Pd-list May 2001

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gem on linux
by ludwig zeininger 08 May '01

08 May '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi forget about what i wrote about low cpu usage in spite of the opengl do not continue warning. pd stays at around 10% no matter what i do, but X of course, eats the rest... and got rtx running. AMAZING!!! (IOhannes: we must definitely do that workshop, remember?) lu - -- >> http://lu.mur.at/lu.pub.key.html << -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine iD8DBQE698i0ea0RHHXBzw0RAjJpAKCBV0cD2KlLiSl390GZrb2ZauNr/ACgnaLj cpRW7a7WbQ4BaDb+szLGO3s= =g/yA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Hello!
by Josh Steiner 07 May '01

07 May '01

Hello everyone, I've been using PD a little bit for a couple months now and wanted to introduce myself. I write many different flavours of music, from Drum'n'bass, to "IDM" to house music. I've used mostly sequencers like Cakewalk, logic and fruity loops and now am starting to learn to use PD. My buddy showed me what he could do on his mac laptop with MAX, Reaktor and supercollider and i got so jealous :) I am also a programmer and I would really like to start contributing heavily to the development of PD, mostly in helping to bring its GUI up to par with Reaktor and Max. Currently I'm doing some work on the GUI of terminatorx.cx, which is a really cool project too. I've looked a little bit at jMax, and was trying to decide weather or not i should put my efforts there or PD, but I pretty much decided that PD was the better choice as it currently runs on multiple platforms, something that i find very important. What I'd like to do right now is outline some of my thoughts on PD and my plans on helping out with the hopes that some of you will give me some reaction. I'd like to know mostly if I am stepping on anyones toes or duplicating effort. First off, I have to say that PD is wonderful and so much fun to use. It's really opened up my eyes to tons of new possibilties. Now how does PD differ from its cousines (Max, jMax, Reaktor...)? My broad impression is that it has just as much potential, and with a little love it will easily meet that potential. In my opinion it needs some love in its UI and it's "packaging" mostly. There are some great sub projects going on that I've looked into a little bit, like IEMLib, GGEE, and PD-Lib that I think are the most crucial right now to make PD more friendly to new users wanting to migrate from the commercial cousines. I think that probably one of the most valuable things I could contribute to right now is the pd-lib project, as there is a huge community of sharing Max patches out there. Is anyone here a participant in that project? I think that one valuable contribution to that by someone who is not a coder and who has access to Max/MSP is for them to spec the unimplemented Max externals functionality to make it easier for people like me (ie, with no mac) to add them to PD-Lib. Is there something like this going on already? The next thing that I think needs done is an updated GUI. Silly as it is to me, the fact is that lots and lots of musicians get instantly turned off by the "old-skool" nature of PD's gui. It's kind of sad, but many people can't get beyond that to see that, though a little uglier, PD is easily functionally competitive, and that is the real important fact. I heard a little bit about a project to make a new GTK+ gui, but it seems to me that it is a dead project. I could not find the authors email address to ask him about it. I persoanally think that this is a great idea, as the GTK toolkit is a very user friendly, slick and actively developed. It's also rapidly getting to be quite cross-platform. The next version 2.0 will come with automatic win32 and unix support. That is in good fitting with the rest of the PD core. Other alternative as wxWindows and VDK which both adopt the native widgets of the platform they run on, which makes it feel very natural for the user, which might give them an edge over raw gtk. AbiWord uses wxWindows, which leads me to think that it is a good choice as AbiWord runs very well on linux as well as windows. http://www.guest.net/homepages/mmotta/VDKHome/vdkbuilder.html http://www.wxwindows.org/ Please give me some feedback, I'd really like to devote a lot of my time into advancing PD and would like to figure out how to best spend my time. Thanks, Josh PS. If any of you are intersted in my music, I always loev feedback :) MY two projects right now are: mp3.com/bluevitriol mp3.com/portreplicator _______________________________________________________________________ Josh "Yoshi" Steiner - josh(a)xiphoidprocess.com - http://eds.org/~joschi Xiphoid Process Records - http://xiphoidprocess.com San Francisco based electronic music.

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RE: [PD] gem blocks tablet - problem solved!
by Mark Danks 07 May '01

07 May '01

Aah!! Sorry I thought you understood how it works. gemtablet was originally created for an installation that an artist had and they didn't want the user to be able to interact with the computer as though the tablet is a mouse. Because of this, I lock the tablet to just work in the gem window itself. That is a good idea to expand the functionality to have an option to just behave like a normal mouse. Later, Mark ============================ = mdanks(a)stormfront.com = Lead Programmer PS2 = http://www.danks.org/mark ============================ > -----Original Message----- > From: Olaf Matthes [mailto:olaf.matthes@gmx.de] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:07 PM > To: Mark Danks; pd-list > Subject: Re: [PD] gem blocks tablet - problem solved! > > > Hi Mark and list, > > I just solved my problem: it is not possible to move the > arrow on the screen > after I've started pd/gem but 'gemtablet' receives all data > correctly... the > frozen arrow just irritated me! - Maybe it's possible to > change that in a future > release (if it's not a problem with my tablet only)? > > Thanks > > Olaf >

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computer music concert in Baltimore
by Joseph A. Sarlo 07 May '01

