Pd-list January 2003

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problems installing GEM 0.88-1 on linux...
by Marcell Mars 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

hi ppl, matju helped me a lot on irc.openprojects.net and fixed some problems on the way but still no success installing GEM on linux... i run Gentoo 1.4.rc1 linux box, and installed pd 0.35.0-r1 using gentoo package management system portage (as easy as: emerge pd :)... everything on the box is compiled against gcc 3.2, kernel is 2.4.19-xfs-r2... i couldn't install gem from tarrbals so checked out 0.88-1 from cvs.... it failed several times and i'm sorry that i didn't remember all of the changes (one or two) but remembered just the latest fix...i had to change line 61 in Pixes/pix_videoLinux.cpp to: pix_videoLinux :: pix_videoLinux(t_floatarg w, t_floatarg h) : than it went quit far away :) and it failed on: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/marcell/download/Gem/src/yuv' make[1]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. it has Makefile.in and Make.source in yuv dir... i tried with all:: making new Makefile file but still didn't work.... hope this will be helpfull to someone and would really like to install GEM at some point :) m(a)rcell.net -- m(a)rcell.net +385.91.MARCELL

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midi latency
by Johannes Taelman 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Hi all, On win2k I observed 25 ms latency over a midi loopback with about 2.5 ms jitter on average. Is there a way to reduce the midi latency? Where is the bottleneck? Is it better on linux? I also observed that my hammerfall dsp midi interface does 25ms while my midiman usb midisport 4x4 needs 30ms. regards, j#|@ here's a test patch (midilatency.pd): #N canvas 291 416 644 359 12; #X obj 9 43 tgl 15 0 empty empty test 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 113 174 timer; #X obj 97 123 ctlin 1; #X floatatom 92 34 5 0 0 1 midi_port_number - -; #X obj 92 77 + 1; #X obj 92 54 * 16; #X floatatom 113 196 5 0 0 1 latency - -; #X floatatom 113 237 5 0 0 1 average_latency - -; #X msg 9 152 0; #X obj 113 215 average 100; #X obj 9 122 metro 100; #X text 5 8 measure the midi latency with a loopback cable; #X obj 9 174 ctlout 1 1; #X obj 148 149 select 1; #X obj 94 258 -; #X obj 94 282 abs; #X floatatom 94 326 5 0 0 1 average_jitter - -; #X obj 94 304 average 100; #X msg 45 91 50; #X text 238 60 hammerfall dsp \, win2k \, ASIO -> 25 ms; #X text 239 76 midisport 4x4 \, win2k \, ASIO -> 30.5 ms; #X connect 0 0 10 0; #X connect 1 0 6 0; #X connect 2 1 13 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 12 2; #X connect 4 0 13 1; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 9 0; #X connect 6 0 14 0; #X connect 7 0 14 1; #X connect 8 0 12 0; #X connect 9 0 7 0; #X connect 10 0 1 0; #X connect 10 0 8 0; #X connect 13 0 1 1; #X connect 14 0 15 0; #X connect 15 0 17 0; #X connect 17 0 16 0; #X connect 18 0 10 1;

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Re: [PD] Dynamic receive
by David McCallum 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

That's a really intriguing workaround... using the gui objects only as send/receives... At 04:56 PM 06/01/2003 +0100, m. wrote: >at least the "newer" gui objects (nbx, tgl, bng, sliders, radio) offers >you to set the receice and send symbold via messages: > >receive foo; >send bar; > >m. . . David McCallum . Music wants to be free . http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/ .

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Re: [PD] Dynamic receive
by David McCallum 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Thanks for the tips, CK. Two questions, why is reentrant discouraged, and what problems might r13 have? It sounds like r13 might do what I need, but from what I gather from the list archives there aren't any recent windows binaries, so I may just be out of luck and have to use internal messages to do the job. Eek... Kjetil, I imagine that would work, except I'm using windows and don't have the knowledge/tools to do my own compilation. :-/ David At 02:53 AM 06/01/2003 +0100, you wrote: >1) there is a patch for pd that adds set msgs for send and receive > but it's use is discouraged, search the archive for 'reentrant ' > >2) d13bs ext13 have [s13] and [r13] objects IIRC but they might suffer > from the same problems > >3) dynamically create a [r whatever] object and connect it via msgs to > the canvas (look for 'self modifying patches' , 'pd internal messages' > for docs . . David McCallum . Music wants to be free . http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/ .

