l gain not available
by Rama 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

Hi all ! I´ve compiled pdp (0.7.1) and pidip (0.7.6) but now for some reason I don´t have the right inlet for the pdp_v4l and pdp_xv (gain control). I´ve tried the first realease of this packages two days after they were released and it was working there. I´ve been playing a lot with my box because (i use debian/sid) i had some things broken. Might this have something to do with pdp´s problem? I didn´t see any error messages at compile time, so I have no idea where to begin checking. I´m using pd 0.35test24. I have not migrated to pd 0.36 yet because I still have to figure out how to set up jack (first attempt failed). Maybe I´ll ask for help about it soon ;) Any help would be really appreciated! Thnx! -- Rama <rama(a)xicnet.com>

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Re: [PD-dev] Circular Line object?
by pix 27 Jan '03

27 Jan '03

hey, cool problem... it's not really a dev question tho, because you can do it within pd with some number juggling. attached is an example. it just gets every number into a form which is +/- 180 from the last known value of the line (which is run through mod so it is always 0-360). pix. On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:27:35 -0500 bbogart(a)ryerson.ca wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm working with a lot of angles in my current project (0-360degrees > where 0 is the same point as 360) > > I want to tween between one angle and another. If my initial angle is 10 > degrees, my desination angle is 270 degress. I want an object which will > take the shortest route around the circle to tween to the desination > angle. If I use "line" I have my angle go from 0-90-180-270 Clock wise > when I want it to go 10-0-270 Counter clockwise. The line object does > work, but only when the angles differ by less than 180 degrees. So the > question is how do I make a patch which tweens the angle by the > shortnest distance? > > Any help would would be appreciated. > > In case your hoping I'm not talking about a rotating object so I can't > just use a negative rotation angle. > > Thanks > Ben > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-dev mailing list > PD-dev(a)iem.kug.ac.at > http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-dev

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