07 May '01

For anyone that has nothing better to do on Tuesday night and is near Baltimore: On May 8th, 8:00 PM, Peabody Conservatory (1 East Mount Vernon Place, Baltimore, MD) Griswold hall, there will be a computer music concert featuring some works (at least my 2 pieces) using PD, one for string quartet and computer and one for joystick. It should be entertaining. -- __________________________ | | Joseph A. Sarlo | Computer Music Dept. | Peabody Conservatory | Johns Hopkins University | | jsarlo(a)peabody.jhu.edu |__________________________

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pix_movie
by Linium 06 May '01

06 May '01

Hello, What amount of fps can we get with pix_movie with a 500 mhz computer at 320*256, and ... let say 640*512 ? It is just to have an idea. I have a voodoo2 and I know that this card cannot display too big texture (I don't remember if it is 256*256 or less), does pix_movie will be able to display movies with resolution higher than this maximum texture size ? Best regards, Linium

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.pdrc -lib -path limits ?
by CK 05 May '01

05 May '01

hi, I guess most of yo noticed that pd crashes on startup if you try to put more than 3 -lib or -path directives in your ~/.pdrc , I didn't yet look into it too much but it's not as trivial to fix as I thought at first, any one more familiar with the issue willing to give it a go ? regards x -- chris(a)lo-res.org We put the 'fun' in http://pilot.fm/ fundamentalist !!!

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Re: [PD] pd under Windows 98 ?
by nullpointer 04 May '01

04 May '01

I run on win 95/98 and ME It's pretty stable.. I occasionally get errors where the cursor won't switch into/out of edit mode and basically the keyboard input is lost, but closing the patch and reopening it seems to solve this.. (if anyone knows why this happens or how to avoid?). You just have to be careful to get rif of as many background tasks as possible . p.s. does anyone know how to disable tooltips, I mean I know what the close window button does by now...:) Tom ________________________________________________________ C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT C:\REM [Header] C:\> C:\>PATH=C:\PERL\BIN;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;\C:jdk1.2.2\bin ________________________________________________________ http://www.nullpointer.co.uk (all suffixes enabled) -----Original Message----- From: Josh Steiner <joschi(a)eds.org> To: J ! J ! <jj(a)wanadoo.fr> Cc: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> Date: 02 May 2001 19:08 Subject: Re: [PD] pd under Windows 98 ? >yes it is. i do it everyday. :) > >> hello everybody, >> >> I just wanted to know if it was possible to run PD under windows 98 ???? >> >> >> Best salutations >> >> jj(a)wanadoo.fr >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________________________________ >Josh "Yoshi" Steiner - josh(a)xiphoidprocess.com - http://eds.org/~joschi > >Xiphoid Process Records - http://xiphoidprocess.com >San Francisco based electronic music. > > >

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Re: Puredataorg...
by jfm3 04 May '01

04 May '01

On Fri, 4 May 2001, serge wrote: > First of all thank you for managing of this wonderful website - it > helped me a lot. > But one thing i wonder, is you don't write anything about using PD on > windoze. > I'm using PD mostly on windows, and having a lack of information > concerning this. > Got Linux as well, but a lot of soundcards are just not supported bythis > wonderful in all other sides OS. > Thank you again for managing of this site. > Khanukaev Sergey, komposer, audio designer. I have received more than one request of this type. I have given the issue a lot of thought. I am only personally interested in Pd as it runs on Linux. I post source code that contains precompiled binaries on www.pure-data.org. Most, but not all of those who contribute objects to Pd follow Miller's lead and post a tarball of both source with Linux binaries and another of source with Windows binaries. On www.pure-data.org, I post only the source-with-Linux-binaries tarballs. This is especially problematic for Windows users, since they usually don't have access to a C compiler and so can't make any use at all of the source-with-Linux-binaries tarballs. I decided not to include the Windows distributions anyway, for the following reasons. 1) I am a very public Open Source advocate. This advocacy is part of my profession and livelyhood. If I were to post Windows software on a web site that I run, it would raise very many eyebrows and have a significant negative impact on my career. 2) More than enough information on how to get the windows versions of the software is provided on www.pure-data.org. I just don't serve the files myself. In most cases, I envision users going to the actual site from which the software originates to make their downloads, since they are more likely to find the very latest versions there. 3) Pd runs much better under Linux. Once you install the ALSA drivers for your sound card and put the low latency patches for Linux on, you have a DAW with unmatched powers. (jfm3)

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RE: [PD] a long shot..
by Mark Danks 04 May '01

04 May '01

In theory, you could use the ortho object and just render squares which are 1,1. Let me know if this doesn't make sense. Later, Mark ============================ = mdanks(a)stormfront.com = Lead Programmer PS2 = http://www.danks.org/mark ============================ > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Fells [mailto:nick@music.gla.ac.uk] > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:21 AM > To: pd-list > Subject: [PD] a long shot.. > > > Hi, > > Sorry for the dumbness of this question. Has anyone produced a simple > GEM object for plotting a pixel (rather than rendering an object or > particles)? > > I'm after NT compiled externs just now. Any help appreciated. > > Nick > > > -- > Dr Nick Fells, > Music Department, > University of Glasgow, Tel: +44 (0) 141-330 4096 > Glasgow G12 8QQ Fax: +44 (0) 141-330 3518 > UK. http://www.music.gla.ac.uk/~nick >

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[gem] libttf
by Johannes M Zmoelnig 04 May '01

04 May '01

using debian you will either find packages freetype2 + freetype2-dev, or (at least if you are running woody) libttf2 + libttf-dev of course you will need the developer's package to compile gem mfg.fsd.sdf IOhannes

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