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Dynamic receive
by David McCallum 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Is there any way to do a dynamic receive in Pd? Like some equivalent to ";" messages? David . . David McCallum . Music wants to be free . http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/ .

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Re: [PD] Dynamic receive
by CK 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

thanks greg, I read: > The "forward" object in the Cyclone might do the trick for you. It's > identical to the Max object of the same name. slapping my forehead, I knew there was sth. like that around, it was definitely too late last night ;) regards, x -- chris(a)lo-res.org Postmodernism is german romanticism with better http://pilot.fm/ special effects. (Jeff Keuss / via ctheory.com)

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chaos / freeverb problem
by Tim Blechmann 05 Jan '03

05 Jan '03

i've got a problem loading these two externals: /audio/pd/externs/freeverb: can't load library \audio\pd\externs\chaos.dll: couldn't load /audio/pd/externs/chaos: can't load library and i am recieving a message box that chaos.dll is no valid windows file i am running pd 0.35 on a windows xp sp1 machine and a sb live with kX audio driver. i am using freeverb version 0.2c and the chaos external from the cvs external repository. does anyone have an idea why these externals won't load? Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.net ICQ: 96771783 http://www.nyds-exp-discogs.tk -- The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!" Jack Kerouac

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-mididev bug
by Thomas Grill 04 Jan '03

04 Jan '03

Hi, i encountered a bug using the -midiindev flag The command line pd -asio -audiodev 1 -inchannels 8 -outchannels 8 -r 44100 -midiindev 1 crashes pd, while reordering the arguments to pd -midiindev 1 -asio -audiodev 1 -inchannels 8 -outchannels 8 -r 44100 does not. Is this a known issue? greetings, Thomas

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loading vasp.pd_linux
by Michael Iber 04 Jan '03

04 Jan '03

Hello, I compiled flext4.1.1 nad vasp0.1.1 successfully. When loading the library at pd (0.36-0, g++3.2, kernel 2.4.19) startup I get the following error: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/vasp/vasp.pd_linux: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/vasp/vasp.pd_linux: undefined symbol: _ZTI10fflext_base /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/vasp/vasp: can't load library what is wrong? thanks, Michael Michael Iber http://www.iberspace.de mailto://mail@iber-online.de

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Re: [PD-ot] MIDI not working
by André Schmidt 04 Jan '03

04 Jan '03

hi roman, [commandline] 1. click "start" on the windows task bar and select "ausführen" (i assume you got german windows) 2. type "cmd" (stands for commandline) and click ok 3. now there comes a "dos prompt" window and there you can use the commanline options of PD 4. navigate to the PD/BIN directory (where "pd.exe" is) 5. type "pd -?" to see all commanline options of PD 6. and then use like "pd -mididev 1 -noaudio" etc... another way for starting PD (batch files) 1. create a file named "start-pd.bat" in PD/BIN folder (the name of the file is not important, but the extension ".BAT" is VERY important!) 2. edit the .BAT file with notepad or any other ascii text editor 3. then type the commands you want to use in that file. in first example: "pd.exe -mididev 1 -noaudio" 4. save the file and now you can start pd on doubleclicking that .bat file if you need more newbie help, feel free to mail me personally... for you midi problem cant help much, while i never had one :) cheers -andre At 23:44 03/01/2003 +0100, you wrote: >hi > >i can't use midi with pd (IN and OUT). >Error message:"midiInOpen: MMSYSTEM002 Eine der verwendeten Geräte-IDs >liegt ausserhalb des zulässigen Bereichs Ihres Systems." >I have a M-Audio Audiphile 2496 Soundcard. >Is that a known problem? > >How can I change the the audio-buffersize? Do I have to type something >into the commandline? >Where is the commandline? > >Thanks for helping > >Roman > > > >Gesendet von ><http://de.yahoo.com/mail_de/tagline/?http://mail.yahoo.de>http://mail.yahoo.de. >Weihnachts-Einkäufe ohne Stress! ><http://de.yahoo.com/mail_de/tagline/?http://de.shopping.yahoo.com>http://shopping.yahoo.de. >

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