Pd-list October 2002

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Help with MIDI communication under Windows 2000
by Martin Dupras 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Hi, I need to send MIDI data from a sensor-capture controller box (the MIT Handyboard), which is already connected to my PC on serial port 1. Under Irix, that used to be very simple; I would simply tell the computer that there was a MIDI device on serial port 1 and PD would read that. No such luck with Win32. Short of buying an external MIDI interface, is there a way to trick the PC into thinking that there is a MIDI interface on a serial port, and just read from that? I can imagine a more common scenario where one would connect two PCs together via the serial port, and trick both machine into thinking there are MIDI interfaces between them. I would have thought that otherwise I could use the 'serial' object, but that only seems to handle output, not input Any advice? Thanks! - martin

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bugreport: $0- in subpatch names
by David McCallum 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

I'm using the latest Pd release (the P4 optimised version) on WinXP. If you have a $0- in a subpatch name and change the subpatch name after the fact, the subpatch's name (in the titlebar) appears blank. This also prevents any messages being sent to that subpatch by name (like "; pd-$0-subpatch vis 1"). It does reinitialise itself if you close/re-open the patch. Here's a little example of it not working: #N canvas 511 110 397 315 10; #X obj 60 61 f \$0; #X obj 29 110 pack f s; #X obj 29 19 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X msg 29 133 \; \$2 vis \$1; #X obj 62 39 loadbang; #X text 38 187 Try the toggle. Then change the subpatch name and try the toggle.; #X text 36 220 Don't forget to change the makefilename argument to match your changed subpatch name. (not that it's going to work any better); #N canvas 86 281 387 85 Pd 0; #X text 129 14 Look at my titlebar!; #X text 93 42 Change my name, the makefilename argument and then try the toggle.; #X restore 260 80 pd \$0-subpatch; #X obj 60 81 makefilename pd-%d-subpatch; #X text 56 284 David McCallum \, 8dngm(a)qlink.queensu.ca; #X connect 0 0 8 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X connect 8 0 1 1; . . David McCallum . Music wants to be free . http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/ .

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Re: [PD] dynamic etern/subpatch instantiation?
by David Sabine 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Hello all, I know this original post was from a year ago...but this problem still exists in PD in Win XP (and likely other Windows versions). Has anybody discovered a sensible 'fix'? Regards, Dave Sabine. <original message> awsome, thanks for all your help everyone, i'm really impressed at how much i can do with pd. on the flip side, i can reliably crash pd on my win2k machine here by clicking a few times on the open message box so that i have a few duplicate x.pd windows open, then hitting the close message box. is this a known issue? here are my two patches: test.pd: #N canvas 453 249 452 302 10; #X msg 43 82 \; pd-x.pd menuclose; #X msg 45 35 \; pd open x.pd c:/pd/joschi/; x.pd: #N canvas 0 0 454 304 12; #X obj 115 100 foobar; -Josh On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Miller Puckette wrote: > An easier way than self-modifying patches migth be to open a top-level > patch by message passing. For instance if you have a patch, /tmp/x.pd, here's > a patch to open and close it: > > #N canvas 453 249 450 300 10; > #X msg 43 82 \; pd-x.pd menuclose; > #X msg 45 35 \; pd open x.pd /tmp; > > cheers > Miller </original message>

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Reminder: Call for participation in a pd-survey
by Andrea Mayr 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

Dear PD'lers, on October 8, I posted to the pd-list und pd-dev list a call for participation in an online survey concerning the dynamics of software development within the PD community. For background on the survey, please check my original message (http://www.iem.at/mailinglists/pd-list/2002-October/000840.html). By now, already thirty people have filled out the form. This is a very good response rate, thanks a lot to all of those who took the time. Of course, some more replies would be even better :). So if you have thought about participating but haven't done it yet, please do so now. It won't take more than a few minutes. Survey: http://oss.zsi.at login: pdsurvey pw: ppddpdpp I will leave the survey online for another three days, afterwards I will take it down. Once I have the survey results available, I will post an short announcment, so that you can see that your time was well invested, I hope :). If you have any questions regarding this survey, the research project that it is a part of, or anything else, don't hestitate to write me. grtz. Andrea

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6 channel out w/ emagic 2|6 on w2k
by sofa king 25 Oct '02

25 Oct '02

greetings and disclaimer! i'm new to the list. searched the archives and found a little discussion about asio a while back and short discussion about emagic and osx but nothing on my particular problem. i apologize if it's been covered recently. ----------------- i have two w2k pcs. one laptop(compaq presario 300mhz p3) and one desktop(dell 800mhz p3). same problem on both. i have successfully gotten 2 channel audio out of the emagic but not 6. i have tried lots of command line permutations c:\pd -asio -nomidi -audiooutdev 2 -outchannels 6 smaller and larger versions of that line in many permutations. most work with 2 channels on the emagic no problem but i've yet to get sound from channels 3-6.i generally use the test patch from the help menu but have tried homegrown ones as well with no luck... any tips? thanks, dan ===== ATat ArtsandTechnologyattech http://web.mit.edu/at/www :: the appliance of s.c.i..e...n.....c........e :: saturdays @ the cellar : 991 mass ave : cambridge : http://unlockedgroove.com http://www.tekfumusic.com telephone: 617-253-2475 ext109 http://adhesiverecords.net haiku - i heard. ice melted. | can it be? oh, could it be? | i am, hoof hearted. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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how to debug?
by Smoerk 24 Oct '02

24 Oct '02

hello, my pd (0.35 / linux) crashes or freezes sometimes. Propably it is one of the externals I compiled, but I cannot figure out which one. Is there some possibility to compile pd and the externals with debug options or get traceback or some message why it crashes? Now I can just guess which external it is and then I could write the author "I believe your external is maybe responsible for crashing my pd, but I'm not sure and I cannot give you any traces". ;)

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running 2 seperate PD's
by august 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

heyall, dunno if this has be aksed already...but is it possible to run two seperate PD's on the same machine. i can do this: "pd patch1.pd patch2.pd" and it will do both patches. but, my problem is i'd like to have one running all of the time (on a server) and the other just part of the time. i try this: on one shell "pd patch1.pd" and on another "pd patch2.pd" but fail with pd timeout soundcard is sblive and should be able to open /dev/dsp 32 times seperately and parallel. any hints? - august.

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still having trouble
by Darkback2＠aol.com 23 Oct '02

23 Oct '02

Hey All, I'm still having trouble. I would like to run PD on my computer. Its a Titanium Power Book G4. I've tried two different tacks. First I have Windows XP running in Virtual PC. I get the error. "audio IO stuck......closing audio" If I use the flag "-noadc" then I don't get the error, but I need to be able to put sound in. OSX I installed Tck/tk and with the help of Ben have managed to get to the point where I can switch to the directory that contains PD. but when I type "./pd" the computer responds with a no such file name error. Is there some way that you can end up not being able to run applications in tck/tk? Perhaps I did something wrong with the instillation. If I could fix either of these problems, then I would be happy...Until then...sad. Che

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Mac OSX ease-of-use launch utility [slight OT]
by Adam T. Lindsay 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

PD-Mac folks, Some of you might be interested in launching PD files from the finder. Although it's not quite as easy as a double-click, I recently found a contextual menu plugin that is fairly usable (and configurable). OnMyCommand, with its companion OCMEdit is a nice bit of freeware to allow this: <http://free.abracode.com/cmworkshop/on_my_command.html> It should be easy enough to understand, but if you have any questions, I'd be happy to field them off-list. best, adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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OS X ports of UNAUTHORIZED externals
by V93r 22 Oct '02

22 Oct '02

hello list, i was looking for the OS X ports of ydegoyon(a)free.fr's externals. michael a.thompsons site at .mac is offline, propably because that service is not free anymore. is there an alternative download location? or does mthomp need new webspace for that? best, gert

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